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« on: May 18, 2012, 07:01:09 PM »

Hello! I am finally coming out of perpetual lurkdom to introduce myself. I've been enjoying reading this forum for a while and have learned a lot because of you all.

My name is Kelly and I was raised a nominal Lutheran. We went to church sporadically but I wouldn't consider my family to be religious in a sense. From about the age of 11 and onwards, I became increasingly interested in the Catholic church. I think it started because I was so into stories about saints. When I was 20, I entered RCIA and became Catholic officially at the March vigil in 2008.

Now, at 25, the more the read the more I wonder if I made a mistake. I feel like my personal spirituality is more attuned to Orthodoxy. I'm going through a really hard time with discerning what in the world I'm supposed to do. I feel like God is pulling me towards Orthodoxy but I just don't know.

I have the support of my family and my closest Catholic friend so that is good. I would love to make some Orthodox friends here.

Any prayers would definitely be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2012, 07:56:21 PM »

I was waiting for someone less scary to say hello, but I'll go ahead and say welcome. angel

(btw, I was Lutheran and went to one of the Vatican's schools.  RICA couldn't have been that big a mistake, because you are here).
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2012, 08:21:33 PM »

Welcome to the forum.   Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2012, 09:35:32 PM »

Hello! I am finally coming out of perpetual lurkdom to introduce myself. I've been enjoying reading this forum for a while and have learned a lot because of you all.

My name is Kelly and I was raised a nominal Lutheran. We went to church sporadically but I wouldn't consider my family to be religious in a sense. From about the age of 11 and onwards, I became increasingly interested in the Catholic church. I think it started because I was so into stories about saints. When I was 20, I entered RCIA and became Catholic officially at the March vigil in 2008.

Now, at 25, the more the read the more I wonder if I made a mistake.

Hi Kelly. I can't tell you that it was a mistake to join Catholicism; but I would just like to say that, after participating in a lot of discussions, I've come to the conclusion that converts from protestantism should investigate both Catholicism and Orthodoxy before choosing one of them. (Unfortunately, that rarely happens.)

Welcome to the forum!

A known Roman Catholic has no business making such a suggestion on the Orthodox Convert Issues board. Please refrain from doing so in the future.  Thank you, Thomas Convert Issues Forum Moderator.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2012, 09:43:51 PM »

I honestly can't remember really looking into Orthodoxy. I was certainly aware of it (I was/am a big Romanov nerd) but I had been convinced that Catholicism was THE Church.

I know it's silly to feel this way but I'm almost embarrassed - I went through all that to become Catholic and now I will probably end up going through it again.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2012, 10:04:33 PM »

I honestly can't remember really looking into Orthodoxy. I was certainly aware of it (I was/am a big Romanov nerd) but I had been convinced that Catholicism was THE Church.

Since you identified yourself as being from the Archdiocese of Baltimore, if you like Russian Orthodoxy, there's Holy Trinity Russian Orthodox Church near Johns Hopkins.

I know it's silly to feel this way but I'm almost embarrassed - I went through all that to become Catholic and now I will probably end up going through it again.  Embarrassed

The Orthodox Cathechism usually takes a year; however, because you're Catholic, there are some similarities which could shorten the Cathechism period.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2012, 10:24:05 PM »

SolEX01,

Thanks for your reply. I'm aware of that church - beautiful, isn't it? I love, love, love Russian Orthodoxy. Ideally, that's definitely the one I would like to go to but the closest EO church is a Ukrainian parish. It's a small mission church.

This whole thing is an emotional roller coaster. The other day, when I finally worked up the nerve to tell my mom, "Um... I think God is calling me to be Orthodox," I cried tears of joy.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2012, 10:39:19 PM »

SolEX01,

Thanks for your reply. I'm aware of that church - beautiful, isn't it?

I like Holy Trinity although I've attended the Russian Festival.   Smiley

I love, love, love Russian Orthodoxy. Ideally, that's definitely the one I would like to go to but the closest EO church is a Ukranian parish called Four Evangelists. It's a small mission church.

I've heard of the Church - do they still hold services at a middle school?

This whole thing is an emotional roller coaster. The other day, when I finally worked up the nerve to tell my mom, "Um... I think God is calling me to be Orthodox," I cried tears of joy.

Take it one day at a time.   Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2012, 10:44:17 PM »

SolEX01,

Thanks for your reply. I'm aware of that church - beautiful, isn't it?

I like Holy Trinity although I've attended the Russian Festival.   Smiley

I love, love, love Russian Orthodoxy. Ideally, that's definitely the one I would like to go to but the closest EO church is a Ukranian parish called Four Evangelists. It's a small mission church.

I've heard of the Church - do they still hold services at a middle school?

This whole thing is an emotional roller coaster. The other day, when I finally worked up the nerve to tell my mom, "Um... I think God is calling me to be Orthodox," I cried tears of joy.

Take it one day at a time.   Smiley

They were originally at a Catholic high school but they have their own building now. It's not actually in a church though, unfortunately.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2012, 11:00:20 PM »

They were originally at a Catholic high school but they have their own building now. It's not actually in a church though, unfortunately.

Does that impact your examination of the Orthodox faith?
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2012, 12:13:18 AM »

Nope, not at all.
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2012, 01:25:08 AM »

Hello&welcome Kelly!

I too am a RC inquiring into the Orthodox faith.  I'm sure if I had known about Orthodoxy prior to RCIA, I would have chosen Orthodoxy.  But I must say, Roman Catholicism was not a waste of time.  Should I leave the RCC, I will not leave empty handed.  In every religious and/or spiritual path that I have walked, it has all been to come closer to Him.  If I am not sure of nothing else, of this I am sure.

However, I can relate to your inner feelings...I think. I first discovered the OC on Passion Friday, I stumbled across Coniaris Introducing the Orthodox Church.  I devoured it, out of order.  I was left very much conflicted, I was overjoyed and I was a bit upset.  Joyful for finally, my inner thoughts&beliefs were expressed within a Christian faith.  Upset well because, really must I again go through an official 'convert' ceremony?!  In spite of this inner unrest, I decided to peruse this new curiosity of the OC.

I attend DL as much as possible, and I just had the pleasure of Vespers this pass Wednesday for the first time.  I also follow a very simple Orthodox prayer rule.  Like you, the Orthodox spirituality draws me near.  Will I convert, I don't know.  I am open to conversion, and yet I have not requested to join the catechumenate.  Interestingly enough, whenever I think of going to church it's always Orthodox service.  I have attended Mass only once since Easter.  It's all very beyond my comprehension, and yet I fell secure.

All this to say Kelly, don't put the cart before the horse.  Slow&steady, be gentle with yourself.  Some are born Orthodox, others come home after a long trip.  One is not better than the other, all things accordingly.  And the RCC, IMHO, is a great stepping stool.  Should one be so moved to continue on... I think being a practicing RC is not time wasted in the least, quite the opposite.


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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2012, 07:45:27 AM »

Should I leave the RCC, I will not leave empty handed. 

Margarita!

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2012, 08:36:28 AM »

Hello Kelly! I am getting ready to  be made a catechumen. I was raised Roman Catholic. I have to say that the most helpful thing that a person can do is pray. When I first started looking into Orthodoxy, I read and studied and studied and read. I confused myself quite a bit because I was determined to figure out whether Catholicism or Orthodoxy had the fullness of truth. In the end, prayer is really what brought me to where I am. I am not discouraging study, just take everything one day at a time and ease into this. Good Luck!
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2012, 10:02:08 AM »

Hello, all. This is my first attempt as i only have been member for some days.

Up till this date, i have been a roman catholic (not roaming) for 1 1/2 years now. But for the last almost seven months i knew something was not right and during the last months (three-four) i have begun to experience that the doubts and spiritual dryness i had experienced was because my current path did not feel like the right one. Questions about the papacy, if Peter`s chair in Rome was the correct one and that the RCC was the unbroken one, came up to mind all the time.

First i tried to deny it all, cried a lot, prayed and asked God why he kept showing me all these signs of west and orthodoxy thoughts and images in my mind. So i forced myself to begin reading, take part in discussions, ask some orthodox people for their opinions while i read
and inquired.

From day to day, it becomes more and more obvious to me that the deep traditions is in the orthodoxy and the eastern part of the church. I have begun reading history, getting a vague idea of the saints like St. Basil The Great and John Crysostomos. When my best friend told me: Look, Tommy - you have had an orthodox attitude for a long time, is not on time for you to figure this out?

So three weeks ago, i did and went to this russian orthodox parish downtown as they have open church on wednesdays from 2pm to 6pm.
I met this very nice lady there and asked what steps you have to take if you wish to become orthodox or learn the orthodox faith to do.

So i have got some books, a prayer corner i have had for almost two years (but it has become a bit more eastern now) and i have made a daily prayer rule which really makes wonders (before i did pray just eve prayers and rosary before or after mass). Well, two weeks ago i attended my first vigil and was struck by it`s beauty and simpleness at the same time. I went back last week and attended my first divine liturgy last sunday. Not all of it was easy to understand as it is in church slavonic, but i understand the beauty of it. The atmosphere, the holyness, the traditions and the sense of beauty vs simplicity and a very strong feeling of God`s presence made me feel calm and happy.

In a totally new and unknown landscape with a language i do not know. In tiny Norway. Some would call me crazy of my friends and i guess they also do. But this feels much better than any roman catholic mass i ever have attended before. I have yet to meet the priest, but do understand that i wish to learn the orthodox faith to know. Reading, praying, learning and attending services is what i have been adviced to do and being patient.

Any other good advices you can give to newbee as i am?

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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2012, 11:10:40 AM »

Greek Yogurt- YES!  Prayer along with study, but prayer is essential!  I must sing with you, pray is the action that has been the steady boat upon this wave.  Many blessings&years as you embark upon the path of catechumen!


Tommelomsky- Welcome!  The first time I attended DL, I was so lost that I closed the book.  I allowed myself to just be.  To be present with the parishioners, the Fathers, the sacrament, the space, and the words.  I took in all the sights, smells, and joined in to recite prayers that I knew from heart.  The next Sunday I was lost but a few times for a few seconds, and quickly found my place.  I agree with you, there is something in the simplism(although the entire service is far from being simplistic)&the consistency that allows for depth of experience.  Your friend's words were my inner thoughts after reading, Introducing the Orthodox Church.  And it was with that thought, that I went to see.  As I am in the same boat with you, my advice is little to give&what I have found useful.  Keep your attendance as regular as possible.  May be start learning short prayers in Slavonic?  And/or may be learning the format of DL and the words in your mother tongue, so that you know what is being said?  May be visit another church that speaks Norwegian?  And as Greek Yogurt as said, prayer and prayer.  There is a great simple rule of prayer posted as a sticky in this sub-forum, Getting Started with a Daily Prayer Rule.  I started with that one, but have since moved on.


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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2012, 06:41:23 PM »

Thank you so much. It is probably a normal thing to feel a little lost the first time. Knowing that i have been attending many catholic masses over the  last two+ years gives me a smaller idea about the order of the liturgy. But like you said, i just put the paper i had printed out away and was in "one" with the other parishoners instead and will take the next step in some hours. I have however a book about the divine liturgy in my native tongue that is one of the things i will use early in my studies.

The sights, smells and being in a church that makes me feel so home, it makes me smile and my soul must be singing so much these days. Smiley I have been attending the vigil that the parish has on saturdays three times now and some people have already begun to say hi and smile. It is so nice and i like it there.

Language barriers does not bother me as i am eager to learn. Not just the order of vigil, the dl or parish life, but also the language. But in the tempo it needs.

What pleasantly comes to mind is that the orthodox culture is very rich and not simplistic but beauty, but in it`s own way there are some simplicity in it`s being too. Hard to explain excactly how. The depth, tradition and culture makes me already now understand how unique this is and how greatful I am for God to bring me here, on this path.

Attending services i will and can`t hardly wait for divine liturgy in hours. I feel much like the kid saying: mum, can i have some more candy please? Short slavonic prayers would be nice to learn, but i wonder how to be able to read them as it is probably in writing like cyrillic. Or? I will learn the divine liturgy in my native tongue too and once a month we have divine liturgy in my native tongue.

Found a prayer rule from a website called prayerlife and use a prayerbook for daily morning and eve prayers. Just three week in my inquirery-process i see how much a steady prayer-rule gives me and just looking forward to read, learn and hopefully (if God wills it) grow in my spirituality.

Blessings from Oslo, Norway.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2012, 06:52:39 PM »

Hello&welcome Kelly!

I too am a RC inquiring into the Orthodox faith.  I'm sure if I had known about Orthodoxy prior to RCIA, I would have chosen Orthodoxy.  But I must say, Roman Catholicism was not a waste of time.  Should I leave the RCC, I will not leave empty handed.  In every religious and/or spiritual path that I have walked, it has all been to come closer to Him.  If I am not sure of nothing else, of this I am sure.

However, I can relate to your inner feelings...I think. I first discovered the OC on Passion Friday, I stumbled across Coniaris Introducing the Orthodox Church.  I devoured it, out of order.  I was left very much conflicted, I was overjoyed and I was a bit upset.  Joyful for finally, my inner thoughts&beliefs were expressed within a Christian faith.  Upset well because, really must I again go through an official 'convert' ceremony?!  In spite of this inner unrest, I decided to peruse this new curiosity of the OC.

I attend DL as much as possible, and I just had the pleasure of Vespers this pass Wednesday for the first time.  I also follow a very simple Orthodox prayer rule.  Like you, the Orthodox spirituality draws me near.  Will I convert, I don't know.  I am open to conversion, and yet I have not requested to join the catechumenate.  Interestingly enough, whenever I think of going to church it's always Orthodox service.  I have attended Mass only once since Easter.  It's all very beyond my comprehension, and yet I fell secure.

All this to say Kelly, don't put the cart before the horse.  Slow&steady, be gentle with yourself.  Some are born Orthodox, others come home after a long trip.  One is not better than the other, all things accordingly.  And the RCC, IMHO, is a great stepping stool.  Should one be so moved to continue on... I think being a practicing RC is not time wasted in the least, quite the opposite.


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Thank you so much for this insightful post.

I'm really humbled by how welcoming and compassionate you guys have been. I will keep you all updated on my journey.  Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2012, 06:58:26 PM »

Hello Kelly and welcome from another greenie or newbie. I am sure that this forum could be such an inspiring place for a new and interesting journey.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2012, 03:43:20 PM »

Just ordered a bunch of Orthodox books off of Amazon! Now I can highlight as I please (I don't think the library would've appreciate me defacing their books).

Tommelomsky, good luck to you on your journey.
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2012, 08:44:33 AM »

I begin that task next month, purchasing books!  I have managed to find all the highly recommended 101 books at my public library.  I will have read them all by the end of this month.  I have an appointment with the priest to discuss what's next on the reading list. Interestingly enough, all the 101 books were donated to the library from the church I attend.  I didn't realize this at first, until I flipped through the first cover pgs. and spotted their name tag!

What made the list to buy?  I hate shopping, but buying books and certain other items, I absolutely love!
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2012, 10:58:09 AM »

I for one got recommened a list by a lady that runs the norwegian association in the ROCOR parish i am attending and asked someone in another forum for help. Today i have also told the priest at my current RC by e-mail that i find it hard to work there while wanting to spend
time on reading, learning and attending services in the russian orthodox parish i do now.

Please say a prayer for me, as i start a brand new path.
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Dear Tommelomsky ,

Lord Have mercy.  Lord Have Mercy. Lord Have Mercy.

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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2012, 12:21:09 PM »

I begin that task next month, purchasing books!  I have managed to find all the highly recommended 101 books at my public library.  I will have read them all by the end of this month.  I have an appointment with the priest to discuss what's next on the reading list. Interestingly enough, all the 101 books were donated to the library from the church I attend.  I didn't realize this at first, until I flipped through the first cover pgs. and spotted their name tag!

What made the list to buy?  I hate shopping, but buying books and certain other items, I absolutely love!

Hi Margarita,

I bought The Sayings of the Desert Fathers (tr. Benedicta Ward), The Orthodox Church by Ware (I've already read this from the library, now I'll have my own copy to highlight as I please Smiley), and Becoming Orthodox: A Journey to the Ancient Christian Faith by Gilquist! The only Orthodox books I have as of right now are a book of akathists from Jordanville and the Orthodox Study Bible.
 
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2012, 08:48:27 AM »

Great choices!  They are on my list, too.  My first purchase will have to be Orthodox Spirituality by Metropolitan of Nafpaktos Hierotheos  Wink  The only Orthodox booklet I have is the, Morning&Evening prayers section from the Old Othrodox Prayer Book (Old Rite Russian).  I intend to purchase the entire book, but I must pace myself so...  A number of the books I want to read are available online, so my first purchase is going to be a small one. 

I haven't decided on which Bible to buy just yet.  So many options!  I want to hold out for the Orthodox full translation of both OT&NT with the LXX, whenever it should come  Wink  I joke, another question to discuss with my priest.  For now I'm using online sources&The New American Bible.

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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2012, 10:32:15 AM »

Kelly,
I just recently converted from RCC myself. It was an extremely difficult discernment process for me and even more difficult to tell my RCC friends, but I am so grateful God gave me the grace to follow His will.

Please feel free to send me a PM if you have any specific questions.
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2012, 10:54:43 AM »

Little update on my end: at my RCC parish, they care so much for me and are dependent on my volounteer work that they want me around, even if they realize that i have lost the feelings i used to have for the RC and that it is a bit more on "professional level" now.

At my end, i expect this to be a long road and probably a challenging one too. But so far: i can say this, going to vigils and divine liturgy is just fantastic. I am bits by bits getting the hang of it and it is like the child on christmas eve: mom, can i have another gift? Carrying the cross was never easy. So did and do the Lord say to us. And i don`t want it to be easy either: as it is a commitment for life once you take it.

This does feel right and in the russian-orthodox parish, people begin to say hi (after just three weeks). That is so nice. Some would say it is unwise of me, but i am in a discovery phase and do not yet need to take a decision. In time, sure, if God wills it.
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I haven't decided on which Bible to buy just yet.  So many options!  I want to hold out for the Orthodox full translation of both OT&NT with the LXX, whenever it should come  Wink  I joke, another question to discuss with my priest.  For now I'm using online sources&The New American Bible.

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I honestly can't remember really looking into Orthodoxy. I was certainly aware of it (I was/am a big Romanov nerd) but I had been convinced that Catholicism was THE Church.

I know it's silly to feel this way but I'm almost embarrassed - I went through all that to become Catholic and now I will probably end up going through it again.  Embarrassed

I wholeheartedly empathize.  I sacrificed a lot to become Catholic because I was once convinced that it was THE Church, accepting some apologist's claim that Orthodoxy was in schism from the RCC.  This, combined with the paucity of Orthodoxy in my state and the fact that at least Catholicism wasn't Protestantism, more or less directed my decision.  And now I get to revisit practically the same catechesis again.  Not that that's a terrible thing because we Christians can always stand to learn more about our faith, but it seems a bit like a blow below the belt when the Orthodox priest appeals to me for clarification on certain topics.  I have been told here by members of OC.net I could stand to learn obedience and humility, and I don't doubt that at all, but it's going to be an expensive lesson considering the distance of my parish and the frequency of classes.  Really, given there's no logical reason for me have to go through the catechumenate, the catechumenate will be nothing more than an endurance test for me.
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Hello! I am finally coming out of perpetual lurkdom to introduce myself. I've been enjoying reading this forum for a while and have learned a lot because of you all.

My name is Kelly and I was raised a nominal Lutheran. We went to church sporadically but I wouldn't consider my family to be religious in a sense. From about the age of 11 and onwards, I became increasingly interested in the Catholic church. I think it started because I was so into stories about saints. When I was 20, I entered RCIA and became Catholic officially at the March vigil in 2008.

Now, at 25, the more the read the more I wonder if I made a mistake.

Hi Kelly. I can't tell you that it was a mistake to join Catholicism; but I would just like to say that, after participating in a lot of discussions, I've come to the conclusion that converts from protestantism should investigate both Catholicism and Orthodoxy before choosing one of them. (Unfortunately, that rarely happens.)

Welcome to the forum!

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Alright, that's fair enough.

A question about your first sentence: Do you mean Roman as in Western?
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Glad to see other RCC'ers in the same position I'm in.

On an interesting side note: today I was reading Introducing the Orthodox Church by Fr. Coniaris while I was waiting to donate blood, and a gentleman started asking me questions about the book I was reading. I learned that he was a recent convert to the Orthodox Church from Presbyterianism. Just thought it was cool to meet someone in that manner.
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Glad to see other RCC'ers in the same position I'm in.

On an interesting side note: today I was reading Introducing the Orthodox Church by Fr. Coniaris while I was waiting to donate blood, and a gentleman started asking me questions about the book I was reading. I learned that he was a recent convert to the Orthodox Church from Presbyterianism. Just thought it was cool to meet someone in that manner.

I just picked up that book yesterday after liturgy.
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I haven't decided on which Bible to buy just yet.  So many options!  I want to hold out for the Orthodox full translation of both OT&NT with the LXX, whenever it should come  Wink  I joke, another question to discuss with my priest.  For now I'm using online sources&The New American Bible.

Happy Happy reading!

Honestly, I much prefer my Catholic Bibles over the Orthodox Study Bible. I wasn't that impressed with the translation.



Most have problems with the notes rather than the translation. I dont mind the NKJV at all , but the LXX translation could use some work... Psalms are its own entity. The RSV is probably the best modern translation, particularly the Catholic version, the first one. I prefer the KJV to the D-R, particularly in the psalter. But I hear a Catholic did the psalms either way....
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Hello! I am finally coming out of perpetual lurkdom to introduce myself. I've been enjoying reading this forum for a while and have learned a lot because of you all.

My name is Kelly and I was raised a nominal Lutheran. We went to church sporadically but I wouldn't consider my family to be religious in a sense. From about the age of 11 and onwards, I became increasingly interested in the Catholic church. I think it started because I was so into stories about saints. When I was 20, I entered RCIA and became Catholic officially at the March vigil in 2008.

Now, at 25, the more the read the more I wonder if I made a mistake.

Hi Kelly. I can't tell you that it was a mistake to join Catholicism; but I would just like to say that, after participating in a lot of discussions, I've come to the conclusion that converts from protestantism should investigate both Catholicism and Orthodoxy before choosing one of them. (Unfortunately, that rarely happens.)

Welcome to the forum!

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Alright, that's fair enough.

A question about your first sentence: Do you mean Roman as in Western?

Actually I would recommend the same thing.  Both claim to be the one true Church, both have apostolic succession, and the same seven Sacraments. Test the spirits. I wouldnt fear for Orthodoxy.
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Hello! I am finally coming out of perpetual lurkdom to introduce myself. I've been enjoying reading this forum for a while and have learned a lot because of you all.

My name is Kelly and I was raised a nominal Lutheran. We went to church sporadically but I wouldn't consider my family to be religious in a sense. From about the age of 11 and onwards, I became increasingly interested in the Catholic church. I think it started because I was so into stories about saints. When I was 20, I entered RCIA and became Catholic officially at the March vigil in 2008.

Now, at 25, the more the read the more I wonder if I made a mistake.

Hi Kelly. I can't tell you that it was a mistake to join Catholicism; but I would just like to say that, after participating in a lot of discussions, I've come to the conclusion that converts from protestantism should investigate both Catholicism and Orthodoxy before choosing one of them. (Unfortunately, that rarely happens.)

Welcome to the forum!

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Alright, that's fair enough.

A question about your first sentence: Do you mean Roman as in Western?

Actually I would recommend the same thing.  Both claim to be the one true Church, both have apostolic succession, and the same seven Sacraments. Test the spirits. I wouldnt fear for Orthodoxy.

I would hope there isn't a hostile rift between the two at this point and that the Catholic church someday makes the move to rejoin the first church--Orthodoxy.  I don't put much stock at all into claims--they can claim apostolic succession but it doesn't mean they have it.  A split is a split, and Orthodoxy is the only church never to have split from any other organization because they were the first.  As to the first--claiming to be the one true Church, I have yet to hear of any religious organization on earth, Jewish and Muslim included, as well all the tens of thousands of Christian offshoots, that didn't make that very same claim.    I was raised Catholic.  I like that they didn't break off while making the same drastic changes and radical skewings of scripture and doctrine that the others did, but again, a split is a split, and even today, catholicism is the closest you can come to Orthodoxy without being Orthodox.  A miss is a miss, granted, but you can miss small and you can miss big.  If not coming from the Catholic church, I can't promise it ever would have occurred to me to convert to Orthodoxy. 

Matthew 16:18--I get from that that the one true church would be immune or protected from evil.  How is it that now the Catholic church is so infected with scandal borne of deviance?  I can think of only one church not touched by corruption, deviance, or any other scandal--Orthodoxy.  Call me naive or ill-informed, but I see that as divine endorsement.
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Hello! I am finally coming out of perpetual lurkdom to introduce myself. I've been enjoying reading this forum for a while and have learned a lot because of you all.

My name is Kelly and I was raised a nominal Lutheran. We went to church sporadically but I wouldn't consider my family to be religious in a sense. From about the age of 11 and onwards, I became increasingly interested in the Catholic church. I think it started because I was so into stories about saints. When I was 20, I entered RCIA and became Catholic officially at the March vigil in 2008.

Now, at 25, the more the read the more I wonder if I made a mistake.

Hi Kelly. I can't tell you that it was a mistake to join Catholicism; but I would just like to say that, after participating in a lot of discussions, I've come to the conclusion that converts from protestantism should investigate both Catholicism and Orthodoxy before choosing one of them. (Unfortunately, that rarely happens.)

Welcome to the forum!

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Alright, that's fair enough.

A question about your first sentence: Do you mean Roman as in Western?

Actually I would recommend the same thing.  Both claim to be the one true Church, both have apostolic succession, and the same seven Sacraments. Test the spirits. I wouldnt fear for Orthodoxy.

I would hope there isn't a hostile rift between the two at this point and that the Catholic church someday makes the move to rejoin the first church--Orthodoxy.  I don't put much stock at all into claims--they can claim apostolic succession but it doesn't mean they have it.  A split is a split, and Orthodoxy is the only church never to have split from any other organization because they were the first.  As to the first--claiming to be the one true Church, I have yet to hear of any religious organization on earth, Jewish and Muslim included, as well all the tens of thousands of Christian offshoots, that didn't make that very same claim.    I was raised Catholic.  I like that they didn't break off while making the same drastic changes and radical skewings of scripture and doctrine that the others did, but again, a split is a split, and even today, catholicism is the closest you can come to Orthodoxy without being Orthodox.  A miss is a miss, granted, but you can miss small and you can miss big.  If not coming from the Catholic church, I can't promise it ever would have occurred to me to convert to Orthodoxy.  

Matthew 16:18--I get from that that the one true church would be immune or protected from evil.  How is it that now the Catholic church is so infected with scandal borne of deviance?  I can think of only one church not touched by corruption, deviance, or any other scandal--Orthodoxy.  Call me naive or ill-informed, but I see that as divine endorsement.

2/3rds of the Eastern churches were Arian at one time. Old believers boarded themselves up and immolated themselves because of the Nikonian reforms, which were a Liturgical reform which was incorrect in its premise. Sergiism is alive and well in the MP. There is corruption and deviance in the Orthodox Church at times. It just cleans up very well... That I say would be a Divine endorsement. How it comes back stronger and just as Orthodox as ever. Not that it never has corruption or scandal. Thats just NOT AT ALL true. It has sinful men and women in its halls, therefore sin and errors will come. Its just the OCC just bounces back like no other. Amen
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2/3rds of the Eastern churches were Arian at one time. Old believers boarded themselves up and immolated themselves because of the Nikonian reforms, which were a Liturgical reform which was incorrect in its premise. Sergiism is alive and well in the MP. There is corruption and deviance in the Orthodox Church at times. It just cleans up very well... That I say would be a Divine endorsement. How it comes back stronger and just as Orthodox as ever. Not that it never has corruption or scandal. Thats just NOT AT ALL true. It has sinful men and women in its halls, therefore sin and errors will come. Its just the OCC just bounces back like no other. Amen

I'd never label isolated incidents as scandal.  I know of no organization with two or more people that is immune to that.  I'm talking about something widespread.  And to be covered up at such a high level?  The Catholic church is full of good people like all other faiths whose followers have come to them in earnest--but they're scandalizing at an incredible rate and degree, like a cancer that has spread to every part of the body.  The offshoots make the news--Waco, Westboro, Jim Jones, that family shut up in their cabin for days, compounds, on and on and on.  I can't even think of the first, last, or ever time I saw the Orthodox church in the news trying to explain away questionable or deviant conduct.   Yeah, sin goes where people go, but I also think it goes first and foremost in those directions more tolerant of weakness and self-indulgence.  The path of least resistance, so to speak.  The Orthodox church seems to have expectations.  
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I honestly can't remember really looking into Orthodoxy. I was certainly aware of it (I was/am a big Romanov nerd) but I had been convinced that Catholicism was THE Church.

I know it's silly to feel this way but I'm almost embarrassed - I went through all that to become Catholic and now I will probably end up going through it again.  Embarrassed

First off, I'm in a similar situation to you. I'm a convert to the Catholic Church. Oddly enough, I joined the same year you did. I too am investigating the Orthodox Church but for me it is a revisit. Things didn't work out but I'm hoping they do now.

Now for what I wanted to write. There is no reason to be embarrassed. Your experience in joining the Catholic Church, as well as all of your previous experiences, have led you to where you are now. You seem like a true seeker, someone determined to find truth and live it. This is a fantastic mindset. I think you will find that all your previous experiences will be beneficial. As you learn the teachings of Orthodoxy, you'll have a basis for comparison to learn from and build on. This is an exciting time for you. Please don't regret anything which has led you to this place today.
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I am sure that there are quite some of us that is in this i would call it "discovery and investigating phase". All i can say so far is that i feel a great joy and slowly spiritual healing again after months in standstill like situation (forgive my sometimes poor english). The orthodox faith has a rich tradition and such a depth in everything. Which hits me with a smile. (That i can tell, even this early in my phase).

At the same thing, i think it is important to show gratitude to God for leading one to this path. It has to be for a reason, probably far far over my level to understand. But I trust in God and all things happens for a reason.

I try to read, learn, observe, pray, smile and being thankful. Smiley
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I went to Divine Liturgy this morning.Everyone was very helpful and welcoming. It was a very peaceful experience. Now the priest and I are trying to figure out when to meet for the inquirers classes. I am the ONLY inquirer at the moment, by the way.  laugh
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I went to Divine Liturgy this morning.Everyone was very helpful and welcoming. It was a very peaceful experience. Now the priest and I are trying to figure out when to meet for the inquirers classes. I am the ONLY inquirer at the moment, by the way.  laugh


DL is always peaceful for me too.  Then I leave and realize that if I were to die unexpectedly between now and chrismation, I'd still get lumped as a RC and would receive RC funerary rites.  Such is the tolls of choosing a visible church.
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I went to Divine Liturgy this morning.Everyone was very helpful and welcoming. It was a very peaceful experience. Now the priest and I are trying to figure out when to meet for the inquirers classes. I am the ONLY inquirer at the moment, by the way.  laugh


DL is always peaceful for me too.  Then I leave and realize that if I were to die unexpectedly between now and chrismation, I'd still get lumped as a RC and would receive RC funerary rites.  Such is the tolls of choosing a visible church.

Everything I've read has said that as soon as you're a catechumen, you receive an Orthodox funeral and burial.
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I went to Divine Liturgy this morning.Everyone was very helpful and welcoming. It was a very peaceful experience. Now the priest and I are trying to figure out when to meet for the inquirers classes. I am the ONLY inquirer at the moment, by the way.  laugh


DL is always peaceful for me too.  Then I leave and realize that if I were to die unexpectedly between now and chrismation, I'd still get lumped as a RC and would receive RC funerary rites.  Such is the tolls of choosing a visible church.

Indeed.  I gratefully stand corrected.

Everything I've read has said that as soon as you're a catechumen, you receive an Orthodox funeral and burial.
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I went to Divine Liturgy this morning.Everyone was very helpful and welcoming. It was a very peaceful experience. Now the priest and I are trying to figure out when to meet for the inquirers classes. I am the ONLY inquirer at the moment, by the way.  laugh


DL is always peaceful for me too.  Then I leave and realize that if I were to die unexpectedly between now and chrismation, I'd still get lumped as a RC and would receive RC funerary rites.  Such is the tolls of choosing a visible church.

Everything I've read has said that as soon as you're a catechumen, you receive an Orthodox funeral and burial.

I am glad you went.  My first Liturgy was total confusion, but peaceful as you said, which was really strange for me then.  I studied Roman Catholicism, but there were some things I just could not reconcile.  I did not find those things in the Orthodox Church.  As stated before (and the advice given to me from my priest), make sure you want to be Orthodox.  It isn’t easy.

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I went to Divine Liturgy this morning.Everyone was very helpful and welcoming. It was a very peaceful experience. Now the priest and I are trying to figure out when to meet for the inquirers classes. I am the ONLY inquirer at the moment, by the way.  laugh


DL is always peaceful for me too.  Then I leave and realize that if I were to die unexpectedly between now and chrismation, I'd still get lumped as a RC and would receive RC funerary rites.  Such is the tolls of choosing a visible church.

Everything I've read has said that as soon as you're a catechumen, you receive an Orthodox funeral and burial.

I hope you didn't mean that they kill you?  Wink Cheesy (I'm kidding!)
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Everything I've read has said that as soon as you're a catechumen, you receive an Orthodox funeral and burial.

I hope you didn't mean that they kill you?  Wink Cheesy

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Everything I've read has said that as soon as you're a catechumen, you receive an Orthodox funeral and burial.

I hope you didn't mean that they kill you?  Wink Cheesy

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Oh but I did.  angel

By the way, I have my first class with the priest this Wednesday. I'm very excited about it.
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Kelly: can i ask, how long have you been inquiring? And best of luck at this coming wednesday.
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Kelly: can i ask, how long have you been inquiring? And best of luck at this coming wednesday.

Officially inquiring? It is an inquirer's class that I'm attending next week.
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Oh but I did.  angel

In that case, I'm just glad you went up to heaven.
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By the way, I have my first class with the priest this Wednesday. I'm very excited about it.

Can I ask how long you were attending church before you they made you a catechumen?  Did you start asking or were you approached after attending liturgy over a certain period of time?
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By the way, I have my first class with the priest this Wednesday. I'm very excited about it.

Can I ask how long you were attending church before you they made you a catechumen?  Did you start asking or were you approached after attending liturgy over a certain period of time?

I actually haven't joined the catechumenate. I'm just taking the inquirer's classes.
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Ahh, i see. I guess my path will different as i am told to make a prayerlife, learn the komboskini, read and learn, attend all night vigils and divine liturgy. As our parish do not have these kind of classes, if..God willing it, in time..i will be the priest`s pupil.

Well, we will see in time what happens. One month has passed and it feels great, learning new things each week. So one step at a time. Smiley
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Tommelomsky- That is exactly what I'm doing!  Developed a prayer rule, DL, vespers&vigils, chotki&fasting.  Taking steps are but the motion of walking, so to walk one must take steps Wink  Steps, great&small, have purpose.

We have catechumen classes, but they start in September.  So far, I think 5-6 people have been titled as catechumens.  I remain an inquirer, but I have exchanged a number of messages with Fr. D.

Kelly- May the Lord God guide&bless your journey  Smiley
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My process was much less structured, but this may be due to the size of our parish and the distance from the church to the priest’s residence.  I was given assignments, but once complete, all I had to do was wait and go to Liturgy.
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The one thing i wonder is: when in your process is it recommeneded to begin fasting? People keep telling me that i should forget that now and just focus on learning and reading. Are they right?
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The one thing i wonder is: when in your process is it recommeneded to begin fasting? People keep telling me that i should forget that now and just focus on learning and reading. Are they right?
I was told the same thing.  Don't get caught up in the fasting, instead focus in prayer.
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« Reply #57 on: June 17, 2012, 01:42:28 PM »

I understand why many say to forget about fasting at this early stage, but it is incomprehensible for me not to fast.  I am far from new to fasting, both as once a practicing RC&Muslim.  Fasting remains an integral part of my worship, and so I must carry on. Albeit, with noticable modifications.

If you want to give it a spin.  Next week, fast as if you were going to receive Communion.  This IMHO is a great first easy introduction for one new fasting, or wanting to test the Orthodox fasting waters.  Not quite 24hrs, heavily immersed in worship while in the thick of fasting&there is a sweet reward to break the fast, antidoron.  Give Wednesday or Friday a try if you want to go a step up.  Both are 24hrs in length, short&sweet worship during vespers, and you break the fast outside of church.  Just my 2cents of tasting the fasting waters...

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A thing i have been wondering about is this: during such a process as some of you probably has been through or will go through, how did you sort it out regarding confession of sins? By a regular prayerlife? As i can imagine your RC priest that was your confession father before do not see it as a point as you probably attempt not to be RC no more.

How did you handle this situation?
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A thing i have been wondering about is this: during such a process as some of you probably has been through or will go through, how did you sort it out regarding confession of sins? By a regular prayerlife? As i can imagine your RC priest that was your confession father before do not see it as a point as you probably attempt not to be RC no more.

How did you handle this situation?

Talk to your priest about fasting and confession. Orthodoxy is, in many ways, very individualized. Your priest or spiritual father will help you in understanding and developing a prayer rule and other practices. Think of him as a doctor who helps you to develop a treatment plan that works.
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« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2012, 11:08:56 AM »

This is the thing that makes it difficult. I am very new to the russian-orthodox church and the parish i do attend now. What i have been adviced to is just read, attending services and have a regular prayerlife. I have not met the priest yet and is very uncertain what to do. The only thing i know is that orthodox faith does something good to me, but still i am a sinner and the only option i have (as i have not let yet left the RCC is to confess there, but how wise is that?).
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« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2012, 11:12:03 AM »

In the Orthodox parish I attend, Confession is by appointment as far as I know. I grew up in the RCC and I was used to seeing the Confession time listed on the sign in front of the church. ("Mass time 9:00, 11:00, Confession Saturday..."- that kind of thing.) It surprised me when I didn't see that at the Orthodox church!  Smiley
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In the Orthodox parish I attend, Confession is by appointment as far as I know. I grew up in the RCC and I was used to seeing the Confession time listed on the sign in front of the church. ("Mass time 9:00, 11:00, Confession Saturday..."- that kind of thing.) It surprised me when I didn't see that at the Orthodox church!  Smiley

Seems like a lot of parishes offer confession after Vespers on Saturday night and before Divine Liturgy on Sunday.
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« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2012, 11:20:17 AM »

Yes, but what good would confession do when you have status as an inquirer. It is not valid right?
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In churches of Russian/Slavic tradition which serve vigils (vespers and matins) on Saturday nights and on the eves of feasts, priests hear confessions during certain stages of the service when they are "free", such as during the matins canon(s). No appointment necessary.  Smiley
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Yes, but what good would confession do when you have status as an inquirer. It is not valid right?

You say you haven't yet spoken to the priest. Find the chance to speak to him, and he will guide you in what you need to do in whatever matter you need help with.
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In the Orthodox parish I attend, Confession is by appointment as far as I know. I grew up in the RCC and I was used to seeing the Confession time listed on the sign in front of the church. ("Mass time 9:00, 11:00, Confession Saturday..."- that kind of thing.) It surprised me when I didn't see that at the Orthodox church!  Smiley

Seems like a lot of parishes offer confession after Vespers on Saturday night and before Divine Liturgy on Sunday.

My parish doesn't have Vespers most weeks. I wish we did.
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Yes, but what good would confession do when you have status as an inquirer. It is not valid right?

You say you haven't yet spoken to the priest. Find the chance to speak to him, and he will guide you in what you need to do in whatever matter you need help with.

Correct, being at the parish for just a small month of time. He knows about me, as my contact person has told him about me. But from my understanding i am not expected to speak to him before it will be time to concider conversion. But at the other side, it is might a good idea to get a good advice. I more scared and embarassed than anything else.
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Yes, but what good would confession do when you have status as an inquirer. It is not valid right?

You say you haven't yet spoken to the priest. Find the chance to speak to him, and he will guide you in what you need to do in whatever matter you need help with.

Correct, being at the parish for just a small month of time. He knows about me, as my contact person has told him about me. But from my understanding i am not expected to speak to him before it will be time to concider conversion. But at the other side, it is might a good idea to get a good advice. I more scared and embarassed than anything else.

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« Reply #69 on: June 20, 2012, 02:39:31 PM »

Dear Tommelomsky,

It is a good thing that you wish to unburden your soul by confessing sins. 

Why wouldn't you speak to the priest regardless of your intentions about entering the Church?  Did someone tell you not to talk to the priest?  Why not call up the Church and make an appointment to talk to him?  You could tell him that you are scared and embarassed.  I'm sure he's heard the same thing many times.

Sometimes I feel afraid of my priest, whom I trust with the welfare of my soul.  I think this is just another temptation to ignore.


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« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2012, 04:39:37 PM »

Dear Tommelomsky,

It is a good thing that you wish to unburden your soul by confessing sins.  

Why wouldn't you speak to the priest regardless of your intentions about entering the Church?  Did someone tell you not to talk to the priest?  Why not call up the Church and make an appointment to talk to him?  You could tell him that you are scared and embarassed.  I'm sure he's heard the same thing many times.

Sometimes I feel afraid of my priest, whom I trust with the welfare of my soul.  I think this is just another temptation to ignore.


Love, elephant


What i am afraid of is this: that i tell him about the thing (mortal sin) and make a so bad first impression that the doors closes on me before they really have been opened, if you see what i mean? Writing this makes me feel like Doink the clown. But it is from my heart. Last sunday at divine liturgy, i realized what a nice little family this is. Thinking to myself that one day it would be so awesome to be a part of it.

But, one step at a time. In the meantime, all i can do and have done, is to pray (psalms 37,38, 50,51,62,63,103, 140, 141, 142, 143 to mention some from my dayily prayerrule and offer it up to God). It would have been so nice to seek advice, but im afraid to appear like a complete joke.
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The Church is a Hospital for sinners. If there is one person you can tell your sins to, it should be the priest.
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« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2012, 01:17:20 AM »

Hello! I am finally coming out of perpetual lurkdom to introduce myself. I've been enjoying reading this forum for a while and have learned a lot because of you all.

My name is Kelly and I was raised a nominal Lutheran. We went to church sporadically but I wouldn't consider my family to be religious in a sense. From about the age of 11 and onwards, I became increasingly interested in the Catholic church. I think it started because I was so into stories about saints. When I was 20, I entered RCIA and became Catholic officially at the March vigil in 2008.

Now, at 25, the more the read the more I wonder if I made a mistake. I feel like my personal spirituality is more attuned to Orthodoxy. I'm going through a really hard time with discerning what in the world I'm supposed to do. I feel like God is pulling me towards Orthodoxy but I just don't know.

I have the support of my family and my closest Catholic friend so that is good. I would love to make some Orthodox friends here.

Any prayers would definitely be appreciated.

Welcome, you have my prayers, and I hope everything pans out for you. I recommend reading some of the early saints writings (if you haven't) and Fr. John Romanides, they are very helpful.

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Dear Tommelomsky,

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Dear Tommelomsky,

It is a good thing that you wish to unburden your soul by confessing sins.  

Why wouldn't you speak to the priest regardless of your intentions about entering the Church?  Did someone tell you not to talk to the priest?  Why not call up the Church and make an appointment to talk to him?  You could tell him that you are scared and embarassed.  I'm sure he's heard the same thing many times.

Sometimes I feel afraid of my priest, whom I trust with the welfare of my soul.  I think this is just another temptation to ignore.


Love, elephant


What i am afraid of is this: that i tell him about the thing (mortal sin) and make a so bad first impression that the doors closes on me before they really have been opened, if you see what i mean? Writing this makes me feel like Doink the clown. But it is from my heart. Last sunday at divine liturgy, i realized what a nice little family this is. Thinking to myself that one day it would be so awesome to be a part of it.

But, one step at a time. In the meantime, all i can do and have done, is to pray (psalms 37,38, 50,51,62,63,103, 140, 141, 142, 143 to mention some from my dayily prayerrule and offer it up to God). It would have been so nice to seek advice, but im afraid to appear like a complete joke.

Trust me, there's probably not much you could say that he hasn't already heard before. None of us are worthy.
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« Reply #75 on: June 21, 2012, 05:22:25 PM »

First class with the priest went really well. He gave me a couple books to read and helped me get started on a simple daily prayer rule.

By the way, katherineofdixie, I always smile when I see your username and avatar because St. Catherine has been my favorite saint since middle school.  Smiley I took her name when I was confirmed in the Catholic church and I'll take it again when I'm chrismated.
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First class with the priest went really well. He gave me a couple books to read and helped me get started on a simple daily prayer rule.

By the way, katherineofdixie, I always smile when I see your username and avatar because St. Catherine has been my favorite saint since middle school.  Smiley I took her name when I was confirmed in the Catholic church and I'll take it again when I'm chrismated.

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« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2012, 08:22:22 PM »

In the Orthodox parish I attend, Confession is by appointment as far as I know. I grew up in the RCC and I was used to seeing the Confession time listed on the sign in front of the church. ("Mass time 9:00, 11:00, Confession Saturday..."- that kind of thing.) It surprised me when I didn't see that at the Orthodox church!  Smiley

Seems like a lot of parishes offer confession after Vespers on Saturday night and before Divine Liturgy on Sunday.

That's more how I would expect it to be. Biro's post surprised me.
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« Reply #78 on: July 02, 2012, 09:39:43 PM »

Small update: The priest is on a journey, so have not had chance to talk to him yet and are honestly not sure how to approach him either as he will see me in due time.

Other news is that my RC concider conversion status is soon done as i no longer will be an RC in august, but i will continue to pray, read and learn about the orthodox church and in particular the Russian Orthodox church. Meaning that i have taken a step further on. Tiny one.

What suprises me most is that the shyness in the churchroom is almost gone and has been replaced with a deep respect, excitement and happy-good feeling inside. That is a small but for me pleasant step (after quite some time in doubt).
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Hello everyone, this is my first post.  Yey!

I'm a cradle Roman Catholic who have become Eastern Catholic.  But now I'm am looking at Holy Orthodoxy.  I don't know how serious I am yet, I am still challenging myself if I can "stomach" it.  I mean, it is not easy to change my beliefs about the Pope and the Catholic Church given I am a Catholic for all of my life.  But I have found greater spirituality in the Orthodox faith.  As an Eastern Catholic I tried learning from the Orthodox how to live the faith.  Unfortunately I find that those that are around me are not living what I have come to understand as the Orthodox faith and its traditions.  So I am trying to learn about Orthodoxy now and see if what I thought it was is really what it is.  And perhaps it can make me come to a decision to become Orthodox.
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Welcome, Choy.  I look forward to your contributions on here.

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Hello everyone, this is my first post.  Yey!

I'm a cradle Roman Catholic who have become Eastern Catholic.  But now I'm am looking at Holy Orthodoxy.  I don't know how serious I am yet, I am still challenging myself if I can "stomach" it.  I mean, it is not easy to change my beliefs about the Pope and the Catholic Church given I am a Catholic for all of my life.  But I have found greater spirituality in the Orthodox faith.  As an Eastern Catholic I tried learning from the Orthodox how to live the faith.  Unfortunately I find that those that are around me are not living what I have come to understand as the Orthodox faith and its traditions.  So I am trying to learn about Orthodoxy now and see if what I thought it was is really what it is.  And perhaps it can make me come to a decision to become Orthodox.

Welcome,

Be aware we are all at different places in our journey, so you will see a lot of different levels in any parish.  We believe the church is a hospital for sinners not a place for only those who are righteous!

Peace in your journey.
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Dear choy,

Welcome!

I'm sure I'm not living a Christian life.  But I'm also sure the Orthodox Church is the best place to work on that.

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Hello everyone, this is my first post.  Yey!

I'm a cradle Roman Catholic who have become Eastern Catholic.  But now I'm am looking at Holy Orthodoxy.  I don't know how serious I am yet, I am still challenging myself if I can "stomach" it.  I mean, it is not easy to change my beliefs about the Pope and the Catholic Church given I am a Catholic for all of my life.  But I have found greater spirituality in the Orthodox faith.  As an Eastern Catholic I tried learning from the Orthodox how to live the faith.  Unfortunately I find that those that are around me are not living what I have come to understand as the Orthodox faith and its traditions.  So I am trying to learn about Orthodoxy now and see if what I thought it was is really what it is.  And perhaps it can make me come to a decision to become Orthodox.

Welcome,

Be aware we are all at different places in our journey, so you will see a lot of different levels in any parish.  We believe the church is a hospital for sinners not a place for only those who are righteous!

Peace in your journey.
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Thank you.  I understand that.  What I mean is, it is not like everyone is nominal in my current parish.  People are quite devout and religious, but the traditions they follow is not quite what I have come to learn as the Orthodox tradition.  It is more of an in-between of Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
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After my priest returns from vacation, I will officially be a catechumen!  Just have to show him my certificate of baptism as soon as he gets back. We're looking at December for my chrismation.  angel
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« Reply #85 on: July 18, 2012, 03:11:15 PM »

Wonderful news Kelly!  December is not far away!

I had an offical 'meet&greet' with my priest last week.  We discussed a bit of the Antiochian history  (Ware was rather partial of Russian Orthodoxy in The Orthodox Church.  Which I did greatly enjoy, since I do have a great curiosity for the Russian Orthodox Church.  But still I will attend an Antiochian parish, so naturally I want to learn of Antiochian history as well), myself, and the general outline of the catechumenate.  It was a well spent hour and great conversation.

I am still an inquirer, but Fr. D has said that when I am ready to take the step of catechumen.  All I need do is ask, and he would be happy to grant the request during Saturday vespers.  The catechumenate would last about 1yr, bells to my ears.  Before I knew this, I said flat out to Fr. D that I did not want a short catechumenate.  He smiled and said, nothing less than a year Smiley

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« Reply #86 on: July 18, 2012, 07:29:17 PM »

Wonderful news Kelly!  December is not far away!

I had an offical 'meet&greet' with my priest last week.  We discussed a bit of the Antiochian history  (Ware was rather partial of Russian Orthodoxy in The Orthodox Church.  Which I did greatly enjoy, since I do have a great curiosity for the Russian Orthodox Church.  But still I will attend an Antiochian parish, so naturally I want to learn of Antiochian history as well), myself, and the general outline of the catechumenate.  It was a well spent hour and great conversation.

I am still an inquirer, but Fr. D has said that when I am ready to take the step of catechumen.  All I need do is ask, and he would be happy to grant the request during Saturday vespers.  The catechumenate would last about 1yr, bells to my ears.  Before I knew this, I said flat out to Fr. D that I did not want a short catechumenate.  He smiled and said, nothing less than a year Smiley



Awesome, Margarita!

When I asked my priest about the typical length of the catechumenate for the parish, he said usually six months to a year but it depends on the person. Since I won't be able to give him my certificate until August, mine will be four-ish months.
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6 months, solid round number.  4, well you're on your way  Cool 

I'm very excited for you!  One would think it's me to be chrismated Smiley

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« Reply #89 on: July 18, 2012, 09:04:34 PM »

Hello everyone, this is my first post.  Yey!

I'm a cradle Roman Catholic who have become Eastern Catholic.  But now I'm am looking at Holy Orthodoxy.  I don't know how serious I am yet, I am still challenging myself if I can "stomach" it.  I mean, it is not easy to change my beliefs about the Pope and the Catholic Church given I am a Catholic for all of my life.  But I have found greater spirituality in the Orthodox faith.  As an Eastern Catholic I tried learning from the Orthodox how to live the faith.  Unfortunately I find that those that are around me are not living what I have come to understand as the Orthodox faith and its traditions.  So I am trying to learn about Orthodoxy now and see if what I thought it was is really what it is.  And perhaps it can make me come to a decision to become Orthodox.

Welcome,

Be aware we are all at different places in our journey, so you will see a lot of different levels in any parish.  We believe the church is a hospital for sinners not a place for only those who are righteous!

Peace in your journey.
 Smiley

Thank you.  I understand that.  What I mean is, it is not like everyone is nominal in my current parish.  People are quite devout and religious, but the traditions they follow is not quite what I have come to learn as the Orthodox tradition.  It is more of an in-between of Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Not meaning to be nosey, but the above statement seems a little odd, given that your profile says your Catholic.
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« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2012, 10:45:08 PM »

I am officially a catechumen!  Cheesy
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« Reply #91 on: August 06, 2012, 10:50:07 PM »

Congratulations!!   Smiley
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« Reply #92 on: August 07, 2012, 01:16:28 AM »

Not meaning to be nosey, but the above statement seems a little odd, given that your profile says your Catholic.

Can a Catholic not learn about Orthodox traditions?
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« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2012, 02:19:45 AM »

I am officially a catechumen!  Cheesy

Congratulations Kelly! Many years! Smiley
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« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2012, 05:21:59 AM »

The one thing i wonder is: when in your process is it recommeneded to begin fasting? People keep telling me that i should forget that now and just focus on learning and reading. Are they right?

I would wait until your priest brings it up.  He will let you know when it is time to begin.
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« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2012, 05:33:08 AM »

Congrats! Smiley
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« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2012, 08:46:44 AM »

Many, Many, MANY years!  Congratulations Kelly!  I will be sending Fr. D a request today that I join the catechumenate  Shocked

I want to be so named on the 15th, praying that Fr. D agrees to my request that it be the 15th and not the following Saturday!

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« Reply #97 on: August 07, 2012, 09:31:25 AM »

Not meaning to be nosey, but the above statement seems a little odd, given that your profile says your Catholic.

Can a Catholic not learn about Orthodox traditions?

You said that at your Catholic parish "People are quite devout and religious, but the traditions they follow is not quite what I have come to learn as the Orthodox tradition". (See below.) I don't see why you would expect it to be.

Hello everyone, this is my first post.  Yey!

I'm a cradle Roman Catholic who have become Eastern Catholic.  But now I'm am looking at Holy Orthodoxy.  I don't know how serious I am yet, I am still challenging myself if I can "stomach" it.  I mean, it is not easy to change my beliefs about the Pope and the Catholic Church given I am a Catholic for all of my life.  But I have found greater spirituality in the Orthodox faith.  As an Eastern Catholic I tried learning from the Orthodox how to live the faith.  Unfortunately I find that those that are around me are not living what I have come to understand as the Orthodox faith and its traditions.  So I am trying to learn about Orthodoxy now and see if what I thought it was is really what it is.  And perhaps it can make me come to a decision to become Orthodox.

Welcome,

Be aware we are all at different places in our journey, so you will see a lot of different levels in any parish.  We believe the church is a hospital for sinners not a place for only those who are righteous!

Peace in your journey.
 Smiley

Thank you.  I understand that.  What I mean is, it is not like everyone is nominal in my current parish.  People are quite devout and religious, but the traditions they follow is not quite what I have come to learn as the Orthodox tradition.  It is more of an in-between of Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Not meaning to be nosey, but the above statement seems a little odd, given that your profile says your Catholic.
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You said that at your Catholic parish "People are quite devout and religious, but the traditions they follow is not quite what I have come to learn as the Orthodox tradition". (See below.) I don't see why you would expect it to be.

My Catholic parish is a Ukrainian Catholic parish.  Were you thinking I was referring to a Roman Catholic parish?
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« Reply #99 on: August 07, 2012, 11:40:08 AM »

My Catholic parish is a Ukrainian Catholic parish.

Yes, I know, I saw your profile.
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My Catholic parish is a Ukrainian Catholic parish.

Yes, I know, I saw your profile.

This thread keeps getting hijacked.  Sad
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Quote from: kelly

This thread keeps getting hijacked.  Sad

Wasn't trying to; just looking for clarification on what he said about his parish not following Orthodox tradition.
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« Reply #102 on: December 20, 2012, 09:59:39 PM »

I'm a couple days late but I wanted to share the great news.

As of December 16, I am the newly-illumined Catherine.  laugh

Please pray for me as I continue my journey in the Holy Orthodox Church.
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« Reply #103 on: December 20, 2012, 10:33:36 PM »

Wohoo!  Congratulations and many years Catherine! Smiley
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« Reply #104 on: December 20, 2012, 11:43:23 PM »

Congratulations and Many Years!!
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« Reply #105 on: December 21, 2012, 12:45:22 AM »

Many years!
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« Reply #106 on: December 21, 2012, 07:33:07 AM »

Wonderful!  May God grant you MANY MANY YEARS  Kiss
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Many years!
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« Reply #108 on: December 21, 2012, 11:29:24 PM »

I'm a couple days late but I wanted to share the great news.

As of December 16, I am the newly-illumined Catherine.  laugh

Please pray for me as I continue my journey in the Holy Orthodox Church.

Yay! You win.  Smiley

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« Reply #109 on: December 27, 2012, 12:07:51 PM »

I'm a couple days late but I wanted to share the great news.

As of December 16, I am the newly-illumined Catherine.  laugh

Please pray for me as I continue my journey in the Holy Orthodox Church.


Holy Great Martyr St. Catherine pray to God for us!

Many years!
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Many years!
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