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Developing a prayer rule
« on: May 07, 2012, 09:13:53 AM »
Since I'm non-Orthodox, should I discuss my daily prayer habits with my Orthodox priest?  I would like to ensure that my daily practices are fine from an Orthodox perspective.
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 09:26:10 AM »
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 01:52:21 PM »
It would be a great idea to get the little black OCA prayer book.
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 02:55:23 PM »
It would be a great idea to get the little black OCA prayer book.

That's exactly what I'm hoping not to do.
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 03:41:53 PM »
It would be a great idea to get the little black OCA prayer book.

That's exactly what I'm hoping not to do.

Theres an OCA book?  Similar to the little red Antiochian book?
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 03:54:31 PM »
It would be a great idea to get the little black OCA prayer book.

That's exactly what I'm hoping not to do.

Theres an OCA book?  Similar to the little red Antiochian book?

The only personal prayer book I know of from the OCA is the St. Tikhon's Press Orthodox Daily Prayer Book.

It's similar in size and content to the Jordanville. Quite nice, in my opinion.
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 04:15:32 PM »

The only personal prayer book I know of from the OCA is the St. Tikhon's Press Orthodox Daily Prayer Book.

There's a 2008 revision available, too.
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 04:50:01 PM »
It would be a great idea to get the little black OCA prayer book.

That's exactly what I'm hoping not to do.
Why?
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 12:20:23 AM »
Since I'm non-Orthodox, should I discuss my daily prayer habits with my Orthodox priest?  I would like to ensure that my daily practices are fine from an Orthodox perspective.

I would not see any reason as to why not discuss it with a priest if you are concerned.
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2012, 08:54:15 PM »
My priest recommended that I get a prayer book.  There are so many that I have no clue what would be best.  I go to an OCA parish.
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2012, 11:39:32 PM »
My priest recommended that I get a prayer book.  There are so many that I have no clue what would be best.  I go to an OCA parish.
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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2012, 10:06:20 PM »
May I draw your attention to the sticky topic about starting daily prayer it seems to be in the line of this discussion as well.

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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2012, 10:21:58 PM »
My priest recommended that I get a prayer book.  There are so many that I have no clue what would be best.  I go to an OCA parish.

Well, if you want a prayer-book that would be in line with your local parish use-

There is the Jordanville Prayerbook, which seems to be the standard go-to with the Russian Orthodox and their descendants. It also has some prayers from Matins and Vespers and the text of the Divine Liturgy

St Tikhon's Prayer Book has the same (and one or two extra) Morning and Evening prayers as the Jordanville, but uses the "Revised" liturgical English, which would be a good choice if this is what your parish uses (Thees and Thous, but not "-ests" and "-eths").

St Herman of Alaska has one which follows the St Tikhon/ Jordanville format, but in Modern English. If your parish doesn't use the "Thees" and "Thous" this might be a good one.

Keep in mind, one probably shouldn't attempt to pray every prayer listed for the Morning and Evening prayers in the above mentioned books from the start- it is quite a rigorous prayer rule, one which I would certainly not attempt (I have enough on my hands with the rather shorter Morning Prayer rule found in the HTM prayer book). Pick one that best suits the language of your parish and discuss a prayer rule with your priest. You should probably talk to him again and ask which one he recommends.

The Morning and Evening prayers in the back of the Orthodox Study Bible are fairly common cross-jurisdictional prayers with less for the beginner to attempt. The Evening prayers are more aimed toward the Greek/Antiochian tradition though- the Troparia for the Evening will be completely different from what you hear at your parish if there's ever a Compline service with the Prayers before Sleep.

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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2012, 11:55:28 PM »
The Morning and Evening prayers in the back of the Orthodox Study Bible are fairly common cross-jurisdictional prayers with less for the beginner to attempt. The Evening prayers are more aimed toward the Greek/Antiochian tradition though- the Troparia for the Evening will be completely different from what you hear at your parish if there's ever a Compline service with the Prayers before Sleep.

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Re: Developing a prayer rule
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2012, 10:12:18 PM »
As a convert, I have found formal daily prayer the hardest thing I have encountered.  I pray my own informal prayers and the Lord's Prayer.  I seem to have a hard time reading the prayers in my prayer book every day.  I asked my priest if Satan was keeping me from the daily rule of prayer.  He told me to start with the first prayers, the  ones through the Lord's prayer, then gradually add more.  Also do the same in the evening.  I have such difficulty  with the discipline of prayer.  I'm too tired at night, or I'm busy in the morning.  Always an excuse.  I live near the Holy Trinity Monastery in Jordonville NY.  The prayer book I bought in the bookstore  is complete in every detail, it even has the the Divine Liturgy in it's entirety, not the usual "Reader's Digest" version most Church's use these days.  It's  my own failings, I can't blame others, or my Church of Christ upbringing.  I know better, sometimes I wonder if on Judgement Day when Christ asks me why I feed my dogs first, as if they were more important than praying to Him and asking for forgiveness for my sins or asking our Holy Mother to intercede on my behalf.  I see everyone else's sins, so quick to think, I don't commit adultery or  drink too much, I'm a "good woman," not like those other single women.  Then I remember the sinner praying '"Lord have mercy on me, a sinner."