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« on: June 06, 2012, 05:23:31 AM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 06:17:31 AM »

Conservatives approving gay weddings? Wait, what? laugh
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 08:33:35 AM »

Conservatives approving gay weddings? Wait, what? laugh
Rush Limbaugh (I don't know if you know who that is) remarked the other day about the problem with conservative institutions.  The drift is naturally towards liberalism, because that takes no effort just entropy, whereas conservatism requires eternal vigilance to maintain an institution as conservative.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 09:48:15 AM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

Do you live in a state that has gay marriage? I was wondering if we'd see your wedding pictures anytime soon.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 09:50:28 AM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

Do you live in a state that has gay marriage? I was wondering if we'd see your wedding pictures anytime soon.  Wink
No unfortunately same-sex marriages aren't legal in VA. We may have a religious ceremony at some point though.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 09:54:21 AM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

Do you live in a state that has gay marriage? I was wondering if we'd see your wedding pictures anytime soon.  Wink
No unfortunately same-sex marriages aren't legal in VA. We may have a religious ceremony at some point though.

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 09:57:37 AM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years.

If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 11:52:49 AM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

Oy vey!  The downward spiral continues.  Lord have mercy!

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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 12:18:52 PM »

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Dorff said he did not know how many members of the movement's Rabbinical Assembly perform same-sex marriages. However, many rabbis had already been conducting ceremonies for gays and lesbians that they had developed on their own. Keshet, which advocates for gay and lesbian Jews, has started a public database of rabbis who would perform the ceremony called The Equality Guide.

I suppose it’s good to have standardized guidelines. My wife has a Jewish-convert acquaintance whose same-sex marriage was performed by a Conservative rabbi. I guess he/she was winging it?
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 04:20:33 PM »

Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 04:23:38 PM »

Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...

Even though they have Catholics on it, I heard it's run by Protestants.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2012, 04:26:36 PM »

Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...

Even though they have Catholics on it, I heard it's run by Protestants.

For once, your humor might actually be dead on the mark. The right-wing majority of America does tend to be Protestant.
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2012, 04:45:49 PM »

So much for the Torah.
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2012, 05:04:17 PM »

Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...

My rabbi confirmed this, so it isn't just propaganda.
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2012, 05:15:28 PM »

Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...

My rabbi confirmed this, so it isn't just propaganda.
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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2012, 05:18:51 PM »

Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...

My rabbi confirmed this, so it isn't just propaganda.
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Are you sure your Rabbi isn't a Protestant?

Isn't that what Reform rabbis, and now many  "Conservative" rabbis are?
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2012, 05:23:05 PM »

Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...

All news is propaganda.
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2012, 05:25:52 PM »

Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...

All news is propaganda.

Not necessarily, but much of it is.

I think it was Mark Twain (?) who said, "If you don't read the newspaper, you'll be uninformed.  If you do read the newspaper, you'll be misinformed."
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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2012, 09:41:27 PM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years.

If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up.  Smiley

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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2012, 09:57:40 PM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years.

If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up.  Smiley

Agreed.  The moon will be blood, and the locusts will come.

Start heading to the basement then, there was a Modern Orthodox rabbi (though there are many rabbis who dispute his claim to be a rabbi) who a couple years ago ('09 maybe?) performed some sort of gay wedding ceremony.

EDIT: I'll see later if I can find the article.
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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2012, 10:56:35 AM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years.

If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up.  Smiley

Agreed.  The moon will be blood, and the locusts will come.

Start heading to the basement then, there was a Modern Orthodox rabbi (though there are many rabbis who dispute his claim to be a rabbi) who a couple years ago ('09 maybe?) performed some sort of gay wedding ceremony.

EDIT: I'll see later if I can find the article.

That would be different from the an official statement from an Orthodox Governing Body sanctioning Gay marriages. There are always rouge clergy in every group. So maybe there was just a small ground tremor or a tornado or two..
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2012, 11:02:43 AM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years.

If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up.  Smiley

Agreed.  The moon will be blood, and the locusts will come.

Start heading to the basement then, there was a Modern Orthodox rabbi (though there are many rabbis who dispute his claim to be a rabbi) who a couple years ago ('09 maybe?) performed some sort of gay wedding ceremony.

EDIT: I'll see later if I can find the article.

That would be different from the an official statement from an Orthodox Governing Body sanctioning Gay marriages. There are always rouge clergy in every group. So maybe there was just a small ground tremor or a tornado or two..

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Like FOX news is really a reliable news source for anything but right-wing propoganda...

Even though they have Catholics on it, I heard it's run by Protestants.

Everyone knows that Jews control the media. 

So much for the Torah.

I guess you didn't get the memo.  It's all about the Talmud now.  Torah has become meaningless.
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2012, 12:25:35 PM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years.

If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up.  Smiley

Agreed.  The moon will be blood, and the locusts will come.

Start heading to the basement then, there was a Modern Orthodox rabbi (though there are many rabbis who dispute his claim to be a rabbi) who a couple years ago ('09 maybe?) performed some sort of gay wedding ceremony.

EDIT: I'll see later if I can find the article.

LOL - it's "flee to the mountains".

I don't have a basement Sad   Under 10 inches of this Texas dirt, is solid limestone.
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2012, 01:40:22 PM »

This is just one of the many reasons why I left the faith of Judaism a few months ago. I guess soon it might be hello Islam for me  laugh a Jew turned Moslem has an odd ring to it but might just have to do for now  Tongue
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This is just one of the many reasons why I left the faith of Judaism a few months ago. I guess soon it might be hello Islam for me  laugh a Jew turned Moslem has an odd ring to it but might just have to do for now  Tongue


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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2012, 03:49:29 PM »

"The Conservative branch of American Judaism has formally approved same-sex marriage ceremonies..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/conservative-jews-approve-gay-wedding-guidelines/#ixzz1x0HGcwn4

yeah..But don't read too much into the term "Conservative". They are not part of the "Reform Movement" which is a whole other kettle of fish and has more to do with how services are conducted and who can serve in authority etc. Conservative congregations are often very liberal. I have a Gay relative who has attended a Conservative Temple for many years.

If Orthodox Jews allow Gay marriage then head for an inner room in your basement and get under a strong table for when the winds pick up.  Smiley

Agreed.  The moon will be blood, and the locusts will come.

Start heading to the basement then, there was a Modern Orthodox rabbi (though there are many rabbis who dispute his claim to be a rabbi) who a couple years ago ('09 maybe?) performed some sort of gay wedding ceremony.

EDIT: I'll see later if I can find the article.

LOL - it's "flee to the mountains".

I don't have a basement Sad   Under 10 inches of this Texas dirt, is solid limestone.

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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2012, 04:19:51 PM »

RE: the OP- Who cares?
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2012, 04:35:56 PM »

RE: the OP- Who cares?

We all should, as it shows the continuing deterioration and downward spiral of faith, morals, and values in this country (the U.S.A.), afflicting and affecting all of us, all segments of society.  Yes, we are our brother's keeper.
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2012, 04:42:31 PM »

That's gay.
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2012, 04:52:19 PM »

RE: the OP- Who cares?

We all should, as it shows the continuing deterioration and downward spiral of faith, morals, and values in this country (the U.S.A.), afflicting and affecting all of us, all segments of society.  Yes, we are our brother's keeper.

You're right.  I recant.  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2012, 04:54:27 PM »

RE: the OP- Who cares?
Obviously I do. Every one here posts topics they feel are important. Whether or not others do remains to be seen.
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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2012, 04:57:25 PM »

RE: the OP- Who cares?
Obviously I do. Every one here posts topics they feel are important. Whether or not others do remains to be seen.
I don't see why you see the need to gloat about it all the time, though.
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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2012, 05:01:49 PM »

RE: the OP- Who cares?
Obviously I do. Every one here posts topics they feel are important. Whether or not others do remains to be seen.
I don't see why you see the need to gloat about it all the time, though.

What does he gloat about, exactly?  Being gay?  I've never seen a post from him that I interpreted as gloating, that was related to his homosexuality.  When someone mentions their impending marriage, current marriage, or former marriage, do you see it as gloating about their heterosexuality?  It's not like Tallitot posts nude pictures of him and his partner.
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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2012, 05:06:36 PM »

Not at all what I was talking about, but nice try.
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2012, 05:07:23 PM »

Not at all what I was talking about, but nice try.

What, exactly, are you talking about then?
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2012, 05:11:07 PM »

Seems like Tallitot likes to rub it in whenever "progress" is made.
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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2012, 05:12:59 PM »

Seems like Tallitot likes to rub it in whenever "progress" is made.

How is he rubbing anything in, just because he posts a story that got his interest?  Isn't that what most of the stories in the Christian News forum are, stories that got someone's interest?  It isn't like he's said "Ha ha ha!  You Orthodox will one day fall to this too!"
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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2012, 05:20:28 PM »

Seems like Tallitot likes to rub it in whenever "progress" is made.
Apparently this topic hit a nerve for you and i sincerley apologize. Considering the title of the thread made it clear what the thread was about why did you read it in the first place?
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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2012, 05:28:22 PM »

Come on, James. Clearly more than what is interesting is at play. This is an Orthodox Christian forum and tallitot knows how most of us feel about such issues.
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« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2012, 05:46:16 PM »

Wait I'm missing something here Tallitot is gay ??
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« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2012, 05:49:42 PM »

Wait I'm missing something here Tallitot is gay ??

He is.
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« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2012, 05:50:04 PM »

Come on, James. Clearly more than what is interesting is at play. This is an Orthodox Christian forum and tallitot knows how most of us feel about such issues.

So don't click on a topic with the title 'Conservative Jews approve gay wedding guidelines."
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« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2012, 05:52:10 PM »

Wait I'm missing something here Tallitot is gay ??

He is.

Like a queen!

Oh wait...  angel
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« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2012, 06:06:16 PM »

Wait I'm missing something here Tallitot is gay ??

He is.

Like a queen!

Oh wait...  angel
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