Ok, so it is my understanding that the big 4 (as I will refer to them as) are Dogma in the RC church. I just spent the past 2 hours reading through old threads on all 4 & I cant find anything that deals directly with my question:
I was recently informed that (for example) the I.C. Is a dogma, as declared in the 4th Lateran. BUT it is not dogmatic in the sense that it is necessary to believe for our salvation. Is this true for all 4?? How does that even work??
Uh...how can a *dogma* not be *dogmatic*??
I was recently informed that pigs can fly. Does that mean they really can? Pretty unlikely. My point is--who informed you of this and what is the source of *their* information? I find that when it comes to questions about dogma and doctrine of the Catholic Church it really is best to refer to reliable Catholic resources, such as the Catechism of the Catholic Church or various Vatican documents such as were posted earlier on this thread.
(If your source was a priest, well...hey, even a priest can be wrong--Catholic OR Orthodox.)
My source was a Dominican scholar I met the other day. BELIEVE me I'm having. The same issue you're. The brief discussion we had led to him saying "yes its dogmatic, but not in the sense that it is required for salvation. We just understand dogma differently & there are degrees of dogmati statements.".
I didn't have time to pursue it further, & it's been REALLY bothering me, so I thought I'd ask the rest of you for some help here. Are there degrees of dogmatics in RC? I would have no idea where to start with that
I should have added, "Even scholars can be wrong". Go to reliable, magisterial sources for your information. Scholars, even Dominicans, even extremely eminent ones, are not the Magisterium of the Church, and do not define doctrine or dogma. And, depending on their "politics" may have agendas and axes to grind.
My wife was educated for 12 years in the Catholic educational system. During the 1960's a group of very highly educated Jesuit (eeek!) priests and scholars were brought into her high school to teach them religion. One of the first things they "taught" was--"You can forget everything that was written in the Bible. We'll teach you what's what." OY VEY IST MIR!! Yeah, priests and scholars (of any communion), regardless of the extent of their knowledge and education, most certainly *can* be wrong!
If something is a defined *dogma*, it is, by definition and regardless of how any given Joe Schmoe individual, scholar or otherwise, may "understand" it, *dogmatic*.
You may want to read, from here; http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a2.htm#88
, about dogma in the Catholic Church.