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Gay Pride in Belgrade
« on: May 22, 2012, 06:05:20 PM »
The organizing committee of Belgrade Pride 2012 has announced that this year's gay parade would be held on October 6.
But they said the "march" would be one event in an eight-day festival.
"This year, the concept has been changed, so the 'famous march' will be held on October 6, while we will make a festival that will last eight days. We will occupy the city for eight days, because this city belongs to us," said committee member Boban Stojanović.
He also specified that the festival would last from September 30 until October 7.
Stojanović told reporters that the parade would be held under the slogan "love, faith, hope".
The authorities canceled last year's gay parade citing security concerns.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=05&dd=22&nav_id=80384


What a provocation !  >:(
« Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 06:06:47 PM by Immanuel »

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 06:09:32 PM »
We'll live.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 06:17:05 PM »
The organizing committee of Belgrade Pride 2012 has announced that this year's gay parade would be held on October 6.
But they said the "march" would be one event in an eight-day festival.
"This year, the concept has been changed, so the 'famous march' will be held on October 6, while we will make a festival that will last eight days. We will occupy the city for eight days, because this city belongs to us," said committee member Boban Stojanović.
He also specified that the festival would last from September 30 until October 7.
Stojanović told reporters that the parade would be held under the slogan "love, faith, hope".
The authorities canceled last year's gay parade citing security concerns.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=05&dd=22&nav_id=80384


What a provocation !  >:(
The Left came and claimed that this city [Chicago] belonged to them.  Didn't quite work out that way.

I trust the Serbs will do the right thing.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 10:54:41 PM »
The organizing committee of Belgrade Pride 2012 has announced that this year's gay parade would be held on October 6.
But they said the "march" would be one event in an eight-day festival.
"This year, the concept has been changed, so the 'famous march' will be held on October 6, while we will make a festival that will last eight days. We will occupy the city for eight days, because this city belongs to us," said committee member Boban Stojanović.
He also specified that the festival would last from September 30 until October 7.
Stojanović told reporters that the parade would be held under the slogan "love, faith, hope".
The authorities canceled last year's gay parade citing security concerns.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=05&dd=22&nav_id=80384


What a provocation !  >:(
The Left came and claimed that this city [Chicago] belonged to them.  Didn't quite work out that way.

I trust the Serbs will do the right thing.
You mean those people, as citizens of Serbia, should not have the right to organize a march in their own country?

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 05:10:32 AM »
What a provocation !  >:(

I don't see any.

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 05:27:53 AM »
What a provocation !  >:(

I don't see any.

Neither do I.  It isn't like they've stormed the cathedrals and begun to engage in relations during a liturgy; that would be provocation.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2012, 06:33:34 AM »
This is an attack on Orthodox people. You see no problem in occupation of city by these sodomites?
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2012, 06:37:02 AM »
What a provocation !  >:(

I don't see any.

Neither do I.

Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2012, 06:39:37 AM »
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Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.
It's sad to see that Serbia tolerates public immorality.

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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 06:47:19 AM »
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Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.
It's sad to see that Serbia tolerates public immorality.

So lying, gossiping and judging ones neighbour should be outlawed?
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2012, 06:51:54 AM »
This is an attack on Orthodox people.

How are you being attacked?

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 07:13:12 AM »
Emotionally, spiritually and psychologically.

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 07:14:42 AM »
This is an attack on Orthodox people. You see no problem in occupation of city by these sodomites?

I had no idea these homosexuals were raping the heterosexual population of Belgrade!  I demand the Serbian police stop them at once!

Seriously, these "sodomites" (I've never quite understood why people focus on the "men want sex with men" part of the story, when the really interesting thing is the "entire town wants to rape two visitors" part of the story) are not attacking Orthodox people.  They are not occupying a city; they reside in the city.  This is no more an attack on Orthodoxy than the existence of other religions.  

If your faith is so incredibly weak that homosexuals protesting makes you feel attacked, I encourage you to pray more; the presence of sinners really should not lead us to fall into sin, which is the only possible way I can understand this idea that the gays are attacking Orthodoxy.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 07:15:43 AM »
Emotionally, spiritually and psychologically.

Really?  Are the gays verbally assaulting you?  Are they taunting you?  Are they making obscene gestures toward you?  Such things are normally not permissible in public, so I encourage you to go see your nearest law enforcement official, or sue the gays for harassment.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2012, 07:21:28 AM »
Emotionally, spiritually and psychologically.

Have you considered coming out of the closet if you find homosexuality so fascinating?

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 07:25:19 AM »
I had no idea these homosexuals were raping the heterosexual population of Belgrade!


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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 03:58:45 PM »

Seriously, these "sodomites" (I've never quite understood why people focus on the "men want sex with men" part of the story, when the really interesting thing is the "entire town wants to rape two visitors" part of the story) are not attacking Orthodox people.  They are not occupying a city; they reside in the city.  This is no more an attack on Orthodoxy than the existence of other religions.  
Reside in the city? So, why do they need promotion in public?

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If your faith is so incredibly weak that homosexuals protesting makes you feel attacked, I encourage you to pray more; the presence of sinners really should not lead us to fall into sin, which is the only possible way I can understand this idea that the gays are attacking Orthodoxy.
I didn't say that my faith was incredibly weak. Serbs don't need to promote immorality in public. I do not want my town to be Sodom.


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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 04:10:46 PM »

Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.

Please enlighten us on what exactly entails "expressing" one's "sexual orientation".

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 04:12:34 PM »
Emotionally, spiritually and psychologically.
Buddy, if that is all it takes, you might want to consider getting some thicker skin.

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 04:15:56 PM »
Ah, another day of fun on the nominally Orthodox forum - the true vision of American Orthodoxy.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 04:20:11 PM »
I expect the response in San Francisco, where I just was yesterday, would be (shoulders shrugging) "What's a little outdoor anal sex between friends?"  ;)

However, I'd be shocked if sodomite Serbs* would try such displays in Belgrade. Not until that city is as "liberated" as SF.

* Sorry, the alliterative possibilities were irresistible. What did Oscar Wilde say about temptation again?

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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 04:44:08 PM »


Perhaps the best post I've seen on a homosexuality thread--and there's been a lot of them!
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 05:00:40 PM »
Emotionally, spiritually and psychologically.

Really?  Are the gays verbally assaulting you?  Are they taunting you?  Are they making obscene gestures toward you?  Such things are normally not permissible in public

such things happen in boys town in Chicago a lot.

so I encourage you to go see your nearest law enforcement official, or sue the gays for harassment.
Yeah, that would get far in Crook County, SF or NYC.
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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2012, 05:04:38 PM »
This is an attack on Orthodox people. You see no problem in occupation of city by these sodomites?

I had no idea these homosexuals were raping the heterosexual population of Belgrade!  I demand the Serbian police stop them at once!

Seriously, these "sodomites" (I've never quite understood why people focus on the "men want sex with men" part of the story, when the really interesting thing is the "entire town wants to rape two visitors" part of the story) are not attacking Orthodox people.  They are not occupying a city; they reside in the city.  This is no more an attack on Orthodoxy than the existence of other religions.  

If your faith is so incredibly weak that homosexuals protesting makes you feel attacked, I encourage you to pray more; the presence of sinners really should not lead us to fall into sin, which is the only possible way I can understand this idea that the gays are attacking Orthodoxy.
Yes, well the massive law suit going on between the Vatican and the US government reminds us that any Church minding its own business is not safe from the Left's agenda.  Loving the sinner isn't enough: you have to embrace and celebrate their sin. And yes, that is exactly what the agenda is pushing, which a cursory perusal of what they are insisting be taught in school amply demonstrates.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2012, 05:08:59 PM »
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Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.
It's sad to see that Serbia tolerates public immorality.

So lying, gossiping and judging ones neighbour should be outlawed?
It's called libel if it is written, defamation if it is not.
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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2012, 05:13:02 PM »
The organizing committee of Belgrade Pride 2012 has announced that this year's gay parade would be held on October 6.
But they said the "march" would be one event in an eight-day festival.
"This year, the concept has been changed, so the 'famous march' will be held on October 6, while we will make a festival that will last eight days. We will occupy the city for eight days, because this city belongs to us," said committee member Boban Stojanović.
He also specified that the festival would last from September 30 until October 7.
Stojanović told reporters that the parade would be held under the slogan "love, faith, hope".
The authorities canceled last year's gay parade citing security concerns.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=05&dd=22&nav_id=80384


What a provocation !  >:(
The Left came and claimed that this city [Chicago] belonged to them.  Didn't quite work out that way.

I trust the Serbs will do the right thing.
You mean those people, as citizens of Serbia, should not have the right to organize a march in their own country?

I trust the Serbs will do the right thing.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2012, 05:47:17 PM »
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Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.
It's sad to see that Serbia tolerates public immorality.

So lying, gossiping and judging ones neighbour should be outlawed?
It's called libel if it is written, defamation if it is not.

Really? I thought we called that TMZ and US Weekly?  ???
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2012, 05:57:08 PM »

Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.

Please enlighten us on what exactly entails "expressing" one's "sexual orientation".

It means imposing your sexual disorders on others no matter how much it offends them.  Rub it in their face... ::)

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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2012, 06:11:57 PM »

Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.

Please enlighten us on what exactly entails "expressing" one's "sexual orientation".

It means imposing your sexual disorders on others no matter how much it offends them.  Rub it in their face... ::)

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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2012, 06:12:54 PM »

Yes, well the massive law suit going on between the Vatican and the US government

Where is the Vatican suing the US government? In the UN? The WTO?

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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2012, 06:16:11 PM »
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Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.
It's sad to see that Serbia tolerates public immorality.

So lying, gossiping and judging ones neighbour should be outlawed?
It's called libel if it is written, defamation if it is not.

Really? I thought we called that TMZ and US Weekly?  ???
Could be.  I ignore both.
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2012, 06:16:39 PM »

Yes, well the massive law suit going on between the Vatican and the US government

Where is the Vatican suing the US government? In the UN? The WTO?

People can't let that whole figure of speech go no matter the context.
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Yes, well the massive law suit going on between the Vatican and the US government

Where is the Vatican suing the US government? In the UN? The WTO?
Federal District Court.
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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2012, 06:50:28 PM »
In other news...

San Francisco official claims he contacted Harvey Milk through a Ouija board

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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A San Francisco supervisor says he consulted a Ouija board before city leaders voted on whether to recommend naming a Navy ship after slain gay rights activist Harvey Milk.

Supervisor John Avalos tells the San Francisco Chronicle that he believes he made contact with Milk's spirit and that Milk spelled out letters indicating: "Good riddance to don't ask, don't tell."

The Board of Supervisors approved the non-binding resolution Tuesday on a 9-2 vote.
Milk was a city supervisor and former naval officer. He was fatally shot in 1978 by Dan White.

Supporters say the naming would honor the repeal of the 'don't ask, don't tell" law barring open homosexuality in the military.

Opponents say Milk opposed war and it would be inappropriate to name a warship after him.

http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_20690993/san-francisco-official-claims-he-contacted-harvey-milk?source

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Who wants to bet they are going to put his name on a cruiser?  ;)


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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2012, 07:04:20 PM »
In other news...

San Francisco official claims he contacted Harvey Milk through a Ouija board

Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A San Francisco supervisor says he consulted a Ouija board before city leaders voted on whether to recommend naming a Navy ship after slain gay rights activist Harvey Milk.

Supervisor John Avalos tells the San Francisco Chronicle that he believes he made contact with Milk's spirit and that Milk spelled out letters indicating: "Good riddance to don't ask, don't tell."

The Board of Supervisors approved the non-binding resolution Tuesday on a 9-2 vote.
Milk was a city supervisor and former naval officer. He was fatally shot in 1978 by Dan White.

Supporters say the naming would honor the repeal of the 'don't ask, don't tell" law barring open homosexuality in the military.

Opponents say Milk opposed war and it would be inappropriate to name a warship after him.

http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_20690993/san-francisco-official-claims-he-contacted-harvey-milk?source

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Who wants to bet they are going to put his name on a cruiser?  ;)


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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2012, 10:16:10 PM »

Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.

Please enlighten us on what exactly entails "expressing" one's "sexual orientation".

It means imposing your sexual disorders on others no matter how much it offends them.  Rub it in their face... ::)

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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2012, 11:25:07 PM »
Emotionally, spiritually and psychologically.
These sort of people feel persecuted once they can no longer tell others what to do, (micro)manage their lives etc. 

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2012, 11:25:07 PM »
I expect the response in San Francisco, where I just was yesterday, would be (shoulders shrugging) "What's a little outdoor anal sex between friends?"  ;)

However, I'd be shocked if sodomite Serbs* would try such displays in Belgrade. Not until that city is as "liberated" as SF.

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You have a fixation on anal stuff. So, what's that seminary again?

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2012, 02:09:04 AM »
I expect the response in San Francisco, where I just was yesterday, would be (shoulders shrugging) "What's a little outdoor anal sex between friends?"  ;)

However, I'd be shocked if sodomite Serbs* would try such displays in Belgrade. Not until that city is as "liberated" as SF.

* Sorry, the alliterative possibilities were irresistible. What did Oscar Wilde say about temptation again?
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2012, 02:44:26 AM »

Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.

Please enlighten us on what exactly entails "expressing" one's "sexual orientation".

Openly admitting homosexuality and being proud of it. While I have Christian view of homosexuality and while I find being proud of ones sexual orientation a little weird I don't think state should enforce Christian views on others nor should state enforce non-Christian views on the Church. Freedom is a nice thing to have.

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Me neither. It's rather nice to see that Serbia is tolerant enough that these people feel safe enough to express their sexual orientation without fear of violence etc.
It's sad to see that Serbia tolerates public immorality.

So lying, gossiping and judging ones neighbour should be outlawed?
It's called libel if it is written, defamation if it is not.

That's pretty narrow view of those sins.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2012, 03:45:49 AM »
This is an attack on Orthodox people. You see no problem in occupation of city by these sodomites?

People are traveling to your city fo rthe express purpose of being cruel to the widows and orphans in your midst? How odd.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2012, 04:13:25 AM »
Everyday in summer looks like a heterosexual pride parade in Ukraine.  I doubt many of the posters complaining of their oppression by gays would be offended. 

I'm not a prude, but context does matter.  If you are going to the beach, wear clothes appropriate to the beach.  You don't need to wear a miniskirt with high heels to attend my classes.

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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2012, 05:44:00 AM »
Everyday in summer looks like a heterosexual pride parade in Ukraine.  I doubt many of the posters complaining of their oppression by gays would be offended. 

I'm not a prude, but context does matter.  If you are going to the beach, wear clothes appropriate to the beach.  You don't need to wear a miniskirt with high heels to attend my classes.

It really is a shame how modesty has all but disappeared outside Amish communities.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2012, 08:31:16 PM »
Serbia must not stand by and let her cities turn into Sodom and Gomorrah. Too often is the cross trampled on in the name of "love" and "tolerance." If we truly loved them, we would seek their salvation, and not permit such things. Standing idly by while people promote sin is hate to the core.
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Re: Gay Pride in Belgrade
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2012, 08:53:40 PM »
So if they don't get to have a parade, this will make them not be gay or something? Do you just want to pretend they are not there?

What exactly do you suggest one should *do* with them? And what are you going to do about your own sins? I can't remember anywhere in the Bible where it says all you have to do to get to Heaven is be a heterosexual.
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