Topic: I Formally Renounce Christianity

[Timon]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

[minasoliman]

 I think I called him out on being the same person who posted a while back on being an Eastern Orthodox Christian in the secret society of Leo who venerates Nestorius as a saint.

[Timon]

I think I called him out on being the same person who posted a while back on being an Eastern Orthodox Christian in the secret society of Leo who venerates Nestorius as a saint.

That would do it.  Im sure he'll be back eventually.  Maybe next time he will be an Orthodox Christian whos patron saint is John Calvin.

[Marc1152]

Unbelievable!

Are you becoming a messianic jew?

No certainly not. They have corrupted the scriptures by animal sacrifices, genital mutilation, and genocide. The Jews are a perverse people. They have also denied the messengers.

Then can you tell us where you've gotten your new religion? Who else is part of it? Do they have a website?

Its the religion of Adam, Noah, Enoch, Abraham, Zoroaster, Moses, and Yashua (Isa)

Oldest religion in the world.

No blood, no Trinity, no incarnate gods, etc.

Prostitution ? Oh no wait. That's the oldest profession.. My bad

[Asteriktos]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

They haven't logged in since the 24th... perhaps they are collecting their notes 

[dzheremi]

I bet it's hard to translate his arguments from the ancient Aramaic scrolls of ORIGINAL MONOTHEISM that his Islamimyaslavieshintoist religion is surely based on. Plus he has to wash his hands a lot to make sure that all his daily interactions with heretics outside of his mom's basement don't contaminate him with corrupting heathen frequencies or whatever. Give him some time.

[amartin]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

[Agabus]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

This troll has just made the transition from funny to sad. 

[Timon]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

then what?

[Timon]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

i mean, we're all curious. you renounced Christianity, but didnt really clarify as to why.  i would just like a little more of an explanation is all.

[minasoliman]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

i mean, we're all curious. you renounced Christianity, but didnt really clarify as to why.  i would just like a little more of an explanation is all.

He realized that Nestorius wasn't Chalcedonian? Or as some Western theologians put it, he realized Nestorius wasn't Nestorian? 

[Nikolaostheservant]

Greetings. This is my post announcing that I formally renounce Christianity. If I am wrong on the Day of Judgement then may I be condemned for my insolence. I now follow only the eternal religion taught by the historical man Yashua. I no longer believe that the Christians are his followers. Saul of Tarsus initiated the Great Apostasy.

Sorry but its too late, you can not renounce Christianity!

Once you learn about it, its too late, you cant just leave.

When you die and face God you will have to answer to his judgement as if you are a christian.

You no longer can say...oh i did not know. You already know and will be judged accordingly, as any beliving Christian will.

Just an FYI

[NicholasMyra]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

Amartin,

What other people of the 21st century are in your religion? I mean besides Yeshua, Mohommad, Arjuna, Moses, AKhenaten, Zoroaster, etc.

People who were born within 100 years of today.

[minasoliman]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

i mean, we're all curious. you renounced Christianity, but didnt really clarify as to why.  i would just like a little more of an explanation is all.

He realized that Nestorius wasn't Chalcedonian? Or as some Western theologians put it, he realized Nestorius wasn't Nestorian? 

I come back realizing that this might be misunderstood.  Two different thoughts, nothing to do with each other...either way, just showing amartin is as confused a man as ishak.

[Asteriktos]

amartin, you Baha'i bro?

[NicholasMyra]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

i mean, we're all curious. you renounced Christianity, but didnt really clarify as to why.  i would just like a little more of an explanation is all.

He realized that Nestorius wasn't Chalcedonian? Or as some Western theologians put it, he realized Nestorius wasn't Nestorian?  

[dzheremi]

amartin, you Baha'i bro?

Ah...I think you are on to something with this. Where I used to live in Oregon there were many, many Baha'is (they are identifiable by their distinctive dress), and they preached similarly to amartin, pretending to know Christianity better than Christ yet holding to all kinds of bizarre heresies borne of their universalist outlook. Absolutely the worst of the many kooky sects and belief systems in the area...like the bastard child of Unitarian Universalism and Islam in stupid headgear. (Not to keep harping on that, but as all but one of these crazies that I ever saw or interacted with were quite transparently gullible middle class trust fund hippie white folks, living in the Pacific Northwest which is decidedly not 19th century Persia, it was some amazingly advanced LARP-ing. Hyperdox Herman ain't got nothing on these folks.)

[Andrew Crook]

if this person is posting honestly, then all the joking is just pushing him further and further away. perhaps the notion that someone is apostasizing from the Church should be taken seriously.

I don't think he was ever in the Church. That said, as the OP listens to none by his own mind, nothing anyone says otherwise will accomplish anything. He and those like him need prayer.

On the internet, it's difficult to say who went to church or got chrismated into Orthodoxy.  :-)  There's no way of knowing for certain..

[Andrew Crook]

amartin, you Baha'i bro?

Ah...I think you are on to something with this. Where I used to live in Oregon there were many, many Baha'is (they are identifiable by their distinctive dress), and they preached similarly to amartin, pretending to know Christianity better than Christ yet holding to all kinds of bizarre heresies borne of their universalist outlook. Absolutely the worst of the many kooky sects and belief systems in the area...like the bastard child of Unitarian Universalism and Islam in stupid headgear. (Not to keep harping on that, but as all but one of these crazies that I ever saw or interacted with were quite transparently gullible middle class trust fund hippie white folks, living in the Pacific Northwest which is decidedly not 19th century Persia, it was some amazingly advanced LARP-ing. Hyperdox Herman ain't got nothing on these folks.)

Strange, all of the Baha'i's in my city dress like regular people.  I wouldn't be able to tell them from anyone else, unless they specifically said what their religion was.    But yeah I agree the "Oneness of religion, mankind, etc." can seem hippie-ish... including the fact that they aren't supposed to get into politics or "contention and conflict".  At least some of the hippies would take a stand on certain key issues...

[Asteriktos]

This may be the funniest thing I've seen all year    I watched the clip and thought "Chalcedonian" every time she said "Christian"... pure awesomeness.

[NicholasMyra]

This may be the funniest thing I've seen all year    I watched the clip and thought "Chalcedonian" every time she said "Christian"... pure awesomeness.

They're Dioscorus-Sided!

[minasoliman]

Oh God she's scary.  Talk about dark-sided.

[dzheremi]

Strange, all of the Baha'i's in my city dress like regular people.  I wouldn't be able to tell them from anyone else, unless they specifically said what their religion was.    But yeah I agree the "Oneness of religion, mankind, etc." can seem hippie-ish... including the fact that they aren't supposed to get into politics or "contention and conflict".  At least some of the hippies would take a stand on certain key issues...

Haha. Yeah, well...Eugene, Oregon is a bit of a strange place. The Baha'i I had the displeasure of interacting with were generally wrapped in small turbans and robes (like these guys). You would be forgiven for mistaking them for Sikhs if it weren't for the fact that they kept their beards and moustaches trimmed. Anyway, I didn't mean to imply that they were all like that (I'm sure there were plenty more who were just regular people), only the LARPers, who after all are kind of supposed to be more immediately identifiable than the norm. What's the point of being a Paladin/Baha'i/ultra-super-mega Orthodox/Renaissance Fair knight or whatever if don't get to dress the part?

[amartin]

amartin, you Baha'i bro?

close...

[Aindriú]

amartin, you Baha'i bro?

close...

At least the game is still going!

[NicholasMyra]

amartin, you Baha'i bro?

close...

Manichean? Sufi?

[Wyatt]

i have been waiting for amartin to respond again.  i want to know more about his new religion!

Hallelujah! You can start by not eating human flesh or drinking blood. That is forbidden...

At least you are admitting here that you believe in the real presence in the Eucharist.

[Maximum Bob]

amartin, you Baha'i bro?

close...

At least the game is still going!

So this really is getting to be like a game of Twenty Questions then, isn't it? So do we need to establish some rules for questions? Like does an actual guess count as a question, or are the questions that count only the ones leading up to the guess? If we don't get it in twenty questions do you tell us the answer? And does anyone have a count on how many questions have actually been asked anyway?

[Marc1152]

This may be the funniest thing I've seen all year    I watched the clip and thought "Chalcedonian" every time she said "Christian"... pure awesomeness.

I watched the clip

Wow..Not seen that before... Really really beautiful.

[Marc1152]

amartin, you Baha'i bro?

close...

At least the game is still going!

So this really is getting to be like a game of Twenty Questions then, isn't it? So do we need to establish some rules for questions? Like does an actual guess count as a question, or are the questions that count only the ones leading up to the guess? If we don't get it in twenty questions do you tell us the answer? And does anyone have a count on how many questions have actually been asked anyway?

Methodist?

[amartin]

I am an Essene. Its not a separate religion. Essenes are people who are set apart from the apostasy of the rest of the world and the heretical sects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

[Aindriú]

I am an Essene. Its not a separate religion. Essenes are people who are set apart from the apostasy of the rest of the world and the heretical sects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

That's close to Baha'i?

[Agabus]

I am an Essene.

These ones?

Or, more likely, these ones?

[biro]

The Essenes were a Jewish sect, weren't they? Anyway, when are you going to quit the b.s.?

[Agabus]

http://www.essene.org/Essene_Doctrine.htm#D11

This link seems to correlate somewhat with what our friend has been pushing.

We believe that the false apostle Paul, who certainly never met Yahshua and most likely never met Miriam, led an attack against early Essene Christianity, then founded a watered-down form of Christianity best termed "Paulianity". Paul threw out many of Yahshua and Miriam’s central teachings including vegetarianism, the feminine aspect of God, women's rights and the prohibition against slavery.

We believe that Paulianity evolved into the Roman Catholic Church and gave birth to all of mainstream Christianity. Thus, mainstream Christianity today, which uses a Pauline New Testament that includes more words of Paul than words of Yahshua, is as much based on the teachings of Paul as of Yahshua. We believe that the teachings of Paul are very different than the teachings of Yahshua and Miriam, and thus Paulianity is a deficient form of Christianity.

Founded by this guy.

Dig around on the site, if you like. It's kinda weird.

[Schultz]

I am an Essene. Its not a separate religion. Essenes are people who are set apart from the apostasy of the rest of the world and the heretical sects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

Do you live a communal life?  One of the most striking examples of Essene piety, indeed the thing that made them "Essenes", was their strict communal life.  I would love to hear about your experiences in communal living.

[NicholasMyra]

Or, more likely, these ones?

Today is the Sunday of the Myrrhbearing women and what is this

Notice the double helix descending upon the holy spirit descending upon black mary magdalene.

[NicholasMyra]

We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

Which branch of Essenes do you follow? Can you give me their website?

[amartin]

I am an Essene. Its not a separate religion. Essenes are people who are set apart from the apostasy of the rest of the world and the heretical sects of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc. We follow the simple religion revealed to the patriarchs.

Do you live a communal life?  One of the most striking examples of Essene piety, indeed the thing that made them "Essenes", was their strict communal life.  I would love to hear about your experiences in communal living.

The Essenes and early followers of Yashua believed in communalism. I have lived in communes. But they are generally not spiritual enough.

[dzheremi]

What a bunch of stupid, arrogant, and useless hippie crap. So the entire world went into apostasy except for your reconstituted (read: made up) sect, which lives on via internet websites based in Oregon? What are the odds!

And why does Mary Magdalene look like La Toya Jackson?

[NightOwl]

Or, more likely, these ones?

Today is the Sunday of the Myrrhbearing women and what is this

Notice the double helix descending upon the holy spirit descending upon black mary magdalene.

She also seems to be Chipmunkbearing...

[amartin]

The Essenes were a Jewish sect, weren't they? Anyway, when are you going to quit the b.s.?

NO! The Essenes were absolutely not a Jewish sect. The Jews were from the tribe of Judah that went astray while held captive in Babylon. Their priestly scribes invented the False Law of Moses that requires animal sacrifices. The ancient Essenes had a completely different Law from Moses which was very simple, and was re-established by Yashua. The Essenes are absolutely not Jewish in any way whatsoever. Abraham, Moses, and Yashua were not Jews. Judaism was the religion of a tribe that become one of the two kingdoms in the land. Don't be duped.

[biro]

What a bunch of stupid, arrogant, and useless hippie crap. So the entire world went into apostasy except for your reconstituted (read: made up) sect, which lives on via internet websites based in Oregon? What are the odds!

And why does Mary Magdalene look like La Toya Jackson?

I was going to say, a much younger Oprah...

[NicholasMyra]

The Essenes were a Jewish sect, weren't they? Anyway, when are you going to quit the b.s.?

NO! The Essenes were absolutely not a Jewish sect. The Jews were from the tribe of Judah that went astray while held captive in Babylon. Their priestly scribes invented the False Law of Moses that requires animal sacrifices.

What do you think of the Samaritans?

[NicholasMyra]

The Essenes were a Jewish sect, weren't they? Anyway, when are you going to quit the b.s.?

NO! The Essenes were absolutely not a Jewish sect. The Jews were from the tribe of Judah that went astray while held captive in Babylon. Their priestly scribes invented the False Law of Moses that requires animal sacrifices. The ancient Essenes had a completely different Law from Moses which was very simple, and was re-established by Yashua. The Essenes are absolutely not Jewish in any way whatsoever. Abraham, Moses, and Yashua were not Jews. Judaism was the religion of a tribe that become one of the two kingdoms in the land. Don't be duped.

Do you have any peer-reviewed scholarship to back this up, or do you believe that scholars and historians are corrupt?