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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 07:40:22 AM » |
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for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
A 125 million dollar+ Church is being built in Dallas:
I've never been highly opinionated, one way or the other, on the whole building-a-nice-expensive-cathedral issue (and not for lack of exposure: a decade or so ago I knew a lot of people in Opus Dei). But $125,000,000? Holy hallucinations! |
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2012, 09:01:59 AM » |
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looks fairly similar to this one....   this one is near my house, and home to the former president of the southern baptist convention. the current presidents's church is also about 10 min from me... |
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2012, 09:51:50 AM » |
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I wonder how large the 125 million dollar+ Church is. It doesn't seem to have made the cut for this List of largest church buildings in the world. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 09:54:33 AM » |
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I dont think it has been built yet. When its built, then surely it will. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2012, 10:39:45 AM » |
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for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
A 125 million dollar+ Church is being built in Dallas:
I've never been highly opinionated, one way or the other, on the whole building-a-nice-expensive-cathedral issue (and not for lack of exposure: a decade or so ago I knew a lot of people in Opus Dei). But $125,000,000? Holy hallucinations! I'm wondering how long until it goes bankrupt and sold like the Crystal Cathedral? I'm also wondering how many icons it would take to fill the place up? |
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2012, 10:45:11 AM » |
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for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
A 125 million dollar+ Church is being built in Dallas:
I've never been highly opinionated, one way or the other, on the whole building-a-nice-expensive-cathedral issue (and not for lack of exposure: a decade or so ago I knew a lot of people in Opus Dei). But $125,000,000? Holy hallucinations! I'm wondering how long until it goes bankrupt and sold like the Crystal Cathedral? I'm also wondering how many icons it would take to fill the place up? Theyd probably have to spend another 125,000,000 to fill the place up with icons!! |
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2012, 11:17:06 AM » |
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I dont think it has been built yet. When its built, then surely it will. OIC |
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 01:02:41 PM » |
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I bet the cost of building Hagia Sophia, adjusting for inflation and all that, would put this to shame.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 01:06:12 PM » |
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I bet the cost of building Hagia Sophia, adjusting for inflation and all that, would put this to shame.
I thought about that. I was also curious about Saint Sava... |
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 01:08:36 PM » |
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southern baptists worship mamon, it is well known
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 01:14:51 PM » |
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Somewhat off topic, but I was watching a video on Sunday of a bunch of guys going to Joel Osteen's megachurch for the first time (and they were filming it), and the place was so huge they got lost in the parking garage  |
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 01:38:22 PM » |
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I can't even imagine why people need so huge churches. Are they even able to fill them on sundays?
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 01:44:33 PM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!   stay blessed, habte selassie |
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2012, 01:44:46 PM » |
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I can't even imagine why people need so huge churches. Are they even able to fill them on sundays?
the ones around here, yes. |
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2012, 01:45:25 PM » |
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But how many people are they serving on a regular basis? |
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2012, 02:00:16 PM » |
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Somewhat off topic, but I was watching a video on Sunday of a bunch of guys going to Joel Osteen's megachurch for the first time (and they were filming it), and the place was so huge they got lost in the parking garage when your church has a parking garage, you know you've arrived. |
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Must be Evangelical since they're always having crappy concerts and gatherings.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2012, 07:43:10 AM » |
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I bet the cost of building Hagia Sophia, adjusting for inflation and all that, would put this to shame.
Can't vouch for the accuracy personally, but according to a Nature article I found Justinian paid 145,000kg gold on it which would cost about $3 billion US today - which means you'd be right. Given my experience of modern buildings, though, I'd be highly surprised if this one lasts 1500 years James |
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2012, 08:08:58 AM » |
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Thats not a church, thats a concert hall.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2012, 08:36:13 AM » |
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Thats not a church, thats a concert hall.
And some Orthodox churches are museums. (Sorry, just had to say that after reading the other thread about picking on Protestants .) |
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2012, 09:31:56 AM » |
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But how many people are they serving on a regular basis?
Depends on how you define "serving," but enough to fill that building if we're talking FBC-Dallas. Construction costs aside, I wonder how much it will cost to operate such a monster. |
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2012, 01:57:13 PM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
when your church has a parking garage, you know you've arrived.
We sure could use one, we are in an old LA neighborhood with narrow side-streets with no parking, and our lot has about 15 spaces for a congregation that averages 400 on any given Sunday, well over 1500 on big holidays. We park for literally miles around all over the neighorhood, and have just recently bought a new building almost exclusively because of the parking issues stay blessed, habte selassie |
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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2012, 12:47:31 AM » |
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But how many people are they serving on a regular basis?
Depends on how you define "serving," but enough to fill that building if we're talking FBC-Dallas. Construction costs aside, I wonder how much it will cost to operate such a monster. Well, if they can fill the building, I don't know why anyone thinks it's over the top. Have they not seen some of the icons in Orthodox Churches where nearly the entire thing is covered in gold and silver? And they want to complain that too much is spent on a building? |
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2012, 06:54:16 PM » |
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Yeah, I don't get the outrage. Many Orthodox churches are enormous and beautiful, and I think that's a good thing. The fact that this particular building appears to be enormous and ugly is another matter, but no one's commented on that so far; just on the cost. And I've long disliked the attitude that it's bad to spend money beautifying the Church because it could have been given to the poor or some such. I am reminded a bit of Matt 26:6-13.
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2012, 07:27:01 PM » |
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I bet the cost of building Hagia Sophia, adjusting for inflation and all that, would put this to shame.
Can't vouch for the accuracy personally, but according to a Nature article I found Justinian paid 145,000kg gold on it which would cost about $3 billion US today - which means you'd be right. Given my experience of modern buildings, though, I'd be highly surprised if this one lasts 1500 years James Yeah, but that was a public works project, like the great pyramids or the forbidden city. Not really comparable. |
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I bet the cost of building Hagia Sophia, adjusting for inflation and all that, would put this to shame.
Can't vouch for the accuracy personally, but according to a Nature article I found Justinian paid 145,000kg gold on it which would cost about $3 billion US today - which means you'd be right. Given my experience of modern buildings, though, I'd be highly surprised if this one lasts 1500 years James Yeah, but that was a public works project, like the great pyramids or the forbidden city. Not really comparable. How dare you besmirch Reaganomics. |
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2012, 12:04:08 AM » |
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I bet the cost of building Hagia Sophia, adjusting for inflation and all that, would put this to shame.
Can't vouch for the accuracy personally, but according to a Nature article I found Justinian paid 145,000kg gold on it which would cost about $3 billion US today - which means you'd be right. Given my experience of modern buildings, though, I'd be highly surprised if this one lasts 1500 years James Yeah, but that was a public works project, like the great pyramids or the forbidden city. Not really comparable. Indeed, this one was paid for entirely by donated money, instead of that which was taken by force. |
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2012, 12:18:44 AM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
when your church has a parking garage, you know you've arrived.
We sure could use one, we are in an old LA neighborhood with narrow side-streets with no parking, and our lot has about 15 spaces for a congregation that averages 400 on any given Sunday, well over 1500 on big holidays. We park for literally miles around all over the neighorhood, and have just recently bought a new building almost exclusively because of the parking issues stay blessed, habte selassie I feel you. I pray that I find a parking spot on my way to church on Sundays. On Pascha our parish rents a parking structure near downtown LA and rents buses to ship us to and from the church. It is a nightmare. |
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Indeed, this one was paid for entirely by donated money, instead of that which was taken by force.
I would place brainwashing as a greater evil than compulsory taxation. |
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What I find fascinating is how ***MANY*** new mega-church structures are being built lately -more flavors than Baskin Robbins.
On some interstates you can pass a hundred mega-churches faster than it takes to recognize the two-step diarrhea.
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What I find fascinating is how ***MANY*** new mega-church structures are being built lately -more flavors than Baskin Robbins.
On some interstates you can pass a hundred mega-churches faster than it takes to recognize the two-step diarrhea.
The mega-church I attended for a while was actually only about a tenth of a mile from an equally mega-church. |
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What I find fascinating is how ***MANY*** new mega-church structures are being built lately -more flavors than Baskin Robbins.
On some interstates you can pass a hundred mega-churches faster than it takes to recognize the two-step diarrhea.
The mega-church I attended for a while was actually only about a tenth of a mile from an equally mega-church. Wow. |
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