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From the story: Dorff said he did not know how many members of the movement's Rabbinical Assembly perform same-sex marriages. However, many rabbis had already been conducting ceremonies for gays and lesbians that they had developed on their own. Keshet, which advocates for gay and lesbian Jews, has started a public database of rabbis who would perform the ceremony called The Equality Guide. I suppose it’s good to have standardized guidelines. My wife has a Jewish-convert acquaintance whose same-sex marriage was performed by a Conservative rabbi. I guess he/she was winging it? |
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Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...
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yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years. If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up. Agreed. The moon will be blood, and the locusts will come. Start heading to the basement then, there was a Modern Orthodox rabbi (though there are many rabbis who dispute his claim to be a rabbi) who a couple years ago ('09 maybe?) performed some sort of gay wedding ceremony. EDIT: I'll see later if I can find the article. |
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yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years. If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up. Agreed. The moon will be blood, and the locusts will come. Start heading to the basement then, there was a Modern Orthodox rabbi (though there are many rabbis who dispute his claim to be a rabbi) who a couple years ago ('09 maybe?) performed some sort of gay wedding ceremony. EDIT: I'll see later if I can find the article. That would be different from the an official statement from an Orthodox Governing Body sanctioning Gay marriages. There are always rouge clergy in every group. So maybe there was just a small ground tremor or a tornado or two.. |
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This is just one of the many reasons why I left the faith of Judaism a few months ago. I guess soon it might be hello Islam for me a Jew turned Moslem has an odd ring to it but might just have to do for now Sounds like "from the ditch to the duck pond" situation to me. |
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RE: the OP- Who cares?
We all should, as it shows the continuing deterioration and downward spiral of faith, morals, and values in this country (the U.S.A.), afflicting and affecting all of us, all segments of society. Yes, we are our brother's keeper. You're right. I recant. |
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RE: the OP- Who cares?
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Obviously I do. Every one here posts topics they feel are important. Whether or not others do remains to be seen. I don't see why you see the need to gloat about it all the time, though. What does he gloat about, exactly? Being gay? I've never seen a post from him that I interpreted as gloating, that was related to his homosexuality. When someone mentions their impending marriage, current marriage, or former marriage, do you see it as gloating about their heterosexuality? It's not like Tallitot posts nude pictures of him and his partner. |
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Tallitot
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Jurisdiction: United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism
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« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2012, 06:06:16 PM » |
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Wait I'm missing something here Tallitot is gay ??
He is. Like a queen!Oh wait... And in a few years I'll have my diamond jubilee |
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If people cry at weddings...why don't they laugh at funerals?
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