Topic: I Formally Renounce Christianity

[biro]

The Essenes were a Jewish sect, weren't they? Anyway, when are you going to quit the b.s.?

NO! The Essenes were absolutely not a Jewish sect. The Jews were from the tribe of Judah that went astray while held captive in Babylon. Their priestly scribes invented the False Law of Moses that requires animal sacrifices. The ancient Essenes had a completely different Law from Moses which was very simple, and was re-established by Yashua. The Essenes are absolutely not Jewish in any way whatsoever. Abraham, Moses, and Yashua were not Jews. Judaism was the religion of a tribe that become one of the two kingdoms in the land. Don't be duped.

That'd be a big surprise to all the Jewish people I've ever met.

Kid, knock it off, we know you're pulling our collective leg.

[amartin]

What a bunch of stupid, arrogant, and useless hippie crap. So the entire world went into apostasy except for your reconstituted (read: made up) sect, which lives on via internet websites based in Oregon? What are the odds!

And why does Mary Magdalene look like La Toya Jackson?

The entire world IS in apostasy because they are not spiritual. Very few people are spiritual these days. This should be obvious. If you do not see that the world is in apostasy then you are spiritually blind. But people can be saved from any religion if they have a relationship with God, are faithful in their daily prayers, and do good deeds. Unfortunately, most religionists do nothing for their spirituality.

And i have no idea what that picture is.

[amartin]

You trust Jews? Did Abraham or Moses ever hear of the word Jew or Judaism??? No, absolutely not. Its made up by the Jews themselves. Do your research.

[NicholasMyra]

You trust Jews? Did Abraham or Moses ever hear of the word Jew or Judaism??? No, absolutely not. Its made up by the Jews themselves. Do your research.

5/10

[amartin]

The Essenes were a Jewish sect, weren't they? Anyway, when are you going to quit the b.s.?

NO! The Essenes were absolutely not a Jewish sect. The Jews were from the tribe of Judah that went astray while held captive in Babylon. Their priestly scribes invented the False Law of Moses that requires animal sacrifices. The ancient Essenes had a completely different Law from Moses which was very simple, and was re-established by Yashua. The Essenes are absolutely not Jewish in any way whatsoever. Abraham, Moses, and Yashua were not Jews. Judaism was the religion of a tribe that become one of the two kingdoms in the land. Don't be duped.

Do you have any peer-reviewed scholarship to back this up, or do you believe that scholars and historians are corrupt?

All you have to do is to research and think about it. The terms Jew and Judaism were invented by the Jews themselves. Abraham and Moses have never heard of the nonsense. They were not Jews.

[biro]

Oh boy, another roving fruitloop who has a theory on why his cult and no one else are the 'true Jews.'  Again, kid, give it a rest. And I thought the Yahweh ben Yahweh cult was goofy.

[biro]

You trust Jews? Did Abraham or Moses ever hear of the word Jew or Judaism??? No, absolutely not. Its made up by the Jews themselves. Do your research.

Hahahahahahahahaaahaha. Thanks, I needed a laugh.

[dzheremi]

The "spiritual" Essenes, with their ORIGINAL MONOTHEISM, never used the internet, either...guess you better go away forever, for fear of compromising your "spiritual" status.

[amartin]

Oh boy, another roving fruitloop who has a theory on why his cult and no one else are the 'true Jews.'  Again, kid, give it a rest. And I thought the Yahweh ben Yahweh cult was goofy.

What? I am not a Jew. The whole Judaism thing is b.s.

[biro]

What? I am not a Jew. The whole Judaism thing is b.s.

Aha! (slaps forehead)

 

Because that's where all truth is discovered- from angry, ignorant people on the Internet.

[Marc1152]

What a bunch of stupid, arrogant, and useless hippie crap. So the entire world went into apostasy except for your reconstituted (read: made up) sect, which lives on via internet websites based in Oregon? What are the odds!

And why does Mary Magdalene look like La Toya Jackson?

I was going to say, a much younger Oprah...

I think she looks like a mix between Oprah and Nicy from Reno 911, except slimmer.

[ZealousZeal]

Or, more likely, these ones?

Today is the Sunday of the Myrrhbearing women and what is this

Notice the double helix descending upon the holy spirit descending upon black mary magdalene.

She also seems to be Chipmunkbearing...

+ 30 billion. 

[dzheremi]

What? I am not a Jew. The whole Judaism thing is b.s.

Aha! (slaps forehead)

 

Because that's where all truth is discovered- from angry, ignorant people on the Internet.

Y-e-e-e-e-e-s!

Biro understands the internet.

[biro]

Grazie.   

[minasoliman]

This guy had to be at least related to ishaq:

http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1900

[Timon]

http://www.essene.org/Essene_Doctrine.htm#D11

This link seems to correlate somewhat with what our friend has been pushing.

We believe that the false apostle Paul, who certainly never met Yahshua and most likely never met Miriam, led an attack against early Essene Christianity, then founded a watered-down form of Christianity best termed "Paulianity". Paul threw out many of Yahshua and Miriam’s central teachings including vegetarianism, the feminine aspect of God, women's rights and the prohibition against slavery.

We believe that Paulianity evolved into the Roman Catholic Church and gave birth to all of mainstream Christianity. Thus, mainstream Christianity today, which uses a Pauline New Testament that includes more words of Paul than words of Yahshua, is as much based on the teachings of Paul as of Yahshua. We believe that the teachings of Paul are very different than the teachings of Yahshua and Miriam, and thus Paulianity is a deficient form of Christianity.

Founded by this guy.

Dig around on the site, if you like. It's kinda weird.

At least they have a really legit looking website.

[NightOwl]

At least they have a really legit looking website.

Lol. I really like the chart :

TOPICS OF COMPARISON      ESSENES        PAUL  
Women permitted to speak in church   YES   NO
Women required to wear head covering as as sign of submission to their husbands   NO   YES
Women required to submit to the authority of their husbands as if their husbands were Jesus Christ    NO   YES
Women were created for men Men were not created for women    NO    YES
Women and men have equal rights    YES   NO
God is both Father and Mother    YES    NO
God is only Father, not Mother    NO    YES
Okay to eat meat    NO    YES
Okay to eat meat that has been sacrificed to demonic idols    NO    YES
Slavery is permitted    NO    YES
Christians can even own other Christians as slaves    NO    YES
Salvation is dependent on following the saving teachings of Jesus    YES   NO
Salvation is dependent on belief in the sacrificial death of Jesus on the Cross    NO    YES
Belief in reincarnation in the context of a cosmic school system    YES   NO
Based on this life only, you will either go to heaven (if you believe in Jesus's sacrificial death) or will burn in hell for eternity    NO    YES
Teachings based on the words of Jesus    YES   NO
Teachings based on the ideas of Paul    NO    YES
Use a New Testament with many more words of Paul than Jesus    NO    YES
Christians slaves must work extra hard if their slave master is a Christian    NO    YES

[JamesRottnek]

What a bunch of stupid, arrogant, and useless hippie crap. So the entire world went into apostasy except for your reconstituted (read: made up) sect, which lives on via internet websites based in Oregon? What are the odds!

And why does Mary Magdalene look like La Toya Jackson?

The entire world IS in apostasy because they are not spiritual. Very few people are spiritual these days. This should be obvious. If you do not see that the world is in apostasy then you are spiritually blind. But people can be saved from any religion if they have a relationship with God, are faithful in their daily prayers, and do good deeds. Unfortunately, most religionists do nothing for their spirituality.

And i have no idea what that picture is.

Oh great spiritual one!  Teach me thy wisdom!

[Wyatt]

Oh boy, another roving fruitloop who has a theory on why his cult and no one else are the 'true Jews.'  Again, kid, give it a rest. And I thought the Yahweh ben Yahweh cult was goofy.

What? I am not a Jew. The whole Judaism thing is b.s.

How charitable of you 

[Ansgar]

The Essenes were a Jewish sect, weren't they? Anyway, when are you going to quit the b.s.?

NO! The Essenes were absolutely not a Jewish sect. The Jews were from the tribe of Judah that went astray while held captive in Babylon. Their priestly scribes invented the False Law of Moses that requires animal sacrifices. The ancient Essenes had a completely different Law from Moses which was very simple, and was re-established by Yashua. The Essenes are absolutely not Jewish in any way whatsoever. Abraham, Moses, and Yashua were not Jews. Judaism was the religion of a tribe that become one of the two kingdoms in the land. Don't be duped.

Do you have any peer-reviewed scholarship to back this up, or do you believe that scholars and historians are corrupt?

All you have to do is to research and think about it. The terms Jew and Judaism were invented by the Jews themselves. Abraham and Moses have never heard of the nonsense. They were not Jews.

amartin, I might be wrong but I don't remember that Jesus/Yashua ever referred to himself as an essene. And by the way, the essenes must have come up with the name 'essenes' at some point. If the essenes were allowed to come up with a name for themselves, why not the jews?

[biro]

Yet another creepy anti-Semite with a wack theory no one cares about.

I think I'd get more benefit out of poking myself in the eye.

[Asteriktos]

Yet another creepy anti-Semite with a wack theory no one cares about.

I think I'd get more benefit out of poking myself in the eye.

I never move when I'm rubbing my eyes. I'm always afraid I'll hit my elbow on something, thereby jamming my finger into my eye. True story. 

[jah777]

I formally renounce the false formality and foolish hypocrisy of anonymous public renunciations

[Schultz]

I am an Essene. Its not a separate religion. Essenes are people who are set apart from the apostasy of the rest of the world and the heretical sects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

Do you live a communal life?  One of the most striking examples of Essene piety, indeed the thing that made them "Essenes", was their strict communal life.  I would love to hear about your experiences in communal living.

The Essenes and early followers of Yashua believed in communalism. I have lived in communes. But they are generally not spiritual enough.

I would really like to read more about your experiences living a communal life.  What made them not spiritual enough for you?  Were you the only one dissatisfied with the experience?

[amartin]

I am an Essene. Its not a separate religion. Essenes are people who are set apart from the apostasy of the rest of the world and the heretical sects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

Do you live a communal life?  One of the most striking examples of Essene piety, indeed the thing that made them "Essenes", was their strict communal life.  I would love to hear about your experiences in communal living.

The Essenes and early followers of Yashua believed in communalism. I have lived in communes. But they are generally not spiritual enough.

I would really like to read more about your experiences living a communal life.  What made them not spiritual enough for you?  Were you the only one dissatisfied with the experience?

I was literally the only one there who prayed and meditated daily. When i went off in the early mornings to the woods then they would come get me because it wasn't "community oriented" enough. They were supposedly Christian communities.

Other than Orthodox Christians, the rest of the so-called Christian world does not do anything for their spirituality. It is really pathetic.

[Schultz]

I am an Essene. Its not a separate religion. Essenes are people who are set apart from the apostasy of the rest of the world and the heretical sects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

Do you live a communal life?  One of the most striking examples of Essene piety, indeed the thing that made them "Essenes", was their strict communal life.  I would love to hear about your experiences in communal living.

The Essenes and early followers of Yashua believed in communalism. I have lived in communes. But they are generally not spiritual enough.

I would really like to read more about your experiences living a communal life.  What made them not spiritual enough for you?  Were you the only one dissatisfied with the experience?

I was literally the only one there who prayed and meditated daily. When i went off in the early mornings to the woods then they would come get me because it wasn't "community oriented" enough. They were supposedly Christian communities.

Other than Orthodox Christians, the rest of the so-called Christian world does not do anything for their spirituality. It is really pathetic.

Did they offer a communal alternative to private prayer and meditation in the woods? 

[amartin]

I am an Essene. Its not a separate religion. Essenes are people who are set apart from the apostasy of the rest of the world and the heretical sects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

Do you live a communal life?  One of the most striking examples of Essene piety, indeed the thing that made them "Essenes", was their strict communal life.  I would love to hear about your experiences in communal living.

The Essenes and early followers of Yashua believed in communalism. I have lived in communes. But they are generally not spiritual enough.

I would really like to read more about your experiences living a communal life.  What made them not spiritual enough for you?  Were you the only one dissatisfied with the experience?

I was literally the only one there who prayed and meditated daily. When i went off in the early mornings to the woods then they would come get me because it wasn't "community oriented" enough. They were supposedly Christian communities.

Other than Orthodox Christians, the rest of the so-called Christian world does not do anything for their spirituality. It is really pathetic.

Did they offer a communal alternative to private prayer and meditation in the woods?  

No, like i said, they did absolutely NOTHING for their spirituality on a daily basis. This was true at all the "radically Christian" and "on fire for God" communities that i lived at. They are a complete joke. Hopefully, they will not be burned with an unrelenting flame.

[Maximum Bob]

So these communities you were living at were Essene Communities? Also, I know you did not consider yourself Jewish, Did you consider yourself Hebrew or something else?

[amartin]

So these communities you were living at were Essene Communities? Also, I know you did not consider yourself Jewish, Did you consider yourself Hebrew or something else?

They were Christian communities. And no, I am not a Hebrew.

[Maximum Bob]

Okay, so your making a distinction between Christian and Essene, and between Essene and not only Judiaism but also anything Hebrew, am I understanding that correctly?