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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) |
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 09:56:26 PM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Will they accept a minister who is willing to learn Welsh? |
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 09:59:29 PM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Will they accept a minister who is willing to learn Welsh? While I am not certain, I wouldn't imagine they would be willing to take in a minister and give him several years to pick up the language. In my Ukrainian church, you wouldn't get anywhere near the diaconate without having a certain level of Ukrainian--I would not be surprised if that was the situation here. |
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 06:51:02 PM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Wel, byddwn i'n cytuno i fod eu offeriad newydd nhw, os maen nhw'n cytuno i ymuno'r Eglwys Uniongred ;-) Well, I would agree to be their priest if they agree to join the Orthodox Church. Tad/Father John |
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 07:28:05 PM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Wel, byddwn i'n cytuno i fod eu offeriad newydd nhw, os maen nhw'n cytuno i ymuno'r Eglwys Uniongred ;-) Well, I would agree to be their priest if they agree to join the Orthodox Church. Tad/Father John Y dduw bo'r diolch. |
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"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2012, 07:39:58 PM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Wel, byddwn i'n cytuno i fod eu offeriad newydd nhw, os maen nhw'n cytuno i ymuno'r Eglwys Uniongred ;-) Well, I would agree to be their priest if they agree to join the Orthodox Church. Tad/Father John Y dduw bo'r diolch. Wyt ti'n siarad Cymraeg yn wir? Yn anffodus, pan ti'n postio rhwybeth yma, rhaid i ti bostio fo yn Saesneg, hefyd. (Do you really speak Welsh? Unfortunately, when you post something here, you need to post it in English, too). O leia, dyna beth naethon nhw ddweud i fi pan nes i bostio yn Wcreineg heb Saesneg. (At least, that's what they told me when I wrote in Ukrainian without an English translation). Tad Ioan |
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2012, 07:41:27 PM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Wel, byddwn i'n cytuno i fod eu offeriad newydd nhw, os maen nhw'n cytuno i ymuno'r Eglwys Uniongred ;-) Well, I would agree to be their priest if they agree to join the Orthodox Church. Tad/Father John Y dduw bo'r diolch. Wyt ti'n siarad Cymraeg yn wir? Yn anffodus, pan ti'n postio rhwybeth yma, rhaid i ti bostio fo yn Saesneg, hefyd. (Do you really speak Welsh? Unfortunately, when you post something here, you need to post it in English, too). O leia, dyna beth naethon nhw ddweud i fi pan nes i bostio yn Wcreineg heb Saesneg. (At least, that's what they told me when I wrote in Ukrainian without an English translation). Tad Ioan I'm on the long path of learning Welsh. That's all I know so far. :-) |
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Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
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"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 07:42:31 PM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Wel, byddwn i'n cytuno i fod eu offeriad newydd nhw, os maen nhw'n cytuno i ymuno'r Eglwys Uniongred ;-) Well, I would agree to be their priest if they agree to join the Orthodox Church. Tad/Father John Y dduw bo'r diolch. Wyt ti'n siarad Cymraeg yn wir? Yn anffodus, pan ti'n postio rhwybeth yma, rhaid i ti bostio fo yn Saesneg, hefyd. (Do you really speak Welsh? Unfortunately, when you post something here, you need to post it in English, too). O leia, dyna beth naethon nhw ddweud i fi pan nes i bostio yn Wcreineg heb Saesneg. (At least, that's what they told me when I wrote in Ukrainian without an English translation). Tad Ioan I'm on the long path of learning Welsh. That's all I know so far. :-) I could help you. Some methods are a lot better than others. :-) |
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 08:13:37 PM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Wel, byddwn i'n cytuno i fod eu offeriad newydd nhw, os maen nhw'n cytuno i ymuno'r Eglwys Uniongred ;-) Well, I would agree to be their priest if they agree to join the Orthodox Church. Tad/Father John Y dduw bo'r diolch. Wyt ti'n siarad Cymraeg yn wir? Yn anffodus, pan ti'n postio rhwybeth yma, rhaid i ti bostio fo yn Saesneg, hefyd. (Do you really speak Welsh? Unfortunately, when you post something here, you need to post it in English, too). O leia, dyna beth naethon nhw ddweud i fi pan nes i bostio yn Wcreineg heb Saesneg. (At least, that's what they told me when I wrote in Ukrainian without an English translation). Tad Ioan I'm on the long path of learning Welsh. That's all I know so far. :-) I could help you. Some methods are a lot better than others. :-) I'd be interesting in learning Welsh as well.  |
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 08:33:44 PM » |
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I could help you. Some methods are a lot better than others. :-)
I just realized that Rosetta Stone discontinued their Welsh program. |
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"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2012, 12:11:01 AM » |
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I could help you. Some methods are a lot better than others. :-)
I just realized that Rosetta Stone discontinued their Welsh program. Teach Yourself still makes one. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2012, 03:00:13 PM » |
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I'd be interesting in learning Welsh as well. "Say Something in Welsh" is far and away, hands down, the best and easiest way of learning Welsh. The lessons are clear and effective, the support on the forums is wonderful, and the people involved in making the course are very friendly. Using their courses, you will end up actually speaking Welsh, fluently and correctly. As a speaker of 7-10+ languages (depending on the level), this is the best language learning system I have found so far, and the only one that beats out the Pimsleur. They have both a North Welsh and a South Welsh course: http://www.saysomethingin.com/welsh/index.phpIn Christ, Fr. John |
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2012, 03:44:31 PM » |
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You should get in touch with them Fr. John - perhaps they could join the Archdiocese's Western Rites Vicariate :-). After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Wel, byddwn i'n cytuno i fod eu offeriad newydd nhw, os maen nhw'n cytuno i ymuno'r Eglwys Uniongred ;-) Well, I would agree to be their priest if they agree to join the Orthodox Church. Tad/Father John |
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2012, 02:24:22 PM » |
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I'd be interesting in learning Welsh as well. "Say Something in Welsh" is far and away, hands down, the best and easiest way of learning Welsh. The lessons are clear and effective, the support on the forums is wonderful, and the people involved in making the course are very friendly. Using their courses, you will end up actually speaking Welsh, fluently and correctly. As a speaker of 7-10+ languages (depending on the level), this is the best language learning system I have found so far, and the only one that beats out the Pimsleur. They have both a North Welsh and a South Welsh course: http://www.saysomethingin.com/welsh/index.phpIn Christ, Fr. John I had bookmarked this site sometime ago--thanks for the ringing endorsement, I'll take another look! |
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 10:27:57 AM » |
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After a fruitless 11-month search, Canada’s last remaining Welsh church is finding it harder than expected to find a minister who can speak Welsh.
“It’s a very shallow pond,” said Betty Cullingworth, a member of the congregation at Dewi Sant Welsh United Church, North America’s only Welsh-language church, in north Toronto. I thought this was interesting, a taste of the issues we could have in ethnic parishes if they weren't able to track down priests in the old country, or current seminarians were resistant to learning the language and supporting culture as perhaps parishioners might wish. (Sorry about the thread title, which sounds a tad pitch-y.) Wel, byddwn i'n cytuno i fod eu offeriad newydd nhw, os maen nhw'n cytuno i ymuno'r Eglwys Uniongred ;-) Well, I would agree to be their priest if they agree to join the Orthodox Church. Tad/Father John Y dduw bo'r diolch. Wyt ti'n siarad Cymraeg yn wir? Yn anffodus, pan ti'n postio rhwybeth yma, rhaid i ti bostio fo yn Saesneg, hefyd. (Do you really speak Welsh? Unfortunately, when you post something here, you need to post it in English, too). O leia, dyna beth naethon nhw ddweud i fi pan nes i bostio yn Wcreineg heb Saesneg. (At least, that's what they told me when I wrote in Ukrainian without an English translation). Tad Ioan This is why there's a foreign language board! Here is the link to the "other languages" board on the forum. feel free to strike up a conversation! http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/board,32.0.html |
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2012, 05:26:25 PM » |
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My gosh, and here I thought Welsh was a dead language. I am glad it's not though, people should know their own language...Hmmm! And here I thought English dominated the British Isles?  |
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2012, 06:08:51 PM » |
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And here I thought English dominated the British Isles? God forfend! |
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In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
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"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
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