Like that why bother about anything that ever happened anywhere? It's all past.
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
This really is a moot point. Slaves were pretty much the Pokemon cards of the day. Atrocities were committed in the past. In those days most took part due to group think and only a few spoke out. Even I bought and sold Pokemon back in the late 20th Century. But I learned the errors of my ways and have moved on. Pokemon is an outdated institution. One day slavery will be the same.
Grossly insensitive and I know you know better than that
Pokemon cards were a fashion, slavery was an institution. Pokemon cards are objects, slaves were people.
Grossly insensitive, but I was trying to make a point. The whole debate is pointless. We are worrying about things that Christians did in the past. It is good to learn from the past and if the Church were trying to reinstitute it, it might be something to worry about. This is just like how my ex used to bring up crap from months to years in the past to complain about. If we are going to worry about slavery today, lets start another thread about moslems.
Isn't it interesting that when one talks of trying to understand the Roman Church and enter into dialogue with it in an effort to heal the Great Schism, all of sudden to some, history become the trump card which stops all such talk 'dead on the tracks' ----the Crusades, the Unia and so on....But when history runs into the perceived belief requirements of some of contemporary American political discourse, it isn't relevant and should be overlooked. Hmmmm..... I agree that for the most part the past is the past and judging people and institutions by the behaviors of actors long dead does lead to mostly a lot of whining.
Please reread what I wrote. Actually, don't bother. With the modern miracles of "cut and paste" I can just re-write it in seconds...
"It is good to learn from the past and if the Church were trying to reinstitute it, it might be something to worry about."
When was the last time the Church bought and sold slaves? When was the last time a bishop or abbot brought up the subject of reinstituting slavery?
If the answer to these questions is >100 years ago...why are you worrying about it? Sure, understand the past and what happened. But also, please tell me how you intend to utilize this knowledge to deal with current issues.
As for Catholics vs Orthodox the situation really hasn't changed. We are still separate Churches. They have added lot's of extraneous bits. Until they make some significant changes it really is worthless to think about reintegrating with them. These issues are in the present. They are yesterday, today, and unless something significant is happening in Italy as I type this, I'd hazard the bet that they will be here tomorrow morning as well.
As for Catholic vs Orthodox 'incidents', I can name one shooting war within the last 20 years that was sectarian in nature.
If you want to try and deal with current issues of slavery I think you will find that many Orthodox Christians will be in agreement with you...with a smaller vocal minority supporting the opposition, explaining it away, and accusing you of being overly judgmental for bringing it up.