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« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2012, 12:19:28 AM »

Going in silence is worth consideration. We are always surrounded by noise, it is nice to have a break and just enjoy silence; that is until someone honks their horn!
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« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2012, 11:46:53 AM »

My big issue with CCM is that many of the "artists" do little more than rip off secular music. It tends to be pretty bad IMHO.

I'd much rather take a band of christians or a singer who is Christian (U2, Switchfoot), then a christian band or a "christian singer" if you take my meaning.

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« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2012, 01:33:59 PM »

How do you make the most degenerate elements of pop culture even worse? By making "Christian" versions of them.
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« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2012, 01:39:45 PM »

How do you make the most degenerate elements of pop culture even worse? By making "Christian" versions of them.

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« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2012, 01:47:40 PM »

Rock music of any kind reminds me of my old life,  a life I wish to put far, far behind me.  

The other day an old Evangelical friend gave me a ride in her car and she had a CCM station playing.  My toes curled.  Just couldn't help it.  

So for me and maybe for others,  CCM (and secular contemporary music) is a visceral reminder of a past many of us are ashamed of, not just because of the music itself but all that things that went along with it.  For the pure in heart all things are pure but I am not pure in heart.
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« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2012, 02:15:00 PM »

i listen to public radio or our local classic rock station.
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« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2012, 02:27:45 PM »

This is how to enjoy music in the car, Xenia. Tell your Protestant friends. Grin
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« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2012, 06:07:34 PM »

My big issue with CCM is that many of the "artists" do little more than rip off secular music. It tends to be pretty bad IMHO.

I'd much rather take a band of christians or a singer who is Christian (U2, Switchfoot), then a christian band or a "christian singer" if you take my meaning.

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When you say they "rip off secular music" do you mean that they create, essentially, Christian parodies of secular songs, or do you mean that they do what every other recording artist does, and uses similar chord progressions and such things as secular artists in their genre (such as Christian rock musicians using a similar musical style as secular rock musicians - who are also generally using a very similar style).
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« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2012, 07:19:59 AM »

Most of my non-religious musical favorites include opera, show tunes and Lebanese pop (yeah, I know...).  I have never liked contemporary Christian music.  Some of it I do, such as traditional songs which are contemporary to our beloved Byzantine chants, like Bread of Heaven. 

The Christian club at school blared this music from their meeting room at lunch on occasion, and I really don't like it.  I would rather listen to Lady Gaga, to be honest. 

One of the things that got me off of my bum on a pew and onto the carpet, on my feet in an Orthodox Church was the music choice of other Churches.

May I recommend some good Orthodox artists?  You could perhaps create a CD to listen to, or take advantage of your car's USB capabilities if it has them.

Nuns of the Monastery of Saint Paisius
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKGPoE5L_LY

Eikona
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJipuoCREPE

You may enjoy music by more contemporary Orthodox Christian artists like Peter Jon Gillquist (which I have trouble getting into, but whatever floats your boat, as they say.)

You might check out this thread: http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?topic=7323.0

There is a plethora of Orthodox Christian music that is far more contemporary, which I intend to explore soon.  Nothing satisfies my mind and heart more than the voices of the monks of Simonopetro monastery.  I've not been to Church in a very long time, so It's wonderful to be in a prayerful state on my drive to school or my morning walk.
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« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2012, 09:24:10 AM »

My big issue with CCM is that many of the "artists" do little more than rip off secular music. It tends to be pretty bad IMHO.

I'd much rather take a band of christians or a singer who is Christian (U2, Switchfoot), then a christian band or a "christian singer" if you take my meaning.

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When you say they "rip off secular music" do you mean that they create, essentially, Christian parodies of secular songs, or do you mean that they do what every other recording artist does, and uses similar chord progressions and such things as secular artists in their genre (such as Christian rock musicians using a similar musical style as secular rock musicians - who are also generally using a very similar style).
Sorry, Im a musician, and I usually refrain from talking shop Smiley

Yeah its very similar chord progressions and similar tunings. IMHO the christian music industry is always 2 steps behind the secular world, so it  appears to be "a christian version" of such-and-such.

I really dont mean like folks are putting out a chrstian version of "baby hit me one more time" or anything but more like "hey man lets form a christian band and make it christian Slayer". *sigh*


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« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2012, 12:09:13 AM »

My big issue with CCM is that many of the "artists" do little more than rip off secular music. It tends to be pretty bad IMHO.

I'd much rather take a band of christians or a singer who is Christian (U2, Switchfoot), then a christian band or a "christian singer" if you take my meaning.

PP

When you say they "rip off secular music" do you mean that they create, essentially, Christian parodies of secular songs, or do you mean that they do what every other recording artist does, and uses similar chord progressions and such things as secular artists in their genre (such as Christian rock musicians using a similar musical style as secular rock musicians - who are also generally using a very similar style).
Sorry, Im a musician, and I usually refrain from talking shop Smiley

Yeah its very similar chord progressions and similar tunings. IMHO the christian music industry is always 2 steps behind the secular world, so it  appears to be "a christian version" of such-and-such.

I really dont mean like folks are putting out a chrstian version of "baby hit me one more time" or anything but more like "hey man lets form a christian band and make it christian Slayer". *sigh*


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But that is far from a Christian music problem, that is a problem with popular music in general; any number of bands have been accused of being ripoffs of some other band, and countless more artists and bands essentially are as well.  I don't think this is any more a problem with Christian music than with music in general (at least popular music).
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« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2012, 06:22:27 AM »

Serbian band 357

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Do you know who loves you mightily?

Do you know who loves you mightily?
Who watches over you day and night?
Who gives you abundantly,
To resist devil's power?

Do you know who gave you life?
Father, mother, a brother of yours?
And who illuminated you,
With a brilliant ray of His Spirit?

Do you know who died for us?
On Golgotha, do you know?
And who prepares,
The promised joys for you, do you know?

Do you know who loves you mightily?

You ought to know who does all that,
Who's the one that loves us so,
It is Lord from above,
It is Christ, Saviour for all!

So you too, oh, remember,
And give your heart to Him,
When you wrong Him, burst in tears,
And ask for forgiveness!

In the tear of repentance
Christ's shine shall glitter,
Put your trust in Him,
He shall open heaven to you!

Do you know who loves you mightily?

Znash li ko te lyubi silno?

Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
Ko te chuva dan i noch?
Ko ti daye izobilno,
Da odolish vragu moch?

Znash li ko ti zhivot dao?
Oca, mayku, brata tvog?
I ko te je obasyao,
Svetlim zrakom Duha svog?

Znahs li ko ye umro za nas?
Na Golgoti, znash li to?
I radosti obechane,
Ko ti sprema znash li to?

Znash li ko te lyubi silno?

Morash znati ko to chini,
Ko to tako lyubi nas,
To ye Gospod sa visine,
To ye Hristos, svima Spas!

Zato i ti, oh, seti se,
Pa mu svoye srce day,
Kad mu skrivish, zaplachi se,
I zamoli oproshtay!

U toj suzi pokajanja,
Zablistache Hristov syay,
Imay u Nyeg' pouzdanya,
Otvoriche tebi Ray!
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« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2012, 07:23:03 AM »

^ I think I have heard that one before.
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« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2012, 06:18:51 PM »

Serbian band 357

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJBC4vtcA3I

Do you know who loves you mightily?

Do you know who loves you mightily?
Who watches over you day and night?
Who gives you abundantly,
To resist devil's power?

Do you know who gave you life?
Father, mother, a brother of yours?
And who illuminated you,
With a brilliant ray of His Spirit?

Do you know who died for us?
On Golgotha, do you know?
And who prepares,
The promised joys for you, do you know?

Do you know who loves you mightily?

You ought to know who does all that,
Who's the one that loves us so,
It is Lord from above,
It is Christ, Saviour for all!

So you too, oh, remember,
And give your heart to Him,
When you wrong Him, burst in tears,
And ask for forgiveness!

In the tear of repentance
Christ's shine shall glitter,
Put your trust in Him,
He shall open heaven to you!

Do you know who loves you mightily?

Znash li ko te lyubi silno?

Znash li ko te lyubi silno?
Ko te chuva dan i noch?
Ko ti daye izobilno,
Da odolish vragu moch?

Znash li ko ti zhivot dao?
Oca, mayku, brata tvog?
I ko te je obasyao,
Svetlim zrakom Duha svog?

Znahs li ko ye umro za nas?
Na Golgoti, znash li to?
I radosti obechane,
Ko ti sprema znash li to?

Znash li ko te lyubi silno?

Morash znati ko to chini,
Ko to tako lyubi nas,
To ye Gospod sa visine,
To ye Hristos, svima Spas!

Zato i ti, oh, seti se,
Pa mu svoye srce day,
Kad mu skrivish, zaplachi se,
I zamoli oproshtay!

U toj suzi pokajanja,
Zablistache Hristov syay,
Imay u Nyeg' pouzdanya,
Otvoriche tebi Ray!

Just listened to it now, but I gotta say I kinda like it.
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« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2012, 08:50:01 PM »

I listen to 99% Phish.... The song "story of a ghost" quite theological Smiley
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« Reply #60 on: September 22, 2012, 10:24:01 PM »

But that is far from a Christian music problem, that is a problem with popular music in general; any number of bands have been accused of being ripoffs of some other band, and countless more artists and bands essentially are as well.  I don't think this is any more a problem with Christian music than with music in general (at least popular music).

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« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2012, 05:31:13 PM »

Just listened to it now, but I gotta say I kinda like it.

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Serbian band Darkwood Dub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrKRdTJffM
I couldn't find translation in English. Title of the song is: Help us Christ.
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« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2012, 07:31:20 PM »

Ooo, techno. My wife likes that. I'm saying it's not bad too.
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« Reply #63 on: October 01, 2012, 01:54:44 PM »

Ooo, techno. My wife likes that. I'm saying it's not bad too.

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Serbian band Partibrejkers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoran_Kosti%C4%87_%28musician%29)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rchCSZ5zqMk

Title of the song is: Whom Will I Praise?

Band leader Cane is devoted Christian, regularly attending Liturgy.

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« Reply #64 on: October 03, 2012, 03:51:28 AM »

Serbian band Beogradski Sindikat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beogradski_Sindikat)

Most of them are devoted Christians who regularly attend Liturgy.
Only this 2 videos I find with english translations.
Because they were strongly oposed to ex pro-western president Tadic and support patriotic and Orthodox view on Serbian actual problems, they are de facto banned from most of Serbian media (because they are owned from West).

Niko ne može da zna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wzxWRmRjgU

Demokrate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8wR5uR0TKI (fragment)
"Democrats" are party of ex President Tadic.
"Borhan Tadici" is Boris Tadic name satiric misspelled in albanian way.

More lyrics in English:
http://lyricstranslate.com/en/beogradski-sindikat-lyrics.html
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