Hello dear brothers and sisters,
Ive been reading on one of the forums and came across this post by someone who has done some research and wrote this:
"I am currently studying the philosophy of world religions at University at this present moment, and I would like to share that Jews have a list of descriptions of who and what a Messiah should be, and I have included on why Jesus is not a Messiah of Judaism, hence, considering Muhammed was alive AFTER Jesus, and also started a new religion himself...many listed may also apply to him as well.
Rabbi, please correct me anywhere, if I am incorrect.
1. Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies. He did not build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28), Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6), bring in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. Or even spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world ― on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9)
2.Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah, as he did not live during the time of the prophecy of the second Moses - 300 years too late apparently. Jesus was born to the Virgin Mary, and was considered supernatural" and he also rejected the Torah.
3. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are not interpreted properly. For example: The Virgin birth, "alma" is used in the Herbew text and means young woman and or giving birth - that was changed to virginal birth...also Jesus having a divine father is a Hellenstic (Ancient Greek) ideology.
4. Jewish belief is based on national revelation, and we ALL will know when the next Messiah will come.
Therefore, there has been no Messiah - yet, according to Judaism".
I believe that Jesus Christ has fulfilled the scriptures,what are your thoughts on the post above?
Also,we are waiting for the 2nd coming of the Messiah,does the Old Testament mention the 2nd coming?
Thank you for your answers, God bless in Jesus Christ.
Judaism itself picks and choses , and gets to the limitis of irationality just to dismiss Jesus.. There are two options with the Jews.. To want to be sincere with their religion or to hang on anything to disbelief in Him.They are the ones split between two opinions as Elijah said : If the Lord be God than follow Him, if Baal than follow Him..
1.Jews often want to forget that the general way of interpreting the Scriptures was poeticall, allegorical, through figures of speech and not extremely literalist.
The second Temple was still standing around Jesus' ministry and some 37 years after.Some say that the Temple of Ezekiel is a description of the Second Temple, or that it was conditional and some as the Kabbalists take it to be refering to the Church.. There is actually a Christian description that corresponds with that, the New Jerusalem in Revelation, that has similar descriptions.. The fathers themselves have interpreted most of the verses regathering of Israel to be refering to the Church whom is the New Israel.Israel means the one who sees the Lord.God's ruling in the World is the Christian Church.The Church is all over the world.The name of God is one, Jesus.. The no1 theist religion in the world is Christianity.. The verses in Zec also refer to the pagans coming to the knowledge of the true God.. And i`m not sure all prophecies fulfilled entirely with the first coming.. One former jewish hacham who became an Orthodox monk , Neofit Cavsocalvitiu said that the psalmist foretold the two comings , when he said "The Lord comes, comes to judge the world" .. He also had an interesting manner of interpreting in various cases Israel to refer to the (Orthodox) Church and Jacob to the Jews or the heterodox.. Jacob in hebrew also means "deceived" .. He speaks of two "Jacobs" one red and one deceived..
2.Jesus was born "at the appointed time" , at the exact time.That is why there is a curse in the Talmud for everyone who tries to interpret the prophecies of Daniel concerning the timing of Messiah, the Prince.Jesus did not rejected the Torah(Matt 5:17-19).He rejected some false traditions of the rabbis concerning the Torah.Here we have a philosophical principle to debate of Jesus vs the Torah.. Yet even Jewish rabbis have believed that the Torah of Moses will get superseded by the Torah of Messiah.. Genesis says concerning the law, untill the Comforter comes, on whom all people will gather.As I said even the Rabbis agree that some parts of the Torah of Moses were only appointed temporal.
Jewish Tradition on the temporary state of the Mitzvahs (commandments) of the Torah
"Ordinances of the Kings" that the King annointed as Messiah will "sit on his kingly throne and write for himself a Book of the Law in addition to the Law given to our Fathers" and "He will compel Israel to obey these commandments".—Risto Santala quoting RaMBaM
"The Torah will revert to its original state"-- Pesikhta Rabbati 89,6
"The Holy One -- may he be blessed -- will sit (in the Garden of Eden) and draw up a new Torah for Israel, which will be given to them by the Messiah."—Rabbi Yalqut Isaiah, Yalqut Isaiah 26, siman 296
"In the future the commandments will be annulled.”-- Nida 66b. ‘traditions of the Wise’
"At the end the Torah will be forgotten."—Rabbi Shimon Ben Eleazar, Mechilta, Masechet Piska, 2; cAD 170-200
“This is how it will be in the days of the Messiah; there will be no 'thou shalt' and 'thou shalt not' commandments (zechut ve-hovâh)."—Rabbi Shimon Ben Eleazar, Shabbath 130a-b.
Klausner, in his book "The Messianic Idea in Israel", explains that, "The natural interpretation of this is that in the days of the Messiah, the Torah and the Commandments will lose their significance"—Risto Santala on Klausner
"The Torah which man learns in this world is but vanity compared with the teaching of the Messiah."—Midrash of Ecclesiates, Midrash Qoheleth 71,8.
" 'The LORD sets prisoners free'... What does this 'setting free of prisoners' mean? There are those who say that in the future the Holy One will make all unclean animals fit for eating."—Midrash Psalm 146:7, Midrash Tehilim 146,7.**This is similar to Jesus’ and St Paul’s saying on freeing the prisoners
All sacrifices, except thankofferings*, will be abolished in future; and even should prayer be abolished, that portion thereof which comes under Praises will not be abolished.—Levit. Rabba 9. *The thanksoffering, or todah, is the Eucharist which means thanksgiving, as it is written Christ “gave thanks” and said “offer this memorial sacrifice”
“Thus our Sages have stated: Even if all the festivals become obsolete, Purim will remain. In the Messianic Era, the joy and tranquility of the festivals will be a daily experience. Their light will be like that of a candle in the light of day. Yet even in that spiritually advanced climate, the loftiness of Purim will still be something to celebrate.”—Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi, On Esther 9:28
3.Alma means young girl, indeed.. the word also means , the Concealed One.. If you ask me the almah itself is a more deep stuff because it shows more the nature of Mary and who she was and points and alludes to the promise made to the serpent.. Actually the fathers call the birth of Mary as one of the Concealed Mysteries.Mary was a pregnant bethroted and married woman.. This status of her concealed who she was, and the fathers say that Mary and the birth of Jesus were concealed to the devil because of this.
4.It was said that the kingdom will be taken away from Israel, and the Bible speaks of the remnant of Israel.. There were Jews who believed , like St. Anna, St. Simeon , Nicodemous, Joseph of Arimathea , the thousands of Jews who believed in Acts.This were the first-fruits of the remnant of the Jews.. Jesus was foretold by St.John the Baptist .. The ministry of St. John and the ministry of Jesus, the ministry of the Apostles and the ministry of the Church was first to Israel..
The Jews will use any manner of interpretation except the ones used in Christianity.. They don`t know that the veil is removed in Christ.. The Torah can only be fruitfull in the light of Christ.. The end of the Torah is Christ as Paul said.. The chastising of God to the Jews for breaking the Torah is mostly because of Jesus and his teachings, which are the teachings of God and true.. As it is written in the Torah (Deut 18:18).. The true and ultimate morality and the revealed morality is that of Jesus.And as one of the father said, Moses himself said "They are wrong" foreseing this..