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I don't know what they called this mystic reality in Aramaic or Hebrew. But i know for a fact that the universal meditation gnosis was practiced by the Essenes and was taught by Yashua to The Twelve Holy Apostles and that it has continued down to the present day. I know this from my experience coupled with reading scriptures. Also, this has been confirmed to humankind by Sri Sri Paramahansa Yogananda Ji who referred to Yashua and the Apostles as Master Yogis, as that is the word used in his spiritual tradition. Uniting to the Cosmic Consciousness by meditation is absolutely the only way to attain salvation. That is why Yashua came.  You have been infomed that, as a non-Orthodox Christian, you are not allowed to present your teachings and beliefs in the Faith Issues subsection. 20 days of warning - Michał Kalina |
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 05:54:47 PM » |
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Is that official "Original Monotheism" doctrine?
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"The only-begotten Son of God, wanting us to be partakers of his divinity, assumed our human nature so that, having become man, he might make men gods." - St. Thomas Aquinas
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amartin
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 05:57:07 PM » |
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Its just my opinion.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 06:00:50 PM » |
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What does this meditation and/or hesychasm consist of? People seem to mean different things when these words are used (e.g., one person will talk about meditating on Scripture, and make it a very intellectualized activity, while another person will speak of meditation as the emptying of your mind of all thoughts)
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amartin
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 06:09:57 PM » |
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What does this meditation and/or hesychasm consist of? People seem to mean different things when these words are used (e.g., one person will talk about meditating on Scripture, and make it a very intellectualized activity, while another person will speak of meditation as the emptying of your mind of all thoughts)
Its not meditating on scripture. But it is necessary to empty oneself from thoughts. In my studies, its the same thing as Holy Hesychasm. Praise unto Yashua who has rightly revealed. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 06:23:10 PM » |
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What does this meditation and/or hesychasm consist of? People seem to mean different things when these words are used (e.g., one person will talk about meditating on Scripture, and make it a very intellectualized activity, while another person will speak of meditation as the emptying of your mind of all thoughts)
Its not meditating on scripture. But it is necessary to empty oneself from thoughts. In my studies, its the same thing as Holy Hesychasm. Praise unto Yashua who has rightly revealed. Hesychasm is union with Jesus Christ, not a supra-personal cosmic absolute. Read the writings of Fr. Sophrony Sakharov. |
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주 예수 그리스도 하느님의 아들이시여 저 이 죄인을 불쌍히 여기소서.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 06:46:49 PM » |
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I don't know what they called this mystic reality in Aramaic or Hebrew. But i know for a fact that the universal meditation gnosis was practiced by the Essenes and was taught by Yashua to The Twelve Holy Apostles and that it has continued down to the present day. I know this from my experience coupled with reading scriptures. Also, this has been confirmed to humankind by Sri Sri Paramahansa Yogananda Ji who referred to Yashua and the Apostles as Master Yogis, as that is the word used in his spiritual tradition. Uniting to the Cosmic Consciousness by meditation is absolutely the only way to attain salvation. That is why Yashua came.
I tried to find the Sanskrit cognate to "hesychasm". ("Helios" has the Sanskrit cognate "surya".) The closest Sanskrit I could find was "sakura", meaning "quiet, tame". |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 07:24:52 PM » |
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I don't know what they called this mystic reality in Aramaic or Hebrew. But i know for a fact that the universal meditation gnosis was practiced by the Essenes and was taught by Yashua to The Twelve Holy Apostles and that it has continued down to the present day. I know this from my experience coupled with reading scriptures. Also, this has been confirmed to humankind by Sri Sri Paramahansa Yogananda Ji who referred to Yashua and the Apostles as Master Yogis, as that is the word used in his spiritual tradition. Uniting to the Cosmic Consciousness by meditation is absolutely the only way to attain salvation. That is why Yashua came.
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O Master Lord our God...who are wondrous in glory; who keeps his covenant and his mercy to them who love him with all their heart; who has given us redemption...through his only-begotten son, Jesus Christ...the life of everyone, the help of those who flee to him, the hope of those who cry to him.
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 07:43:43 PM » |
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amartin
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 07:45:17 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 09:50:06 PM » |
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LOL @ the photo.
I can't remember much scripture of Yeshua/Jesus Christ teaching the apostle to meditate or to become Gurus/Yogis. I don't even recall the writings of early Christians referencing to meditate as a Yogi.
I don't think our savior Jesus Christ, sat around with his eyes shut like some kind of mystic guru as he was shown in the 70's movie "Jesus of Nazareth".
Honestly, if you know so much of who Christ was, please enlighten the forum of sources showing how he was teaching the apostles deep yogi like meditation.
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 10:23:24 PM » |
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LOL @ the photo.
I can't remember much scripture of Yeshua/Jesus Christ teaching the apostle to meditate or to become Gurus/Yogis. I don't even recall the writings of early Christians referencing to meditate as a Yogi.
Jesus told several people to come and follow Him. One form of Yoga (Guru-Bhakti Yoga) involves paying attention to the person of the Guru (simply "teacher", though possibly more than that) and following the Guru's teachings, teachings that might not involve any complicated, formal meditative acts as found in, say, raja yoga. |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 10:32:30 PM » |
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LOL @ the photo.
I can't remember much scripture of Yeshua/Jesus Christ teaching the apostle to meditate or to become Gurus/Yogis. I don't even recall the writings of early Christians referencing to meditate as a Yogi.
Jesus told several people to come and follow Him. One form of Yoga (Guru-Bhakti Yoga) involves paying attention to the person of the Guru (simply "teacher", though possibly more than that) and following the Guru's teachings, teachings that might not involve any complicated, formal meditative acts as found in, say, raja yoga. When comparative religion goes bad . . . But then again does it ever go right? |
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 10:40:25 PM » |
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Jesus taught the twelve to be silent, so they went to the nations giving speeches that got them killed. Sounds about right.
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2012, 11:22:05 PM » |
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Jesus taught the twelve to be silent, so they went to the nations giving speeches that got them killed. Sounds about right.
Who says hesychasm is about external silence, i.e. not talking? It's about inner silence. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2012, 12:42:44 AM » |
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Jesus taught the twelve to be silent, so they went to the nations giving speeches that got them killed. Sounds about right.
Who says hesychasm is about external silence, i.e. not talking? It's about inner silence. You're not fun at this. |
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2012, 12:56:46 AM » |
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Jesus taught the twelve to be silent, so they went to the nations giving speeches that got them killed. Sounds about right.
Who says hesychasm is about external silence, i.e. not talking? It's about inner silence. You're not fun at this. would it help if i said i laughed when i first read your post?  |
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2012, 01:19:04 AM » |
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