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Question: How much do you spend in spiritual practice, such as worship, prayer, and meditation EACH DAY?
Only on Sundays, before bed time, and at random occurances - 1 (5.9%)
On 3-5 days throughout the week I devote some time - 4 (23.5%)
Every day no matter what - 7 (41.2%)
I start the day by spending at least 10 minutes in spiritual practice and end the day in the same way - 3 (17.6%)
My life is spirituality- I pray at least 5 times per day with each session being at least 10 minutes - 2 (11.8%)
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« on: May 03, 2012, 02:50:55 PM »

I would like to know how many people here worship, pray, and meditation as much as Jews and Muslims.

Jews are absolutely required to pray 3 times per day- morning, afternoon, and evening.

Unfortunately, most Christians don't do anything for their spirituality.

I am only doing this thread to help people realize the absolute necessity of daily spiritual practice as the only way for salvation. I believe that it is even more important than belief in the Messiah. The Apostle James says that even the demons believe to no benefit. The benefit only comes through the lifestyle of worship, prayer, and meditation.

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 02:54:06 PM »

Somewhere between fifteen minutes and six hours a day, depending on what counts as spiritual practices. Wink
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 02:55:59 PM »

About twenty minutes a day, total prayer time plus Bible reading. A little more after I come home from church.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 02:59:14 PM »

I would like to know how many people here worship, pray, and meditation as much as Jews and Muslims.

Jews are absolutely required to pray 3 times per day- morning, afternoon, and evening.

Unfortunately, most Christians don't do anything for their spirituality.

Nor do most Jews.  

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 03:11:51 PM »

I would like to know how many people here worship, pray, and meditation as much as Jews and Muslims.

Jews are absolutely required to pray 3 times per day- morning, afternoon, and evening.

Unfortunately, most Christians don't do anything for their spirituality.

Nor do most Jews.  




The Reformed Jews mostly don't do anything. But Orthodox Jews do. The Reformed apostasy is relatively recent.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 03:16:49 PM »

We pray without ceasing because the spiritual struggle is never-ending until death.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 03:21:11 PM »

I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing" John 15: 5

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6

4In him was life,and the life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.John 1:4-5

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yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. John 5:40

Edit: in case you misunderstand, our spiritual practices are never more important than the belief in the Messiah, we are invited to the heavenly wedding and we need to wash our garment with his blood. without him we can do nothing, yet through him who strengthens us we can do all things. if we gather spiritual fruits, then we gather it with Christ, without Christ we labor in vain. Faith with Works is alive, however,works without Faith will not bring life, Faith without work is the faith of the demons.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 04:08:44 PM »

our spiritual practices are never more important than the belief in the Messiah

This is definitely not true. What a shame that this has come to pass as Yashua's teaching! Belief in the Messiah is very important. But it is not more important than spiritual practices- loving God, worshiping him, living lives of prayer and meditation, growing as people, doing good deeds to build up the kingdom, etc. All of that is assuredly not in vain without belief in the Messiah. To resist the inner witness of the Spirit regarding the Messiah is indeed sinful. However, it's even more sinful to not have any daily spiritual practice whatsoever. This should be incredibly obvious.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 04:21:40 PM »

On a good week, 30 minutes in the morning, 30 minutes in the evening, and sporadically throughout the day.

On a bad week (like this one)... not much happening, spiritually speaking. Bad weeks tend to turn into bad months. I had better get back at it!  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 04:32:54 PM »

Muslims pray very short prayers, between 5-15 mins depending on the time of day. It doesn't amount to more than an hour a day, which is more or less the same amount of time most observant Orthodox Christians spend if they say morning and evening prayers. The difference is that Christians will often spend 2-3 hours in church services during the week. So if you want to count piety in minutes, the observant Christians win.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 04:51:56 PM »

the observant Christians

Lol! That's about 0.01%
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 04:52:07 PM »

our spiritual practices are never more important than the belief in the Messiah

This is definitely not true. What a shame that this has come to pass as Yashua's teaching! Belief in the Messiah is very important. But it is not more important than spiritual practices- loving God, worshiping him, living lives of prayer and meditation, growing as people, doing good deeds to build up the kingdom, etc. All of that is assuredly not in vain without belief in the Messiah. To resist the inner witness of the Spirit regarding the Messiah is indeed sinful. However, it's even more sinful to not have any daily spiritual practice whatsoever. This should be incredibly obvious.

First of all, the Messiah is God thus Loving God is believing in him worshiping him in spirit and truth. not only in words but in deeds also.The Father , the Son and the Holy Spirit are One. so in this you need to pay attention to what you are saying. The Messaih is the Logos Incarnate who is The Only Begotten Son,Wisdom, and Power of the Father.

Read the previous quotes of the Gospel of John.

Salvation is through the Son.
Drawing near to the Father is Through the Son
Acquiring the Spirit is through the Son.
He that has the Son has the Father and the Spirit.

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1“I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. 2Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. 4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. 5I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned. 7If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples. 9As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Abide in my love. 10If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love. 11These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full.

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 21But all these things they will do to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have been guilty of sin,c but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23Whoever hates me hates my Father also. 24If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin, but now they have seen and hated both me and my Father.

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26“But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.



so my brother which part of' with out me you can do nothing' is difficult to understand? we can be fruitful by abiding in the Son and that fruit the Father will be pleased in, those that remain and never bear fruit, the Father prunes( scary if you ask me) however, honoring and loving God the Father can never be complete without believing in the Son and that is always meaningfully done in the Spirit. if man could have been saved by works alone Christ need not have come.

If death and corruption could have been defeated by works alone The Savior need not have come and once he did , his death would have been in vain.

The son always says 'Come to the Father' to help us do that, the Holy Spirit has come to us from the Father through the Son. now then our work can be spiritual only when it holds the sweet fragrance of the Spirit, who bears witness about the Son."And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son." 1John 5:11

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 04:59:00 PM »

I drive by about 47 churches on my way to work. And the drive lasts fewer than 15 minutes.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 05:21:47 PM »

the observant Christians

Lol! That's about 0.01%
my brother, you are not God and you do not know how many of his there are. only he does, remember what the Lord said to the Prophet Elijah when he said 'I am the only one left' 1Kings 19:10,14.

In any case what is it to you, how many there are? if the whole world started to worship Satan does that alter the truth of Orthodoxy? shall we abandon Christ based on statistics? shall we migrate towards the broader way, where many travel so we can follow the crowd? what are you saying?

in Christianity we pray to remain faithful until our last breath, regardless of the number of people who share our Faith. however that does not mean we will not pray for the world. no we love the world in the love of Christ and will pray for the salvation of all, so all may come into the Light and the Life. This does not give us the leeway to pray and behave like that Pharisee. rather we keep saying 'Lord Jesus Christ , Son of God, Have mercy on us ,Sinners!'

All are Children of God, and He loves them all deeply. they are all beautiful and precious to Him. keep in mind He is their Father, their Creator, and their Savior. He knows each by their names , their very hairs are counted and known by him, and his mercy knows no limit, keep that in your heart.

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 06:14:21 PM »

True religion is to perform deeds of love for your fellow man.  Prayer is ancillary.
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 06:34:02 PM »

the observant Christians

Lol! That's about 0.01%
my brother, you are not God and you do not know how many of his there are. only he does, remember what the Lord said to the Prophet Elijah when he said 'I am the only one left' 1Kings 19:10,14.

In any case what is it to you, how many there are? if the whole world started to worship Satan does that alter the truth of Orthodoxy? shall we abandon Christ based on statistics? shall we migrate towards the broader way, where many travel so we can follow the crowd? what are you saying?

in Christianity we pray to remain faithful until our last breath, regardless of the number of people who share our Faith. however that does not mean we will not pray for the world. no we love the world in the love of Christ and will pray for the salvation of all, so all may come into the Light and the Life. This does not give us the leeway to pray and behave like that Pharisee. rather we keep saying 'Lord Jesus Christ , Son of God, Have mercy on us ,Sinners!'

All are Children of God, and He loves them all deeply. they are all beautiful and precious to Him. keep in mind He is their Father, their Creator, and their Savior. He knows each by their names , their very hairs are counted and known by him, and his mercy knows no limit, keep that in your heart.



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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 07:26:43 PM »

I spend more time contemplating on philosophy associated with God than I actually do worshipping Him. I only worship Him on Sunday at Liturgy to be honest, something I really need to get over. But what is this about Muslims being more spiritual than Christians? This is something I would have to disagree with. Islam seems like a very cut-down, basic religion. I see no amazing monks of Islam, nor any amazing Islamic philosophers who developed complex, abstract doctrines and philosophies like St. Athanasius or heychasm etc.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 07:43:05 PM »

True religion is to perform deeds of love for your fellow man.  Prayer is ancillary.

I disagree, I think they go hand in hand. The Christian who performs acts of mercy without prayer is no better off than the Christian who prays without performing acts of mercy. They were never meant to be set up in opposition such that one would become ancillary to another.
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2012, 07:47:51 PM »

the observant Christians

Lol! That's about 0.01%

How do you know?
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 08:20:49 PM »

the observant Christians

Lol! That's about 0.01%

seriously, this whole thread wreaks of judgmentalism towards christians from the start, and you made that intention abundantly clear by this post. Take care of the own plank in your eye, buddy.
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2012, 08:45:47 PM »

I spend more time contemplating on philosophy associated with God than I actually do worshipping Him. I only worship Him on Sunday at Liturgy to be honest, something I really need to get over. But what is this about Muslims being more spiritual than Christians? This is something I would have to disagree with. Islam seems like a very cut-down, basic religion. I see no amazing monks of Islam, nor any amazing Islamic philosophers who developed complex, abstract doctrines and philosophies like St. Athanasius or heychasm etc.

Please, study Sufism and you will never say that again!
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 08:54:20 PM »

I love reading the Bible. I guess you can call me a Bible worshipper, but there is no other text quite as fascinating as the Bible. There's parts of it I really get hung up on, but for the most part I really enjoy it. If there is one element that really draws me into the Old Testament is how unabashed it is. Then on the New Testament is how immediate the Gospel is to me and there really is little wiggle room to disagree.

My prayer life is on and off. I don't have an athelete's mind here, but it's something that I need to set aside during my busy schedule to do. I'm still very much a work in progress.

Going to Church is fantastic. I wish my schedule allowed me to go to Vespers and other feast days, but Sunday DL's is like a spiritual retreat for me every week.
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2012, 09:01:43 PM »

Does posting here count?
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Science is a spiritual practice.
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2012, 09:27:21 PM »

We pray without ceasing because the spiritual struggle is never-ending until death.

Thank you for this.  Smiley
1 Thessolonians 5:17 - Pray without ceasing.

Unfortunately, I do cease in prayer.  My mind, heart, and emotions very often reflect on God.  Perhaps without being able to describe, I often feel like I'm emotionally praying to God without words?? if that makes sense... With that included, many hours a day.

With words alone, including before meals, and reading the bible, its hard to put an actual number but probably an hour or so...
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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2012, 09:31:28 PM »

Science is a spiritual practice.
Not if it is mired in materialism.
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I drive by about 47 churches on my way to work. And the drive lasts fewer than 15 minutes.

I would be curious, in a non condescending way, of what would bring you to a religious forum if that is all the "time" or "thing you do" for spirituality/religion.   I'm just curious, that is all, nothing loaded here. Smiley
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I drive by about 47 churches on my way to work. And the drive lasts fewer than 15 minutes.

I would be curious, in a non condescending way, of what would bring you to a religious forum if that is all the "time" or "thing you do" for spirituality/religion.   I'm just curious, that is all, nothing loaded here. Smiley

Who said that is all I do?

But that is no overstatement. And I believe it must be edifying.

And again with the adjectives.

This is not a "religious forum". It is a forum ostensibly about OC, which you might consider a religion, but usually it is about everything else.

At least say it is a forum about religion, in which case, anyone with an interest or knowledge about religion can participate.

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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2012, 10:01:38 PM »

I drive by about 47 churches on my way to work. And the drive lasts fewer than 15 minutes.

I would be curious, in a non condescending way, of what would bring you to a religious forum if that is all the "time" or "thing you do" for spirituality/religion.   I'm just curious, that is all, nothing loaded here. Smiley

Who said that is all I do?

But that is no overstatement. And I believe it must be edifying.

And again with the adjectives.

This is not a "religious forum". It is a forum ostensibly about OC, which you might consider a religion, but usually it is about everything else.

At least say it is a forum about religion, in which case, anyone with an interest or knowledge about religion can participate.


Okay.   Thanks!

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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2012, 10:10:36 PM »


This is not a "religious forum". It is a forum ostensibly about OC, which you might consider a religion, but usually it is about everything else.


This is the truest thing I've ever heard on a Christian discussion forum! Thanks for the honestly.
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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2012, 11:27:03 PM »

Does posting here count?
Lol, that was my first thought too.

Prayer in the morning about a minute for myself and then about 10 to 15 minutes of prayer and Bible with my children. on the way to school/work. After I get to work a couple minutes of prayer.

At noon most workdays 30 minutes of prayer and reading the Fathers.

Before I leave work in the evening a couple minutes of prayer time.

In the evening about 30 minutes of prayer Bible reading and lives of the Saints with my family.

Another short prayer by my self at bedtime.

Working at being more consistant about praying before supper.

And periodic random prayer throughout the day.

Also I periodically sing Orthodox songs when they pop into my head, and usually play Orthodox internet radio in the background when I'm not interviewing someone at work.

Also I do make it a point to pray at least once for all the prayer requests I come across here or on facebook, and in prayer chain e-mails I get from a group I'm in. Some of the internet based requests I do intergrate into the rest of my prayers as well.

On weekends I tend to slack off a bit on everything but the evening prayers and the internet based stuff.

We go to Divine Liturgy every Sunday and Sat. Vespers every other week. But then we live just over an hour away from our Church.
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« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2012, 12:17:18 AM »

My spiritual life here at college has really suffered. I'm not the type to party or engage in sexual debauchery, but being 1 hour from the nearest Orthodox church has caused my life to suffer just from the separation. Being home and able to attend an Orthodox church is amazing.

I spend more time contemplating on philosophy associated with God than I actually do worshipping Him. I only worship Him on Sunday at Liturgy to be honest, something I really need to get over. But what is this about Muslims being more spiritual than Christians? This is something I would have to disagree with. Islam seems like a very cut-down, basic religion. I see no amazing monks of Islam, nor any amazing Islamic philosophers who developed complex, abstract doctrines and philosophies like St. Athanasius or heychasm etc.

There's actually several famous Ottoman philosophers. Perhaps the biggest name, though, is Averroes. Same with theologians like Bedreddin. Loads of scientific advances in the Ottoman Empire as well.
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« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2012, 03:32:14 AM »

True religion is to perform deeds of love for your fellow man.  Prayer is ancillary.

I disagree, I think they go hand in hand. The Christian who performs acts of mercy without prayer is no better off than the Christian who prays without performing acts of mercy. They were never meant to be set up in opposition such that one would become ancillary to another.

Good deeds are prayer.
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« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2012, 04:57:05 AM »

Does posting here count?

If not, my upward limit mentioned in the second post goes from about six hours to 30 minutes  Cheesy
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« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2012, 06:38:20 AM »

Lol! That's about 0.01%

I haven't interrogated them all personally, but I would say that a majority of the Orthodox people I know at least try to pray 30-60mins a day. Of course, these are the ones who go to church, but I know plenty of secular Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists too, so I think the comparison is fair.  Unless by 'observant' you're thinking only about monastics, but then you're talking about 5-6hours in church a day, not to mention the additional time devoted to private prayer.
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« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2012, 07:12:54 AM »

Does posting here count?
Lol, that was my first thought too.

Prayer in the morning about a minute for myself and then about 10 to 15 minutes of prayer and Bible with my children. on the way to school/work. After I get to work a couple minutes of prayer.

At noon most workdays 30 minutes of prayer and reading the Fathers.

Before I leave work in the evening a couple minutes of prayer time.

In the evening about 30 minutes of prayer Bible reading and lives of the Saints with my family.

Another short prayer by my self at bedtime.

Working at being more consistant about praying before supper.

And periodic random prayer throughout the day.

Also I periodically sing Orthodox songs when they pop into my head, and usually play Orthodox internet radio in the background when I'm not interviewing someone at work.

Also I do make it a point to pray at least once for all the prayer requests I come across here or on facebook, and in prayer chain e-mails I get from a group I'm in. Some of the internet based requests I do intergrate into the rest of my prayers as well.

On weekends I tend to slack off a bit on everything but the evening prayers and the internet based stuff.

We go to Divine Liturgy every Sunday and Sat. Vespers every other week. But then we live just over an hour away from our Church.

This gives me hope in Christianity. Thank you for posting this as an exemplar lifestyle. The thing about "closing your door and praying in secret so that no one knows what you are doing" has been horrifically misinterpreted by the pathetic masses. Yashua was intentionally overstating the point to get his message across about the pharisees who pompously prayed with 20 ft. long robes on the street side. In actuality, he also said to let your light shine in the world so that everyone can see your deeds and praise God. It's time for Christians to come out of their closets and stop being cowards about prayer. Everyone should pray in front of the world for all to see. Thank you for being righteous.
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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2012, 07:27:07 AM »

Does posting here count?
Lol, that was my first thought too.

Prayer in the morning about a minute for myself and then about 10 to 15 minutes of prayer and Bible with my children. on the way to school/work. After I get to work a couple minutes of prayer.

At noon most workdays 30 minutes of prayer and reading the Fathers.

Before I leave work in the evening a couple minutes of prayer time.

In the evening about 30 minutes of prayer Bible reading and lives of the Saints with my family.

Another short prayer by my self at bedtime.

Working at being more consistant about praying before supper.

And periodic random prayer throughout the day.

Also I periodically sing Orthodox songs when they pop into my head, and usually play Orthodox internet radio in the background when I'm not interviewing someone at work.

Also I do make it a point to pray at least once for all the prayer requests I come across here or on facebook, and in prayer chain e-mails I get from a group I'm in. Some of the internet based requests I do intergrate into the rest of my prayers as well.

On weekends I tend to slack off a bit on everything but the evening prayers and the internet based stuff.

We go to Divine Liturgy every Sunday and Sat. Vespers every other week. But then we live just over an hour away from our Church.

This gives me hope in Christianity. Thank you for posting this as an exemplar lifestyle. The thing about "closing your door and praying in secret so that no one knows what you are doing" has been horrifically misinterpreted by the pathetic masses. Yashua was intentionally overstating the point to get his message across about the pharisees who pompously prayed with 20 ft. long robes on the street side. In actuality, he also said to let your light shine in the world so that everyone can see your deeds and praise God. It's time for Christians to come out of their closets and stop being cowards about prayer. Everyone should pray in front of the world for all to see. Thank you for being righteous.
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« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2012, 08:57:28 AM »

Does posting here count?
Lol, that was my first thought too.

Prayer in the morning about a minute for myself and then about 10 to 15 minutes of prayer and Bible with my children. on the way to school/work. After I get to work a couple minutes of prayer.

At noon most workdays 30 minutes of prayer and reading the Fathers.

Before I leave work in the evening a couple minutes of prayer time.

In the evening about 30 minutes of prayer Bible reading and lives of the Saints with my family.

Another short prayer by my self at bedtime.

Working at being more consistant about praying before supper.

And periodic random prayer throughout the day.

Also I periodically sing Orthodox songs when they pop into my head, and usually play Orthodox internet radio in the background when I'm not interviewing someone at work.

Also I do make it a point to pray at least once for all the prayer requests I come across here or on facebook, and in prayer chain e-mails I get from a group I'm in. Some of the internet based requests I do intergrate into the rest of my prayers as well.

On weekends I tend to slack off a bit on everything but the evening prayers and the internet based stuff.

We go to Divine Liturgy every Sunday and Sat. Vespers every other week. But then we live just over an hour away from our Church.

This gives me hope in Christianity. Thank you for posting this as an exemplar lifestyle. The thing about "closing your door and praying in secret so that no one knows what you are doing" has been horrifically misinterpreted by the pathetic masses. Yashua was intentionally overstating the point to get his message across about the pharisees who pompously prayed with 20 ft. long robes on the street side. In actuality, he also said to let your light shine in the world so that everyone can see your deeds and praise God. It's time for Christians to come out of their closets and stop being cowards about prayer. Everyone should pray in front of the world for all to see. Thank you for being righteous.

And thank you for making me feel better about my bouts of self-righteousness and generally jerkery (tm).  You do realize that you hurt your cause when you act like a complete and total pompous ass, yes?
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« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2012, 12:47:51 PM »

Does posting here count?
Lol, that was my first thought too.

Prayer in the morning about a minute for myself and then about 10 to 15 minutes of prayer and Bible with my children. on the way to school/work. After I get to work a couple minutes of prayer.

At noon most workdays 30 minutes of prayer and reading the Fathers.

Before I leave work in the evening a couple minutes of prayer time.

In the evening about 30 minutes of prayer Bible reading and lives of the Saints with my family.

Another short prayer by my self at bedtime.

Working at being more consistant about praying before supper.

And periodic random prayer throughout the day.

Also I periodically sing Orthodox songs when they pop into my head, and usually play Orthodox internet radio in the background when I'm not interviewing someone at work.

Also I do make it a point to pray at least once for all the prayer requests I come across here or on facebook, and in prayer chain e-mails I get from a group I'm in. Some of the internet based requests I do intergrate into the rest of my prayers as well.

On weekends I tend to slack off a bit on everything but the evening prayers and the internet based stuff.

We go to Divine Liturgy every Sunday and Sat. Vespers every other week. But then we live just over an hour away from our Church.

This gives me hope in Christianity. Thank you for posting this as an exemplar lifestyle. The thing about "closing your door and praying in secret so that no one knows what you are doing" has been horrifically misinterpreted by the pathetic masses. Yashua was intentionally overstating the point to get his message across about the pharisees who pompously prayed with 20 ft. long robes on the street side. In actuality, he also said to let your light shine in the world so that everyone can see your deeds and praise God. It's time for Christians to come out of their closets and stop being cowards about prayer. Everyone should pray in front of the world for all to see. Thank you for being righteous.

And thank you for making me feel better about my bouts of self-righteousness and generally jerkery (tm).  You do realize that you hurt your cause when you act like a complete and total pompous ass, yes?

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« Reply #39 on: May 04, 2012, 12:54:43 PM »

Only the heathens cuss. I'm glad I'm not one of them!

Swearing is about culture, not spirituality. The most you could argue is that it would be so improper as to be immoral to swear in certain contexts (e.g. berating a child with cuss words). But contexts vary considerably, and the acceptance and/or meaning of words change over time. (one of my favorite phrases is the KJV "pisseth against the wall").
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« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2012, 12:55:42 PM »

Only the heathens cuss. I'm glad I'm not one of them!

So, dear brother, how much time do you spend in prayer, how rigorously do you fast, how much do you give to charity, and what do you do to guard your eyes and ears from evil on a daily basis? Being among the righteous, I'd be interested in hearing what you do to consider yourself as such.
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« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2012, 01:04:11 PM »

It's hard for me to read from a prayer book because of all the danged uncreated light in my eyes.

With that said, I only use a prayer rope...
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« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2012, 01:21:15 PM »

Only the heathens cuss. I'm glad I'm not one of them!

So, dear brother, how much time do you spend in prayer, how rigorously do you fast, how much do you give to charity, and what do you do to guard your eyes and ears from evil on a daily basis? Being among the righteous, I'd be interested in hearing what you do to consider yourself as such.

I wake up an hour before the sunrise to pray and meditate. Usually I walk deep into the forest in the afternoon to meditate for one to two hours. In total I worship, pray, and meditate five times per day. This is not supererogatory.
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« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2012, 01:38:43 PM »

Only the heathens cuss. I'm glad I'm not one of them!

So, dear brother, how much time do you spend in prayer, how rigorously do you fast, how much do you give to charity, and what do you do to guard your eyes and ears from evil on a daily basis? Being among the righteous, I'd be interested in hearing what you do to consider yourself as such.

I wake up an hour before the sunrise to pray and meditate. Usually I walk deep into the forest in the afternoon to meditate for one to two hours. In total I worship, pray, and meditate five times per day. This is not supererogatory.

Out of curiosity, what is your idea of meditation?
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« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2012, 02:06:29 PM »

Only the heathens cuss. I'm glad I'm not one of them!

So, dear brother, how much time do you spend in prayer, how rigorously do you fast, how much do you give to charity, and what do you do to guard your eyes and ears from evil on a daily basis? Being among the righteous, I'd be interested in hearing what you do to consider yourself as such.

I wake up an hour before the sunrise to pray and meditate. Usually I walk deep into the forest in the afternoon to meditate for one to two hours. In total I worship, pray, and meditate five times per day. This is not supererogatory.

Out of curiosity, what is your idea of meditation?

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