Always wear your cross

[William]

Does that include stuff like sleeping, showering, or swimming?

[JamesRottnek]

Does that include stuff like sleeping, showering, or swimming?

That depends on whether or not you think grave bodily harm will come to you if you don't, in which case you probably shouldn't wear your magical amulet at all.

[Achronos]

I take it off during all those activities to be honest.

But is there some sort of mystical thing I'm missing here?

[brandb]

Does that include stuff like sleeping, showering, or swimming?

That depends on whether or not you think grave bodily harm will come to you if you don't, in which case you probably shouldn't wear your magical amulet at all.

Basically.

Though I've always seen this as an RC sentiment (?). Or maybe I'm hypocrite because I do have a
little wooden cross in the bag I take to work with me everyday... Meh.

[mabsoota]

in my church, i think about 90% of people never take it off.
(except if they have / work with a magnetic resonance body scan - here u have to take off all metal or u stick to the machine!)
some of the ladies take it off to have different colour coded ones for every outfit, but they did not do that 'in the old days'.
mine stays on, but it wasn't always like that.
nothing bad happens if u take it off, it's just nice to always have it there!
 

[LBK]

Do married folks take their wedding rings/bands off when showering or sleeping? There's your answer.

[William]

Ok, thanks LBK.

Gee, I feel dumb now. I haven't taken this cross off in at least a year.

[JamesR]

Take it off during those moments; common sense. As Jesus said when referring to the Sabbath, man was not made for these rules and traditions but these rules and traditions were made for man.

[Ortho_cat]

take it off if you want to, or leave it on if you want to. I think it would be better to wear it more often than not.

[Michał Kalina]

I take of my cross at swimming pool and sauna but don't everywhere else.

[JamesR]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

[GabrieltheCelt]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos.

[orthonorm]

Do married folks take their wedding rings/bands off when showering or sleeping? There's your answer.

Then the answer is yes.

[Achronos]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

[NicholasMyra]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

Yes, but you're forgetting Macariosophorius's Law:

If the Old Testament Jews had a taboo, at some point in history a superstitious grandma has told her Christian grandchildren it applies to them. Normal judaizing points include:

Forbidding pork.
Banning tattoos.
Banning menstural women from church.
Forbidding the trimming of facial hair.
Compulsory circumcision.
Miscellaneous purification rites for women.

Tares and the Wheat, you know how the story goes.

[HabteSelassie]

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

What do you mean should


In LA we call that straight gangsta yo!

stay blessed,
habte selassie

[Achronos]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

Yes, but you're forgetting Macariosophorius's Law:

If the Old Testament Jews had a taboo, at some point in history a superstitious grandma has told her Christian grandchildren it applies to them. Normal judaizing points include:

Forbidding pork.
Banning tattoos.
Banning menstural women from church.
Forbidding the trimming of facial hair.
Compulsory circumcision.
Miscellaneous purification rites for women.

Tares and the Wheat, you know how the story goes.

LOL awesome.

[Big Chris]

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

What a horrible place to get a cross tattooed.
Talk about limiting one's job prospects.
I'm not wearing a long-sleeve shirt year round.

[NicholasMyra]

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

What a horrible place to get a cross tattooed.
Talk about limiting one's job prospects.
I'm not wearing a long-sleeve shirt year round.

They started doing it because Muslims would steal and convert their babies.

[Achronos]

I'm thinking about getting a cross tattoo'd there myself.

[Ortho_cat]

i haven't worn mine in forever cause the chain broke

[JamesRottnek]

i haven't worn mine in forever cause the chain broke

You don't have superglue?  Then it will never come off again.

[Ortho_cat]

i haven't worn mine in forever cause the chain broke

You don't have superglue?  Then it will never come off again.

unfortunately it will after my skin goes through its shedding cycle

[JamesRottnek]

i haven't worn mine in forever cause the chain broke

You don't have superglue?  Then it will never come off again.

unfortunately it will after my skin goes through its shedding cycle

I knew the lizard people were real!  But seriously, have it surgically implanted; all the REAL Orthodox do.

[GabrieltheCelt]

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

What a horrible place to get a cross tattooed.

Why?  A watch band can easily cover up the majority of it.

Talk about limiting one's job prospects.

It used to be that only service men or ne'er-do-wells got tattoos.  That still holds true today, but they're becoming increasingly popular and mainstream.  At any rate, if it's a small cross and not one of those gaudy West Coast Chopper gothic looking crosses, then most employers will gladly over look it on grounds of religious discrimination.  

[biro]

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

What a horrible place to get a cross tattooed.

Why?  A watch band can easily cover up the majority of it.

I think he meant the one on the woman's forehead.

[JamesRottnek]

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

What a horrible place to get a cross tattooed.

Why?  A watch band can easily cover up the majority of it.

I think he meant the one on the woman's forehead.

You mean I've been wearing my watch wrong all these years!?!

[Ortho_cat]

i haven't worn mine in forever cause the chain broke

You don't have superglue?  Then it will never come off again.

unfortunately it will after my skin goes through its shedding cycle

I knew the lizard people were real!  But seriously, have it surgically implanted; all the REAL Orthodox do.

^^^Daddy

[biro]

You see? He's a lizard person, and he's wearing the same breastplate as St. Aaron. Now what does that tell you?

[JamesRottnek]

You see? He's a lizard person, and he's wearing the same breastplate as St. Aaron. Now what does that tell you?

Clearly St. Aaron must have been a lizard-man, which proves that all the Church hierarchy are lizard-men, and that the Church has been infected with demonic-lizards, which must mean Orthodoxy is evil and corrupt and in league with the Masons!

[biro]

You see? He's a lizard person, and he's wearing the same breastplate as St. Aaron. Now what does that tell you?

Clearly St. Aaron must have been a lizard-man, which proves that all the Church hierarchy are lizard-men, and that the Church has been infected with demonic-lizards, which must mean Orthodoxy is evil and corrupt and in league with the Masons!

I see it now!

[Ortho_cat]

You see? He's a lizard person, and he's wearing the same breastplate as St. Aaron. Now what does that tell you?

Clearly St. Aaron must have been a lizard-man, which proves that all the Church hierarchy are lizard-men, and that the Church has been infected with demonic-lizards, which must mean Orthodoxy is evil and corrupt and in league with the Masons!

hmm ok, but where does Capt. Kirk fit into all this? 

[witega]

You see? He's a lizard person, and he's wearing the same breastplate as St. Aaron. Now what does that tell you?

Clearly St. Aaron must have been a lizard-man, which proves that all the Church hierarchy are lizard-men, and that the Church has been infected with demonic-lizards, which must mean Orthodoxy is evil and corrupt and in league with the Masons!

hmm ok, but where does Capt. Kirk fit into all this? 

Captain James Tiberius Kirk, was clearly a Latin schismatic.

[JamesRottnek]

You see? He's a lizard person, and he's wearing the same breastplate as St. Aaron. Now what does that tell you?

Clearly St. Aaron must have been a lizard-man, which proves that all the Church hierarchy are lizard-men, and that the Church has been infected with demonic-lizards, which must mean Orthodoxy is evil and corrupt and in league with the Masons!

hmm ok, but where does Capt. Kirk fit into all this? 

Captain James Tiberius Kirk, was clearly a Latin schismatic.

Indeed

[Νεκτάριος]

Do married folks take their wedding rings/bands off when showering or sleeping? There's your answer.

I take my ring off all the time.  Especially when I'm cooking or kneading dough.  I'd prefer to never wear it actually.  I hate jewelry.  Also the banya - wearing any metal in there is a painful experience that you probably won't do twice. 

[JamesR]

Jewelry is a good way to protect your money. You exchange your cash for expensive jewelry and wear it at all times so that you do not have to worry about it being stolen or hustled from you by the bank and when you need quick cash, you simply just sell the jewelry to the nearest pawn shop and get your money back.

[Νεκτάριος]

I think deposits yielding 15% interest are probably a bit better for my long term financial situation than jewelry...  And I don't understand the concept of needing quick cash.  Plan ahead? 

[Asteriktos]

Do married folks take their wedding rings/bands off when showering or sleeping? There's your answer.

Then the answer is yes.

I'm fairly surprised that people wear rings at all. I found them to be more an annoyance than anything. Though showering and sleeping were the least of my concerns... 

[JamesR]

I think deposits yielding 15% interest are probably a bit better for my long term financial situation than jewelry...  And I don't understand the concept of needing quick cash.  Plan ahead? 

It is an American trend; mostly popular among minority groups. Due to not trusting the banks, being worried about the police tracing 'dirty' money or getting their money stolen since they live in a bad area, many people in impoverished areas have been doing precisely this; they exchange their money for jewelry such as necklaces, watches--even golden teeth--so that their currency is with them at all times and can easily be traded in for cash at the pawn shop when they need money.

[Νεκτάριος]

I think deposits yielding 15% interest are probably a bit better for my long term financial situation than jewelry...  And I don't understand the concept of needing quick cash.  Plan ahead? 

It is an American trend; mostly popular among minority groups. Due to not trusting the banks, being worried about the police tracing 'dirty' money or getting their money stolen since they live in a bad area, many people in impoverished areas have been doing precisely this; they exchange their money for jewelry such as necklaces, watches--even golden teeth--so that their currency is with them at all times and can easily be traded in for cash at the pawn shop when they need money.

The fact that this is practiced in impoverished areas should tell the efficacy of the practice. 

[orthonorm]

Do married folks take their wedding rings/bands off when showering or sleeping? There's your answer.

Then the answer is yes.

I'm fairly surprised that people wear rings at all. I found them to be more an annoyance than anything. Though showering and sleeping were the least of my concerns... 

I'm with you about the jewelry thing. Hate it.

And to amplify LBK's advice. I know married people who remove their rings when going out with the guys or girls without their spouse, when they travel for business, etc. Their motives can only be known by the behavior they engage in when they do it.

Some are Christian.

Some are Orthodox.

So you can remove it then as well.

[dzheremi]

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

What a horrible place to get a cross tattooed.
Talk about limiting one's job prospects.
I'm not wearing a long-sleeve shirt year round.

No, no...you don't understand. They're tiny. I think I am the only one in my church without one, but all that I've seen are tiny, such that if you wore a regular-sized watch the width of the band would be big enough to cover the tattoo completely. I've seen benign moles in the same spot that were bigger than most Coptic wrist tattoos.

As people at my church tell me, in modern times the tattoo has been adopted as a sly form of protest against Muslim domination of Egypt. The Copts used to be branded thusly by the Muslim authorities so as to be easily identifiable for purposes of jizya tax collection and other things (ahem...), so even after that system was dismantled the Copts decided that they should like to keep tattooing themselves as a declaration of faith (since public evangelism is, of course, verboten), and a visible witness and reminder of their history and the proud refusal to submit to Islam as the majority of their fellow countrymen had done over the centuries.

This is precisely why I won't be getting one myself, as I didn't go through any of that...but I sure admire those who did, and would have a hard time imaging that they should be condemned for what was first beyond their control, and later a witness to their Christian faith under extremely harsh conditions.

[Νεκτάριος]

Do married folks take their wedding rings/bands off when showering or sleeping? There's your answer.

Then the answer is yes.

I'm fairly surprised that people wear rings at all. I found them to be more an annoyance than anything. Though showering and sleeping were the least of my concerns... 

I'm with you about the jewelry thing. Hate it.

And to amplify LBK's advice. I know married people who remove their rings when going out with the guys or girls without their spouse, when they travel for business, etc. Their motives can only be known by the behavior they engage in when they do it.

Some are Christian.

Some are Orthodox.

So you can remove it then as well.

Who are they fooling other than themselves?  I have a very visible tan line where my ring is, so even without my wedding ring on it is pretty obvious that I wear a wedding ring. 

[orthonorm]

Do married folks take their wedding rings/bands off when showering or sleeping? There's your answer.

Then the answer is yes.

I'm fairly surprised that people wear rings at all. I found them to be more an annoyance than anything. Though showering and sleeping were the least of my concerns...  

I'm with you about the jewelry thing. Hate it.

And to amplify LBK's advice. I know married people who remove their rings when going out with the guys or girls without their spouse, when they travel for business, etc. Their motives can only be known by the behavior they engage in when they do it.

Some are Christian.

Some are Orthodox.

So you can remove it then as well.

Who are they fooling other than themselves?  I have a very visible tan line where my ring is, so even without my wedding ring on it is pretty obvious that I wear a wedding ring.  

Tan in a bottle.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Then again, I do know from experience sometimes a ring attracts people looking for nothing other than a short term affair.

[Alpo]

Also the banya - wearing any metal in there is a painful experience that you probably won't do twice. 

I don't know if Russian sauna is anyhow different from the Finnish one but haven't had any problem while wearing my cross or earrings in sauna.

[Νεκτάριος]

Also the banya - wearing any metal in there is a painful experience that you probably won't do twice. 

I don't know if Russian sauna is anyhow different from the Finnish one but haven't had any problem while wearing my cross or earrings in sauna.

Hmm, maybe my skin is sensitive.  I think the Russian sauna is cooler than a Finnish one but it is much wetter so it feels hotter. 

[Orthodox11]

I only take off my cross if I think there's a good chance I'll lose it if I don't. I don't think I've taken it off more than 3 or 4 times in the past 7 years, just haven't had the need.

[Alpo]

Also the banya - wearing any metal in there is a painful experience that you probably won't do twice. 

I don't know if Russian sauna is anyhow different from the Finnish one but haven't had any problem while wearing my cross or earrings in sauna.

Hmm, maybe my skin is sensitive.  I think the Russian sauna is cooler than a Finnish one but it is much wetter so it feels hotter. 

Casting a little water over the cross makes things easier. Of course one could always take the cross away but then again easiness is boring.

[vamrat]

I take my cross off before bed since I have a heavier, longer chain than I used to (I keep breaking them).  I always worry that in my fits of tossing and turning I'll rip it off (I've done this before).  Other than that, I pretty much ear it always.  When I become properly hyperdox I will get a proper 20lb cast iron cross to chain across my chest and that I will never take off.

[Asteriktos]

When I become properly hyperdox I will get a proper 20lb cast iron cross to chain across my chest and that I will never take off.

Ahh yes, the idea that the quality and importance of an object is directly proportional to it's degree of cumbersomosity.. A most wise approach!

[witega]

I take my cross off before bed since I have a heavier, longer chain than I used to (I keep breaking them).  I always worry that in my fits of tossing and turning I'll rip it off (I've done this before).  Other than that, I pretty much ear it always.  When I become properly hyperdox I will get a proper 20lb cast iron cross to chain across my chest and that I will never take off.

After breaking 4 chains in less than 2 years, I tried a piece of ribbon (the kind used for Christmas presents). After about 10 years, the first ribbon finally broke. Replaced it and the second ribbon has lasted about 7 years so far. And I almost never take my cross off--I'm so absent-minded that if I did, I'd likely forget what I had done with it.

[J Michael]

When I become properly hyperdox I will get a proper 20lb cast iron cross to chain across my chest and that I will never take off.

Ahh yes, the idea that the quality and importance of an object is directly proportional to it's degree of cumbersomosity.. A most wise approach!

 

That's longhand for "bigger is better". 

Why stop at just 20lbs?   

[Big Chris]

I have no idea what any idea what you people are talking about.  My cross weighs something like .5 oz.

[vamrat]

When I become properly hyperdox I will get a proper 20lb cast iron cross to chain across my chest and that I will never take off.

Ahh yes, the idea that the quality and importance of an object is directly proportional to it's degree of cumbersomosity.. A most wise approach!

 

That's longhand for "bigger is better". 

Why stop at just 20lbs?   

Piety is something you have to work your way into.

[vamrat]

I take my cross off before bed since I have a heavier, longer chain than I used to (I keep breaking them).  I always worry that in my fits of tossing and turning I'll rip it off (I've done this before).  Other than that, I pretty much ear it always.  When I become properly hyperdox I will get a proper 20lb cast iron cross to chain across my chest and that I will never take off.

After breaking 4 chains in less than 2 years, I tried a piece of ribbon (the kind used for Christmas presents). After about 10 years, the first ribbon finally broke. Replaced it and the second ribbon has lasted about 7 years so far. And I almost never take my cross off--I'm so absent-minded that if I did, I'd likely forget what I had done with it.

I have found yarn to be the best in the long run.  When it finally snaps you can just re-tie it almost indefinitely.  I like to look of the gold chain more, but the advantage of the yarn is that if the cross is small (not a 20pndr) then you can wear it at all times for that extra noetic goodness.

[J Michael]

When I become properly hyperdox I will get a proper 20lb cast iron cross to chain across my chest and that I will never take off.

Ahh yes, the idea that the quality and importance of an object is directly proportional to it's degree of cumbersomosity.. A most wise approach!

 

That's longhand for "bigger is better". 

Why stop at just 20lbs?   

Piety is something you have to work your way into.

Piety?  And here I thought you were into this:

[Achronos]

Then again, I do know from experience sometimes a ring attracts people looking for nothing other than a short term affair.

When I was wearing an engagement ring (LOL) I had so many more girls hitting me up. It's got magnetic properties man.

I know a guy who wears a wedding ring, who isn't married, and does it to get girls. And he's successful at it too.

[Asteriktos]

What can we learn from this image?

- Mice like to do rev. bb curls (I'm guessing here, but it's an educated guess)
- Mice don't like ez curl bars
- Mice don't like olympic bars
- Mice have strong (stubby) arms
- Mice like working out at home (notice the lack of clothes, something that an increasing number of commercial gyms frown upon)
- Mice focus on proper form (e.g., notice the wide stance of the feet that provide stability, the straight back, etc.)

[LizaSymonenko]

I always wear my cross.  Always. 

I did take it off to touch it to holy relics once...and it never made it back around my neck.  I had it in my hand....and then chain and all was gone.  I searched high and low, and asked everyone, and bothered the priest.....and nothing.  I guess someone really was in need of a long gold chain with a cross on it.  My godfather had gifted it to me....and I was broken hearted.

Now I wear a silver cross, also gifted to me by someone else....and it only gets taken off for a cleaning once in a while.

[J Michael]

What can we learn from this image?

- Mice like to do rev. bb curls (I'm guessing here, but it's an educated guess)
- Mice don't like ez curl bars
- Mice don't like olympic bars
- Mice have strong (stubby) arms
- Mice like working out at home (notice the lack of clothes, something that an increasing number of commercial gyms frown upon)
- Mice focus on proper form (e.g., notice the wide stance of the feet that provide stability, the straight back, etc.)

You forgot (at least)  one further thing:

- Mice don't wear their crosses while working out

 

[age234]

I always wear mine, except in the shower. I switch to a wooden one when traveling because I don't feel like going through the TSA rigamarole with it.

[J Michael]

I always wear mine, except in the shower. I switch to a wooden one when traveling because I don't feel like going through the TSA rigamarole with it.

I always wear mine, except in the shower, when sleeping, or in the extremely rare event that I forget to put it on.

As I'm not a mouse and don't work out, that's not a problem. 

[Ortho_cat]

I always wear mine, except in the shower. I switch to a wooden one when traveling because I don't feel like going through the TSA rigamarole with it.

great idea

[JoeS2]

Does that include stuff like sleeping, showering, or swimming?

YUP!

[mabsoota]

traveling!
maybe the cross is why i 'beep' sometimes in airports. it's such an integral part of me, i hadn't even thought about it.
i always travel with empty pockets and my phone in my bag and no metal belts, so the occasional 'beeps' were a mystery until now...
 

[Shanghaiski]

Does that include stuff like sleeping, showering, or swimming?

I wear mine 24/7. Never had a problem.

[Shanghaiski]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

Facepalm.

[Shanghaiski]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

It's not part of their faith, and just because they do it doesn't make it acceptable.

[JamesRottnek]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

It's not part of their faith, and just because they do it doesn't make it acceptable.

Kind of like all of those blood puddings Eastern Europeans like to eat.

[Shanghaiski]

This is why we should be allowed to have tattoos. A tattoo of an Orthodox Cross would be a lot easier to have on at all times than a Cross hanging from your neck.

How are tattoos forbidden? Don't OOs get a cross tattoo'd on their wrist?

It's not part of their faith, and just because they do it doesn't make it acceptable.

Kind of like all of those blood puddings Eastern Europeans like to eat.

Yes.

[HabteSelassie]

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

There is a big white elephant in this room that married folk in particular could address, but I really shouldn't bring it up 

stay blessed,
habte selassie

[witega]

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

There is a big white elephant in this room that married folk in particular could address, but I really shouldn't bring it up 

stay blessed,
habte selassie

Don't take my ring off then either.

[mabsoota]

hmm, i know of british and irish people eating blood puddings, rather the eastern european people i know were horrified to hear of it, i don't think it's very common over there.
about tattoos, it is tattooing yourself in a pagan ceremony to respect the dead that is forbidden.
not cross tattoos.
they are cool, and make complete sense when the majority around u are trying to stifle yr culture, crush yr faith and make u a carbon copy of them. it's a sign of resistance against an anti Christian occupying force.

it started when children used to be kidnapped from Christian homes by their non Christian neighbours. when they grew up, they would have the chance to discover their former faith and return. as the kidnapping of adolescent girls still goes on today in egypt, it makes sense for the tattooing to continue. Christians who do not (yet!) live under such harsh conditions can tattoo themselves in solidarity, if they wish (it is by no means compulsory in the coptic church).

[LBK]

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

There is a big white elephant in this room that married folk in particular could address, but I really shouldn't bring it up 

stay blessed,
habte selassie

Don't take my ring off then either.

Neither do I.

[Dominika]

traveling!
maybe the cross is why i 'beep' sometimes in airports. it's such an integral part of me, i hadn't even thought about it.
i always travel with empty pockets and my phone in my bag and no metal belts, so the occasional 'beeps' were a mystery until now...
 

I have the same situation I take my cross off only for taking bath and swimming. Unfortunately, I lost my Orthodox cross 2 times in just one month during the last summer because it had fell out of the pocket (I put it when I was going to the beach).
Some years ago I've lost a medallion with the Theotokos, because the chain had broken. So I hope that I won't loose this new cross, as I was finally received into Orthodox Church

[NicholasMyra]

Nobody give JamesR any money. 

[Jason.Wike]

I used to wear mine to sleep but then a two nights a couple weeks ago I think I woke up and the chain was somehow twisted and it felt worryingly tight so I stopped. Not really interested in getting asphyxiated.

[orthonorm]

I used to wear mine to sleep but then a two nights a couple weeks ago I think I woke up and the chain was somehow twisted and it felt worryingly tight so I stopped. Not really interested in getting asphyxiated.

Ain't going to happen. Have you ever strangled someone unconscious? Or been rendered so?

You really should enjoy the pleasure of both.

If you had, you would not worry about such nonsense.

[Big Chris]

Ya know, the whole getting a cross tattooed on your wrist thing has some appeal to it.

[JamesRottnek]

Ya know, the whole getting a cross tattooed on your wrist thing has some appeal to it.

Or you could just stick your arms out horizontally and BE a cross.

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