But . . . but . . . these are good Christian women. I find that you often need to remove both of those adjectives.
And, the men are snookered. I had a Baptist man defend the movie Fireproof to me the other day. I was gobsmacked.
Sauron, I do not mind your working on your debating skills but it seems you are going off the deep end in this thread and I am a bit worried.
Everyone deserves to be treating with respect. The problem that many men have is that they put women on a pedestal and do their best ot be "nice guys". Then, they wonder why all the hot girls are with "jerks".
I do put women on a pedestal (and I would agree that many do not want to be in this position). They can have strengths, motivations, degrees of caring and empathy that I lack. To be able to associate with them is an honor and that association and education from their perspective makes me whole.
Nice guys looking for hot girls sounds like a non sequitur to me. Care to justify this statement?
If the nice guys would get a clue, they would realize that most divorces are filed by the wife. Then, they would find that most of the time, the husband was abusive, addicted, or adulterous. Rather, it is just even though "he's so good to me" that "something was missing".
If men are more likely to be swayed by the attitudes that you express than women (as it appears from this forum to some extent), this supposedly statistical observation is quite understandable.
The best and most public modern example is "Eat, Pray, Love". The first few chapters can be read on Google Books for free, and we learn it is a story of a woman who is married to a perfectly nice man, but then she goes cuckoo for no apparent reason.
Without further information this appears to be an extrapolation of a single instance into a generality. Again Sauron, this worries me because you are usually crisp and clear in the logic of your thinking which makes me think something else is going on in your life.
The other thing that disturbs me is that your attitude is so akin to the precepts of Lykis101, which conceivably you derived yourself. It might be useful to discuss Tom Lykis from an Orthodox perspective if you care to do so.
Finally, I was raised by my father to be a gentleman. He was a exceptional human being. I frankly can't remember him ever erring from the path that Christ set out for us to follow. I need him now and I am surviving on the basis of my remembrance of him. I greatly appreciated the logic of your arguments in the past and I wish you will return to your old self. I am tired of your current vapid statements. Take care (meaning I am striving to be a nice guy and one of my goals in life is caring about you).