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« on: May 10, 2012, 03:33:08 PM » |
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This is my opinion.
To self-ejaculate out of non-necessity is definitely harmful and looses vital spiritual, intellectual, and physical energy. Years of evolutionary development can be gained by preserving seed. Preservation of the seed has been prized in many spiritual traditions as the secret to eternal youth. However, there are times when self-ejaculation is beneficial in order to avoid vices and also to release pent up energy. This is only true of beginners on the spiritual path who are not yet proficient in transmuting the sexual energy into spiritual energy. The vast majority of spiritual practitioners are still beginners. Anyone who is in this category has the moral right to ejaculate when they feel that they must do so. There is no need to fight against it. In fact, it is impossible to directly fight against and at this level it is nearly a biological necessity to have a release once a week. The benefit is that the focus can get off of that struggle and onto more productive spiritual things. But we should hurry on down the path where there is liberation from the constraints of the body.
What do you think about this?
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ialmisry
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 03:35:38 PM » |
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http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,38152.0.htmlso, do we have a masturbating troll? is this what the OP is about? Your opinion is gnostic. One should marry and have children, and not indulge this nonsense and hatred of the body.
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 03:36:52 PM » |
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This is my opinion.
To self-ejaculate out of non-necessity is definitely harmful and looses vital spiritual, intellectual, and physical energy. Years of evolutionary development can be gained by preserving seed. Preservation of the seed has been prized in many spiritual traditions as the secret to eternal youth. However, there are times when self-ejaculation is beneficial in order to avoid vices and also to release pent up energy. This is only true of beginners on the spiritual path who are not yet proficient in transmuting the sexual energy into spiritual energy. The vast majority of spiritual practitioners are still beginners. Anyone who is in this category has the moral right to ejaculate when they feel that they must do so. There is no need to fight against it. In fact, it is impossible to directly fight against and at this level it is nearly a biological necessity to have a release once a week. The benefit is that the focus can get off of that struggle and onto more productive spiritual things. But we should hurry on down the path where there is liberation from the constraints of the body.
What do you think about this?
I disagree. After a few months of not having "relief" your libido shuts down to basically nothing. By "taking care of business" you're only prolonging your agony. PP |
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ialmisry
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 03:39:05 PM » |
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This is my opinion.
To self-ejaculate out of non-necessity is definitely harmful and looses vital spiritual, intellectual, and physical energy. Years of evolutionary development can be gained by preserving seed. Preservation of the seed has been prized in many spiritual traditions as the secret to eternal youth. However, there are times when self-ejaculation is beneficial in order to avoid vices and also to release pent up energy. This is only true of beginners on the spiritual path who are not yet proficient in transmuting the sexual energy into spiritual energy. The vast majority of spiritual practitioners are still beginners. Anyone who is in this category has the moral right to ejaculate when they feel that they must do so. There is no need to fight against it. In fact, it is impossible to directly fight against and at this level it is nearly a biological necessity to have a release once a week. The benefit is that the focus can get off of that struggle and onto more productive spiritual things. But we should hurry on down the path where there is liberation from the constraints of the body.
What do you think about this?
I disagree. After a few months of not having "relief" your libido shuts down to basically nothing. and what else doesn't shut down? |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 03:40:54 PM » |
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primuspilus
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 03:45:07 PM » |
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This is my opinion.
To self-ejaculate out of non-necessity is definitely harmful and looses vital spiritual, intellectual, and physical energy. Years of evolutionary development can be gained by preserving seed. Preservation of the seed has been prized in many spiritual traditions as the secret to eternal youth. However, there are times when self-ejaculation is beneficial in order to avoid vices and also to release pent up energy. This is only true of beginners on the spiritual path who are not yet proficient in transmuting the sexual energy into spiritual energy. The vast majority of spiritual practitioners are still beginners. Anyone who is in this category has the moral right to ejaculate when they feel that they must do so. There is no need to fight against it. In fact, it is impossible to directly fight against and at this level it is nearly a biological necessity to have a release once a week. The benefit is that the focus can get off of that struggle and onto more productive spiritual things. But we should hurry on down the path where there is liberation from the constraints of the body.
What do you think about this?
I disagree. After a few months of not having "relief" your libido shuts down to basically nothing. and what else doesn't shut down?  |
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"I confidently affirm that whoever calls himself Universal Bishop is the precursor of Antichrist"
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 03:51:35 PM » |
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There is actually a spiritual benefit to ejaculation. It can help open up blocked nasal passages inflamed by allergies: Spring is here and with it come the woes of hay fever. Never fear, however, as there may be a quick and pleasurable treatment to clear those bunged noses, for guys at least – a well-timed ejaculation.
That's what Sina Zarrintan, a neurologist from the Tabriz Medical University in Iran proposes, anyway. The logic behind the proposal is based on the fact that the nose and the genitals are both connected to the same part of the nervous system that controls certain reflexes – the sympathetic nervous system. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16872-masturbation-could-bring-hay-fever-relief-for-men.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-newsMy allergist recommends it highly. Caffeine, nicotine, and masturbation as the big three natural remedies for Spring Fever. Enjoy. |
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 03:53:04 PM » |
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There is actually a spiritual benefit to ejaculation.
It can help to open up blocked nasal passages inflamed by allergies
So you're saying that non-angelic marriage is the remedy for allergies? How maculately carnal. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 04:12:41 PM » |
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Caffeine, nicotine, and masturbation as the big three natural remedies for Spring Fever. Don't forget local honey. I've been eating a little bit of local honey every day this year and for about the first time in my life have had no problems this spring. |
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 04:44:40 PM » |
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Also mummy dust works quite well for this problem.
You need to wrap it in cheesecloth and bury it beside the root of an ash tree first, though. Leave it for three moon's cycle, then dig it up and you're good to go.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2012, 12:16:30 PM » |
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Regarding the OP, how does one convert sexual energy into spiritual energy?
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ialmisry
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2012, 01:47:35 PM » |
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Regarding the OP, how does one convert sexual energy into spiritual energy?
remember, you asked. |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2012, 01:47:56 PM » |
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Regarding the OP, how does one convert sexual energy into spiritual energy?
By the right method of meditation. |
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2012, 03:54:47 PM » |
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Regarding the OP, how does one convert sexual energy into spiritual energy?
I have had ejaculations that bordered on religious experiences. But that was in my younger days. As I get older, an ejaculation borders on a miracle. Does this make sense? |
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2012, 05:56:38 PM » |
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Regarding the OP, how does one convert sexual energy into spiritual energy?
I have had ejaculations that bordered on religious experiences. But that was in my younger days. As I get older, an ejaculation borders on a miracle. Does this make sense? LOL |
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2012, 06:27:29 PM » |
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This might be the first time I'm genuinely disturbed from a thread...
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2012, 07:15:31 PM » |
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This might be the first time I'm genuinely disturbed from a thread...
It seems that the threads have been going a bit downhill. I mean, the title of this one alone . . . |
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2012, 08:04:37 PM » |
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Eureka! amartin's god must be Priapus!
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2012, 09:46:15 PM » |
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Masturbation helps clear my sinuses from allergies or a cold.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2012, 02:49:03 AM » |
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Regarding the OP, how does one convert sexual energy into spiritual energy?
I have had ejaculations that bordered on religious experiences. But that was in my younger days. As I get older, an ejaculation borders on a miracle. Does this make sense? Ahaha. Well said. |
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2012, 04:11:41 AM » |
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Well, now, just when I think OC.net couldn't get any weirder, here it goes...
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2012, 11:17:28 AM » |
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But we should hurry on down the path where there is liberation from the constraints of the body bondage to the degenerative effects of the passions.
Fixed. |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2012, 01:57:35 PM » |
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Your opinion is gnostic. One should marry and have children, and not indulge this nonsense and hatred of the body.
The OP reminds me much more of Taoism than gnosticism. |
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2012, 07:02:12 PM » |
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This might be the first time I'm genuinely disturbed from a thread...
Me too. I also find it odd that the op would give credence to "evolutionary" things, yet be concerned about spiritual. I also disagree with his statement. |
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2012, 07:12:22 PM » |
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This might be the first time I'm genuinely disturbed from a thread...
Me too. I also find it odd that the op would give credence to "evolutionary" things, yet be concerned about spiritual. I also disagree with his statement. Never heard of "spiritual evolution"? |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2012, 07:31:41 PM » |
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This is my opinion.
To self-ejaculate out of non-necessity is definitely harmful and looses vital spiritual, intellectual, and physical energy. Years of evolutionary development can be gained by preserving seed. Preservation of the seed has been prized in many spiritual traditions as the secret to eternal youth. However, there are times when self-ejaculation is beneficial in order to avoid vices and also to release pent up energy. This is only true of beginners on the spiritual path who are not yet proficient in transmuting the sexual energy into spiritual energy. The vast majority of spiritual practitioners are still beginners. Anyone who is in this category has the moral right to ejaculate when they feel that they must do so. There is no need to fight against it. In fact, it is impossible to directly fight against and at this level it is nearly a biological necessity to have a release once a week. The benefit is that the focus can get off of that struggle and onto more productive spiritual things. But we should hurry on down the path where there is liberation from the constraints of the body.
What do you think about this?
where can one begin? why don't you tell us what the first sentence mean to you? I find that particularly fascinating. |
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