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Offline Justin Kissel

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Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« on: June 14, 2012, 09:09:52 PM »
In Mumbai, a Campaign Against Restroom Injustice

Men and women here in India's largest city, a congested, humanity-soaked metropolis of roughly 20 million residents, would seem bound by at least one common misery: far too many people sharing far too few toilets.
 
But there is a difference -- unlike men, women often have to pay to urinate. So for months, social advocates like Minu Gandhi have canvassed the city, arguing that this disparity amounts to blatant discrimination and asking women to start demanding a right most of them had never contemplated: the Right to Pee.
 
"We all feel this is a basic civic right," Ms. Gandhi said, "a human right."...

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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 10:53:46 PM »
That's interesting. It's unjust and unfair, and they're right--though it wasn't directly  listed as a human right by the UN, it's pretty much safe to assume that you can count it in. It's always terrible to see how much those of us in America and other countries that are fairly well-off take for granted  :(
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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 01:11:20 PM »
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

In Mumbai, a Campaign Against Restroom Injustice

Men and women here in India's largest city, a congested, humanity-soaked metropolis of roughly 20 million residents, would seem bound by at least one common misery: far too many people sharing far too few toilets.
 
But there is a difference -- unlike men, women often have to pay to urinate. So for months, social advocates like Minu Gandhi have canvassed the city, arguing that this disparity amounts to blatant discrimination and asking women to start demanding a right most of them had never contemplated: the Right to Pee.
 
"We all feel this is a basic civic right," Ms. Gandhi said, "a human right."...

Interestingly enough, pay toilets in India work better than the free toilets.  The money is used for upkeep, but what companies and NGOs who have installed pay toilets in India have discovered is people tend to take care of the pay toilets, and abuse the free ones.  The price is insignificant, and for most people who use them, well worth it.  If the toilets were all "free" a lot of these facilities get degraded and neglected.

From our perspective, we think it appalling to charge for a toilet, but for the Indians who agree to pay it has become a nice feature.  The people buy into both figuratively and literally.

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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2012, 09:36:46 PM »
So let me get this straight.

Men get to go potty for free.
The women get to go potty for pay.

Anybody can go to a pay toilet.

But the Hindus bring a cow into their home on their wedding day to poop on the floor for free....

I guess I'm just missing something here.
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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2012, 10:50:58 PM »
So let me get this straight.

Men get to go potty for free.
The women get to go potty for pay.

Anybody can go to a pay toilet.

But the Hindus bring a cow into their home on their wedding day to poop on the floor for free....

I guess I'm just missing something here.
I wouldn't mind lifting some of the laws against public urination in this country, but I can see that would also be a bit discriminatory.

I'm a man. I can pee on a tree. ;D
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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 01:43:30 AM »
So let me get this straight.

Men get to go potty for free.
The women get to go potty for pay.

Anybody can go to a pay toilet.

But the Hindus bring a cow into their home on their wedding day to poop on the floor for free....

I guess I'm just missing something here.
I wouldn't mind lifting some of the laws against public urination in this country, but I can see that would also be a bit discriminatory.

I'm a man. I can pee on a tree. ;D

Bingo.  I bet the mechanics of the act come into effect here.  The women probably can't use the free toilets if they don't wantt o scrub their posteriors with comet while the men can just take a few steps back and howitzer it in there.
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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 08:00:40 AM »
So let me get this straight.

Men get to go potty for free.
The women get to go potty for pay.

Anybody can go to a pay toilet.

But the Hindus bring a cow into their home on their wedding day to poop on the floor for free....

I guess I'm just missing something here.
I wouldn't mind lifting some of the laws against public urination in this country, but I can see that would also be a bit discriminatory.

I'm a man. I can pee on a tree. ;D

Bingo.  I bet the mechanics of the act come into effect here.  The women probably can't use the free toilets if they don't wantt o scrub their posteriors with comet while the men can just take a few steps back and howitzer it in there.
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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 10:42:06 PM »
So let me get this straight.

Men get to go potty for free.
The women get to go potty for pay.

Anybody can go to a pay toilet.

But the Hindus bring a cow into their home on their wedding day to poop on the floor for free....

I guess I'm just missing something here.
I wouldn't mind lifting some of the laws against public urination in this country, but I can see that would also be a bit discriminatory.

I'm a man. I can pee on a tree. ;D

Bingo.  I bet the mechanics of the act come into effect here.  The women probably can't use the free toilets if they don't wantt o scrub their posteriors with comet while the men can just take a few steps back and howitzer it in there.
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And thus, a whole new variety of German/Japanese pron came into being...
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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 10:56:54 PM »
And thus, a whole new variety of German/Japanese pron came into being...

Nah, the idea of girls peeing through a funnel... . . er... maybe I should just shut up before I get in trouble  8)

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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 11:12:38 PM »
It sounds rather simple, but not said clearly in the article:

India has free toilets and pay toilets. Men and women can use both. But women don't want to use the free toilets because they are yucky. So the article is portraying it as if the women are being denied the right.

I think the article sounds like it could be right: If India bans public waste-making, like America does, then it seems it has to guarantee  people are able to make their waste someplace.

But wait, lots of places in America don't have city ordinances requiring the city to make public toilets available and free. So why should India? That sounds like a good counterpoint.

But imagine this: You get off the bus in a small rural town in the US and everything is closed because it's after 7 PM or so. The bus drops you off outside a closed store. You have to wait several hours for the next bus. You really have to go to the bathroom, because you drank alot of water or coffee. What will you do?

So maybe you have a right to public waste-making and the statutes criminalizing it violate this right.

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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 11:18:05 PM »
It sounds rather simple, but not said clearly in the article:

India has free toilets and pay toilets. Men and women can use both. But women don't want to use the free toilets because they are yucky. So the article is portraying it as if the women are being denied the right.

I think the article sounds like it could be right: If India bans public waste-making, like America does, then it seems it has to guarantee  people are able to make their waste someplace.

But wait, lots of places in America don't have city ordinances requiring the city to make public toilets available and free. So why should India? That sounds like a good counterpoint.

But imagine this: You get off the bus in a small rural town in the US and everything is closed because it's after 7 PM or so. The bus drops you off outside a closed store. You have to wait several hours for the next bus. You really have to go to the bathroom, because you drank alot of water or coffee. What will you do?
I actually face that situation every so often, using mass transit exclusively as I do. (I also have a small bladder, which makes such painful situations potentially more frequent--drove my USMC drill instructors crazy. :-[) That's why I would sometimes like to have the license to find a discreet place to relieve myself when no facilities are available.
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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 11:26:09 PM »
I'm guessing it's impossible to outsource toilets.
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Re: Ghandi Says: Let Women Pee For Free
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2012, 03:32:42 AM »
It sounds rather simple, but not said clearly in the article:

India has free toilets and pay toilets. Men and women can use both. But women don't want to use the free toilets because they are yucky.

They must do things differently over there in India then, because I've cleaned lots of bathrooms when I worked retail, fast food and commercial cleaning, and in every single place I worked women were much grosser than men. Not just messier. Grosser. By a wide margin. Twas almost enough (but not quite) to shake my belief that women are generally superior.