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Very interesting
« on: June 11, 2012, 06:54:57 AM »
I found this youtube channel. I think it's some kind of organization who are trying to reconstruct medieval western liturgical rites  :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/MedievalLiturgy/videos
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Re: Very interesting
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 11:58:45 AM »
For me that's interesting thing about the way they're bowing - almost like Orthodox.  So maybe Roman Catholics after medieval times have changed the way of the bowing that now they do genuflection or lie on the ground in the form of the cross. And that is a sacred area only for priests and their servants like in today's Orthodox churches. I've read somewhere that in miedieval times they had a kind of curtain, similar to Armenian or Syriac one.

But I doubt that they're really praying; for me it's more like a play...
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Re: Very interesting
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 12:01:50 PM »
yes the genuflecting was practiced by knights who used to bow before the king, they only went down on one knee so they could easily access their sword and lunge forward if need be.

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Re: Very interesting
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 03:22:02 PM »
I miss genuflecting.  :) And the little holy water stoups.

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Re: Very interesting
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 04:06:25 PM »
For me that's interesting thing about the way they're bowing - almost like Orthodox.  So maybe Roman Catholics after medieval times have changed the way of the bowing that now they do genuflection or lie on the ground in the form of the cross. And that is a sacred area only for priests and their servants like in today's Orthodox churches. I've read somewhere that in miedieval times they had a kind of curtain, similar to Armenian or Syriac one.

But I doubt that they're really praying; for me it's more like a play...

Dominican Fathers, Brothers, Nuns, and Sisters do not make the genuflection as do other Latin-rite Catholics. Instead they make a low bow (like our metania) without making the Sign of the Cross as do the Orthodox.

p.s. I was in a Dominican convent for three years. I left when they started listening to the late Father Thomas Merton and were into the study of Eastern meditations (Buddhism).

Interestingly, there were two Dominican missions to the Orthodox World: one in Constantinople and the other in the country of Georgia. It was not very long before both priories became Orthodox Christians and were then known as the "white" monastics. St. Seraphim of Sarov also wore white monastic garments and prayed in a way similar to the Dominican Rosary.

Some Western Rite parishes in Orthodoxy have an adapted Rosary, don't they?
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Re: Very interesting
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 04:20:52 PM »
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Instead they make a low bow (like our metania) without making the Sign of the Cross as do the Orthodox.
Really? I always make the Sign of the Cross when I am bowing.

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Some Western Rite parishes in Orthodoxy have an adapted Rosary, don't they?

You're correct.
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Re: Very interesting
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 04:28:23 PM »
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Instead they make a low bow (like our metania) without making the Sign of the Cross as do the Orthodox.
Really? I always make the Sign of the Cross when I am bowing.

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Some Western Rite parishes in Orthodoxy have an adapted Rosary, don't they?

You're correct.

It has been a while since I have visited a Dominican church, quite a while in fact.

Were you a Dominican?
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Re: Very interesting
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 04:48:21 PM »
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Instead they make a low bow (like our metania) without making the Sign of the Cross as do the Orthodox.
Really? I always make the Sign of the Cross when I am bowing.

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Some Western Rite parishes in Orthodoxy have an adapted Rosary, don't they?

You're correct.

It has been a while since I have visited a Dominican church, quite a while in fact.

Were you a Dominican?
No, a lutheran. There are almost no catholic monks left in Denmark. Only a few franciscans. But I have always enjoyed visiting churches when I have found myself in catholic countries.
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Re: Very interesting
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 05:51:01 PM »
Dominican Fathers, Brothers, Nuns, and Sisters do not make the genuflection as do other Latin-rite Catholics. Instead they make a low bow (like our metania) without making the Sign of the Cross as do the Orthodox.

p.s. I was in a Dominican convent for three years. I left when they started listening to the late Father Thomas Merton and were into the study of Eastern meditations (Buddhism).

Interestingly, there were two Dominican missions to the Orthodox World: one in Constantinople and the other in the country of Georgia. It was not very long before both priories became Orthodox Christians and were then known as the "white" monastics. St. Seraphim of Sarov also wore white monastic garments and prayed in a way similar to the Dominican Rosary.



Wow, thank you for the knowledge! I'm interested in the liturgies, but haven't known all these things! ;)
Unfortunately, in Poland Dominicans practically have lost their own rite; they prefer a new liturgical forms to evangelize young people. Only sometimes, but in Novus Ordo, they use older liturgical chants and Orthodox icons.
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