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"High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case.."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/22/justice/pennsylvania-priest-abuse-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2012, 03:27:24 PM »
"High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case.."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/22/justice/pennsylvania-priest-abuse-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
This is news, let alone Christian news?
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2012, 03:53:13 PM »
When he goes to prison, I pray that he receives mercy... after he's brutally gang-raped.  And you better believe, by God, that I DO mean that.  These children deserve so much better than what they where subjected to.  They put their trust in their adult caretakers and when the person who allowed their innocence to be ripped away, only to have that hang over them for the rest of their lives?  As Gen. Patton would say, "May God have mercy on them because I won't!" 
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2012, 05:13:40 PM »
When he goes to prison, I pray that he receives mercy... after he's brutally gang-raped.  And you better believe, by God, that I DO mean that.
What's truly sad is that you, who claim to be an Orthodox Christian, would wish such brutality upon anyone. :'(
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2012, 07:23:30 PM »
When he goes to prison, I pray that he receives mercy... after he's brutally gang-raped.  And you better believe, by God, that I DO mean that.
What's truly sad is that you, who claim to be an Orthodox Christian, would wish such brutality upon anyone. :'(
Well get out the tissues, sport, because I still think this *$$hole deserves it.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 07:25:27 PM »
When he goes to prison, I pray that he receives mercy... after he's brutally gang-raped.  And you better believe, by God, that I DO mean that.
What's truly sad is that you, who claim to be an Orthodox Christian, would wish such brutality upon anyone. :'(
Well get out the tissues, sport, because I still think this *$$hole deserves it.

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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 07:29:51 PM »
I think it's easy for Gabriel to speak that way because he has never been gang-raped himself.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 07:44:21 PM »
It's easy for me to think that way because I've been very close to a child-abuse case.  The victim was a little boy who trusted those in charge of him.  He will never be the same again.  I realize my views are counter-Christian.  I'm not perfect and I accept that.  But when you see the tears of a child who was sexually abused by a monster you might change your mind.  And if it ever happened to my nieces or nephew, well sorry, but this is where me and Jesus part ways.   
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2012, 07:50:25 PM »
It's easy for me to think that way because I've been very close to a child-abuse case.  The victim was a little boy who trusted those in charge of him.  He will never be the same again.  I realize my views are counter-Christian.  I'm not perfect and I accept that.  But when you see the tears of a child who was sexually abused by a monster you might change your mind.  And if it ever happened to my nieces or nephew, well sorry, but this is where me and Jesus part ways.  
I don't think of this as something I would boast about.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 07:58:53 PM »
I feel your pain and wrath Gabriel but I don't think that's the solution.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2012, 12:33:35 AM »
I feel your pain and wrath Gabriel but I don't think that's the solution.

I appreciate honesty more than pious platitudes. 

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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2012, 12:35:11 AM »
I feel your pain and wrath Gabriel but I don't think that's the solution.

I appreciate honesty more than pious platitudes. 
He wasn't being honest?
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2012, 01:01:56 AM »
He was and I respect honestly.  I wish more people would be honest on this forum rather than retreat behind pious platitudes. 

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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2012, 01:07:12 AM »
He was and I respect honestly.  I wish more people would be honest on this forum rather than retreat behind pious platitudes. 
Save a few, I think most people are generally honest here.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2012, 02:00:00 AM »
He was and I respect honestly.  I wish more people would be honest on this forum rather than retreat behind pious platitudes. 
Save a few, I think most people are generally honest here.

Then you don't know enough of the truth.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2012, 02:01:12 AM »
He was and I respect honestly.  I wish more people would be honest on this forum rather than retreat behind pious platitudes. 

alot of us could be honest about alot of things, but we should probably keep alot of them to ourselves.

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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2012, 02:05:37 AM »
He was and I respect honestly.  I wish more people would be honest on this forum rather than retreat behind pious platitudes.  

alot of us could be honest about alot of things, but we should probably keep alot of them to ourselves.

Or at least not be act duplicately or lie. That would be helpful.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2012, 10:09:57 AM »
Absolutely! Let's hope that others will do the devil's bidding because he did something wrong. Makes perfect sense.

I remember that part in Ezekiel where God wanted the exact same type of thing to happen...oh, wait. That's not what it says, at all.

He hasn't done anything worse than I have. He just did different things.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2012, 03:24:22 PM »
He was and I respect honestly.  I wish more people would be honest on this forum rather than retreat behind pious platitudes.  

alot of us could be honest about alot of things, but we should probably keep alot of them to ourselves.

Or at least not be act duplicately or lie. That would be helpful.

Yipes, this is what happens when exhausted and talking while posting and making a correction to avoid moderation.

Should be:

Or at least not act duceptively or lie. That would be helpful.

If this post were cryptic, I don't blame you.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2012, 02:16:22 PM »
"PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The first U.S. church official convicted of covering up sex-abuse claims against Roman Catholic priests was sentenced Tuesday.."
http://news.yahoo.com/pa-monsignor-gets-3-6-years-sex-abuse-154117156.html
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 02:41:12 PM »
He was and I respect honestly.  I wish more people would be honest on this forum rather than retreat behind pious platitudes. 

alot of us could be honest about alot of things, but we should probably keep alot of them to ourselves.
Yes, our "honest" thoughts in a matter of minutes can range from the very impious to very devout repentant prayers. It is best to put aside all logismoi and all negative angry thoughts, repent, and then strive toward theosis, but this takes work and many prayers.

I am praying for this monsignor, that he may repent. Lord have mercy.

Think about this: this monsignor who probably has lived a soft life, may not be prepared for what lies ahead in prison. Gang-raping him could destroy what spirituality/faith he has left.
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Re: High-ranking priest guilty on one count in child sex abuse case..
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2012, 02:54:45 PM »
"PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The first U.S. church official convicted of covering up sex-abuse claims against Roman Catholic priests was sentenced Tuesday.."
http://news.yahoo.com/pa-monsignor-gets-3-6-years-sex-abuse-154117156.html

From that news article linked above:
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Lynn, who handled priest assignments and child sexual assault complaints from 1992 to 2004, was convicted last month of felony child endangerment for his oversight of now-defrocked priest Edward Avery. Avery is serving a 2½- to five-year sentence for sexually assaulting an altar boy in church in 1999.

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Lynn's lawyers had sought probation, arguing that few Pennsylvanians serve long prison terms for child endangerment and their client shouldn't serve more time than abusers like Avery. They plan to appeal the landmark conviction and seek bail while the lengthy appeals process unfolds.

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Defense lawyers have long argued that the state's child endangerment statute, revised in 2007 to include those who supervise abusers, should not apply to Lynn since he left office in 2004. They also insist he did more than anyone at the archdiocese to meet with victims, get pedophile priests into treatment and send recommendations to the cardinal.

Lynn got 3 to 6 years, whereas the monster child abuser Avery only received a sentence of 2.5 to 5 years. Since Lynn was convicted under a 2007 law (leaving office in 2004), I think that this conviction should be overturned especially since Lynn has apparently accepted responsibility and has apologized.
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