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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 01:04:23 AM »
Yipes.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 01:14:03 AM »
I was so hoping this was about the Augustin in Chicago...
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 01:43:33 AM »
I've always imagined St. Augustine to be black...

Aside from that, I think this looks really interesting. I would definitely see it.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 02:48:46 AM »
I can't wait to see it :D St. Augustine is the best saint ever!

EDIT: I don't like the way they've portrayed St. Monica; she does not look or seem to act as humble and meek as she is known to be. Also, I concede on my previous point; St. Monica is actually the greatest saint ever.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2012, 02:51:05 AM »
I can't wait to see it :D St. Augustine is the best saint ever!

Same for me !  ;D

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2012, 07:44:01 AM »
"It is impossible that the son of so many tears should perish."  8)

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2012, 08:43:51 AM »
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2012, 09:41:15 AM »
I can't wait to see it :D St. Augustine is the best saint ever!

EDIT: I don't like the way they've portrayed St. Monica; she does not look or seem to act as humble and meek as she is known to be. Also, I concede on my previous point; St. Monica is actually the greatest saint ever.

Where do you get this idea that St. Monica is portrayed in such a way?  She has one line in the trailer and the only other time we see her is when she's embracing her son at the end.

This certainly looks worthwhile.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2012, 09:57:50 AM »
it looks very well done, certainly a timely story.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2012, 01:22:02 PM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

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Horrible.

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2012, 01:35:21 PM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

Etc.

Reasons?

I think it was a good trailer.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2012, 02:14:51 PM »
This movie looks amazing. I know what movie I'll campaign to see  8)
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2012, 02:15:36 PM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

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Why? I really have no understanding of how one could not get excited for this movie.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2012, 02:25:30 PM »
I wonder if it will have the part where he stole fruit from poor people and threw it to pigs   ;)
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2012, 05:09:13 AM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

Etc.

It's gonna be a cinemastic masterpiece and you know it!
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2012, 07:30:08 AM »
It is going to be really, really bad.  Is there any hope that it might be so bad that it is hilarious?

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2012, 04:28:08 PM »
Soon  ;)

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2012, 05:03:41 PM »
First- The trailer looks silly.  I wasn't aware that North Africans/Meditteranean folks were so white. 

Second- Why do the Latins pronounce his name as Uh-GUHS-tin instead of AH-goo-steen?

Third-  Blessed Augustin isn't accepted as a Saint throughout all of Eastern Orthodoxy.  Some say 'yes', some say 'no.'
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2012, 05:58:17 PM »
Cool. :)
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2012, 07:20:33 PM »
I look forward to seeing it, even though I am a bit ashamed to say that I know little about St. Augustine.  :P
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2012, 07:49:35 PM »
I look forward to seeing it, even though I am a bit ashamed to say that I know little about St. Augustine.  :P
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2012, 08:24:48 PM »
I look forward to seeing it, even though I am a bit ashamed to say that I know little about St. Augustine.  :P
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2012, 08:34:53 PM »
Augustinianism didn't become much of an issue until the Franks, but to solely focus on that rather than say his Confessions is disingenuous to say the least. The latter is one of the greatest Christian writings ever made and it's influence has hardly diminished.

But seriously I've never understood why the Orthodox Church has been so unfairly harsh towards St. Augustine. St. Jerome did alot more damage than him, yet he hardly gets a bad rap.

However then again the Orthodox Church would rather glorify saints like Nichols II and Justinian so...
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2012, 08:48:40 PM »
But seriously I've never understood why the Orthodox Church has been so unfairly harsh towards St. Augustine.

I come to his defense all the time...  :angel:
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2012, 08:53:58 PM »
But seriously I've never understood why the Orthodox Church has been so unfairly harsh towards St. Augustine.

I come to his defense all the time...  :angel:
I kind of leave it up to JamesR now.
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« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2012, 08:56:42 PM »
But seriously I've never understood why the Orthodox Church has been so unfairly harsh towards St. Augustine.

I come to his defense all the time...  :angel:
I kind of leave it up to JamesR now.

The next time someone really challenges on this I'm gonna redo/compile my older posts... just need the motivation  ;D
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2012, 09:41:51 PM »
I don't know much about Augustine, since I have been concentrating on the East.  Can anyone recommend a good biography, or, if I had only time to read one work by him, which one?

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2012, 09:51:02 PM »
I don't know much about Augustine, since I have been concentrating on the East.  Can anyone recommend a good biography, or, if I had only time to read one work by him, which one?

Read his Confessions and then City of God.

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2012, 09:59:56 PM »
Pretty much what Schultz said. I haven't read his On The Trinity yet, but it's on my to-do list.

Frankly City of God is very much worth reading, I enjoyed his take on Hell.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2012, 10:02:00 PM »
I look forward to seeing it, even though I am a bit ashamed to say that I know little about St. Augustine.  :P
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I don't think it's possible for me to read anymore than I already do. ;D But I thank you for the recommendation and think I'd better get a copy of Confessions. It's been on my to-read list for too long.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2012, 10:19:18 PM »
If you don't know Latin, this is the best translation currently available:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Confessions-Augustine-Translation-Century/dp/1565480848
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2012, 10:38:40 PM »
Third-  Blessed Augustin isn't accepted as a Saint throughout all of Eastern Orthodoxy.  Some say 'yes', some say 'no.'

They can choose to not accept his Sainthood all they want but the fact that an Ecumenical Council clearly stated that he is Saint would like to have a word with them. Plus, why do we blame Augustine for everything? He corrected many of the errors he made in his 'Retractions' and most of the heretical 'Augustinian' notions came not directly from St. Augustine but from Anselm's interpretation of the works of St. Augustine.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2012, 10:53:43 PM »
As a recovering alcoholic I identify with Augustine very much, whether he is a saint or not.  I'm almost happy that he's not recognized as a saint by the OC.  It makes him that much more special to me and even easier to identify with.

I also admire his mother.  Isn't she the patron saint of alcoholics?

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2012, 11:03:29 PM »
As a recovering alcoholic I identify with Augustine very much, whether he is a saint or not.  I'm almost happy that he's not recognized as a saint by the OC.  It makes him that much more special to me and even easier to identify with.

I also admire his mother.  Isn't she the patron saint of alcoholics?
Well he was considered a Father of the Church at the 5th Ecumenical Council, but the system of canonization wasn't done until later. However the Fathers in that decree are saints so if the shoe fits.
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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2012, 11:09:09 PM »
If I recall correctly, St. Augustine was actually mentioned by the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Ecumenical Councils, never in a negative way.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2012, 11:12:05 PM »
If I recall correctly, St. Augustine was actually mentioned by the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Ecumenical Councils, never in a negative way.
Further evidence of how large his influence is, and like you said in a positive manner.

Honestly it would be better to question St. Jerome, who I believe was one of the princpal people involved in the Great Schism than St. Augustine. The former thought he knew better than the Church.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2012, 11:15:08 PM »
How doctrinally sound is "City of God?"
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2012, 11:18:25 PM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

Etc.

I'm afraid I agree with you. I'll probably still watch it, but it doesn't look very well done to me. Why does every religious movie portray Africans as European? Bizarre.


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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2012, 11:19:54 PM »
Honestly it would be better to question St. Jerome,

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2012, 12:12:33 AM »
I'm assuming this will be going straight to DVD. Too bad, a good movie on a figure like Blessed Augustine would've been great.


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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2012, 12:15:43 AM »
How doctrinally sound is "City of God?"
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2012, 11:30:59 AM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

Etc.

I'm afraid I agree with you. I'll probably still watch it, but it doesn't look very well done to me. Why does every religious movie portray Africans as European? Bizarre.

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2012, 11:33:51 AM »
Blessed Augustin isn't accepted as a Saint throughout all of Eastern Orthodoxy.  Some say 'yes', some say 'no.'

To everyone who matters, it's a "yes." Can you find a "no" from before the 20th century?

Also, "Blessed" and "Saint" are synonymous. The used of the title "Blessed" to mean "not-quite-a-saint" is a Roman Catholic practice (DUN DUN DUN!).
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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2012, 11:59:26 AM »
That I didn't know of this earlier, is outrage!!!  The movie looks like something I will want to see.

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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2012, 01:30:42 PM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

Etc.

I'm afraid I agree with you. I'll probably still watch it, but it doesn't look very well done to me. Why does every religious movie portray Africans as European? Bizarre.

The Romans inhabiting North Africa were generally of European descent.
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« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2012, 01:32:43 PM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

Etc.

I'm afraid I agree with you. I'll probably still watch it, but it doesn't look very well done to me. Why does every religious movie portray Africans as European? Bizarre.

The Romans inhabiting North Africa were generally of European descent.
I think Gebre meant "Blond hair/blue eyed whites".

Most importantly, Gebre AND Gabriel agree with me for once.

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Bio-pics are usually the worst genre of film and this looks worse than most.

An absurd trailer to be sure.
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« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2012, 01:33:44 PM »
How doctrinally sound is "City of God?"

What a weird way to begin to read a text.
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« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2012, 01:44:52 PM »
Blessed Augustin isn't accepted as a Saint throughout all of Eastern Orthodoxy.  Some say 'yes', some say 'no.'

 Can you find a "no" from before the 20th century?
No, I haven't tried and probably won't as I wasn't propagating the argument but merely shedding light on the fact that he isn't considered a saint by all Eastern Orthodox.  If you took that to mean me, you should've inquired further.
 
Also, "Blessed" and "Saint" are synonymous.
In all cases?  Fr. Seraphim of Platina, who wrote a very balanced biography on Augustine used "Blessed" instead of "Saint".

The used of the title "Blessed" to mean "not-quite-a-saint" is a Roman Catholic practice (DUN DUN DUN!).
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« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2012, 01:52:13 PM »
There are a few different descriptors used... saint, venerable, blessed, protomartyr, etc. Just because someone has a title attached to their name other than "saint" that doesn't mean that they aren't a saint. Orthodoxwiki has an article titled "Apostle Stephen the Protomartyr," for example, of course not meaning to deny that he is a saint.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2012, 02:22:23 AM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

Etc.

I'm afraid I agree with you. I'll probably still watch it, but it doesn't look very well done to me. Why does every religious movie portray Africans as European? Bizarre.

The Romans inhabiting North Africa were generally of European descent.


But St. Augustine wasn't Roman.



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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2012, 03:18:13 AM »
A few things:

1. St. Augustine is commemorated, IIRC, in both the English Holy Transfiguration Monastery Menaion and in the Simonopetra Synaxarion.  Though both editions have tried to include a wide range of Orthodox saints, their editorial integrity is AFAIK as good as anything out there in the Orthodox world.  That IMO should really settle the issue. 

2. As for Northern Africans, the wikipedia page quotes genetic studies stating that the vast majority of the population of modern Tunisia - be they "Arab" or "Berber" have been found to be genetically similar.   This means that most Tunisian "Arabs" are actually culturally Arab Muslim Berbers (if you want to make such a distinction - in fact, I'd imagine similar is true throughout most the Arab world, to include the Egyptians according to wikipedia).  The Berbers have been acknowledged to be the predominant people in the area since the Greeks first wrote on the area.   

This implies to me that North Africans during Roman times were, with exceptions for traders, soldiers and their descendants, and other migrants, mostly Latin-speaking, toga wearing Berbers.  I would not expect them to look much like sub-saharan Africans.  And yes, they would have been considered Romans - in particular, Augustine was a Roman citizen who apparently felt quite at home when he moved to Rome. 

[that being said, I'd guess that availability of actors/extras vice any sort of historical inquiry is the primary factor in how the North Africans of this movie look.  And as another interesting aside, the wikipedia "research" I did for this states that examination of Egyptian Pharaoh Rameses II's mummy reveals he was a red head]
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« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2012, 05:51:54 PM »
A few things:

1. St. Augustine is commemorated, IIRC, in both the English Holy Transfiguration Monastery Menaion and in the Simonopetra Synaxarion.  Though both editions have tried to include a wide range of Orthodox saints, their editorial integrity is AFAIK as good as anything out there in the Orthodox world.  That IMO should really settle the issue. 

2. As for Northern Africans, the wikipedia page quotes genetic studies stating that the vast majority of the population of modern Tunisia - be they "Arab" or "Berber" have been found to be genetically similar.   This means that most Tunisian "Arabs" are actually culturally Arab Muslim Berbers (if you want to make such a distinction - in fact, I'd imagine similar is true throughout most the Arab world, to include the Egyptians according to wikipedia).  The Berbers have been acknowledged to be the predominant people in the area since the Greeks first wrote on the area.   

This implies to me that North Africans during Roman times were, with exceptions for traders, soldiers and their descendants, and other migrants, mostly Latin-speaking, toga wearing Berbers.  I would not expect them to look much like sub-saharan Africans.  And yes, they would have been considered Romans - in particular, Augustine was a Roman citizen who apparently felt quite at home when he moved to Rome. 

[that being said, I'd guess that availability of actors/extras vice any sort of historical inquiry is the primary factor in how the North Africans of this movie look.  And as another interesting aside, the wikipedia "research" I did for this states that examination of Egyptian Pharaoh Rameses II's mummy reveals he was a red head]

Rameses II was a ginger?!

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« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2012, 02:20:40 AM »

Rameses II was a ginger?!

Apparently so:

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Oddly enough, I know a few redheaded Egyptians.
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Re: Restless Heart: The Confessions of Augustine (movie/this fall)
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2013, 03:42:33 AM »
I watched the full thing on youtube today and I have to say, it was pretty bad...It's basically just a badly done bastardization of The Confessions that traded accuracy for entertainment value. For example, the tension between St. Augustine and his father was highly exaggerated in the film. Over all, the whole thing reeks of a classic Evangelical "born again experience" bend. It's a good tear jerker, but really, nothing else. You're better off just reading the book.
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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2013, 11:34:56 AM »
youtube trailer here:
http://youtu.be/yAWJFbUYT_w


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« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2015, 01:46:06 PM »
Wow $22 for the DVD, no bluray and no vod version? this will not do...
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« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2015, 02:49:29 PM »
I watched the full thing on youtube today and I have to say, it was pretty bad...It's basically just a badly done bastardization of The Confessions that traded accuracy for entertainment value. For example, the tension between St. Augustine and his father was highly exaggerated in the film. Over all, the whole thing reeks of a classic Evangelical "born again experience" bend. It's a good tear jerker, but really, nothing else. You're better off just reading the book.

your breaking my heart, it's that bad? I dread to see it then, anybody hear about the Dante Inferno movie coming out?

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« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2015, 03:03:18 PM »
In case, I wasn't clear above.

This looks terrible.

Awful.

Horrible.

Etc.

I'm afraid I agree with you. I'll probably still watch it, but it doesn't look very well done to me. Why does every religious movie portray Africans as European? Bizarre.

The Romans inhabiting North Africa were generally of European descent.


But St. Augustine wasn't Roman.



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« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PM »
There used to be some good short films on the lives of the saints. I ordered some tapes from Greece once. They were old films, so not in the best condition, but for short dramas they were entertaining. It's too expensive to get the shipping from eBay nowadays, and I don't have a working VCR anymore, but who knows. I think the lives of many saints make for interesting stories. Maybe there will be more such movies in the future.
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« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2015, 04:20:43 PM »
I found it to be an excellent movie.

No, it's not a substitute for his works or even for a more educated biography. And I don't think it's meant to be that.

It's a movie, that will entertain people with a healthy topic adding some tweets of St. Augustine wisdom in the middle. Much better than watching things like actual soap operas or "drama" movies.

Let me put in perspective. I remember reading once that around 15-20% of the people in Nasa were there because of Start Trek alone. That's an awful lot of people in the same place because of what is - sorry trekkers - a badly done barely (if at all) scientific sci-fi series.

These things *do* inspire some people at least to go for the real thing. And I'd rather have thousands of people with a shallow notion of St. Augustine, and a couple who start a real Christian life than hundreds of thousands of trekkers and some hundreds who become real scientists.
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« Reply #61 on: August 20, 2015, 09:13:16 PM »
The film can be viewed on youtube:

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltUxyOUN6Yo

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy7kishOwv8

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« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2015, 10:00:07 AM »
Let me put in perspective. I remember reading once that around 15-20% of the people in Nasa were there because of Start Trek alone. That's an awful lot of people in the same place because of what is - sorry trekkers - a badly done barely (if at all) scientific sci-fi series.

Star Trek has phaser fights, miniskirts, hot green chicks, and shirtless Mr. Sulu. Does Restless Heart have comparable perks?
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« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2015, 06:31:35 AM »
Well, I watched about three minutes of it and it just looked awful on every artistic level. I couldn't watch any more. And I really am interested in the story. Augustine's "Confessions" is one of my favorite books. Even though I have serious problems with some of his theology, St. Augustine's life deserves to be made into a quality film. But alas, this one wasn't it.


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