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I don't "fist bump". Not because of people being heathens, just cause it is ****.
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I like to greet atheists and Satanists by punching them in the face. This shows them the mercy of God, because they're punched instead of being disintegrated with a ray gun. Of course, to avoid physical contact, it's better to use a baseball bat--but sometimes all you have is the fist that God gave you. |
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O Master Lord our God...who are wondrous in glory; who keeps his covenant and his mercy to them who love him with all their heart; who has given us redemption...through his only-begotten son, Jesus Christ...the life of everyone, the help of those who flee to him, the hope of those who cry to him.
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I don't "fist bump". Not because of people being heathens, just cause it is ****.
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In the Urban Dictionary, only one of the 6 definitions are usable, to wit "Unimaginative, uninteresting, stale, preppy, mainstream, especially in a self-promoting way." Take your pick. Second ChanceAnd yet none capture its meaning. Didn't know the word was considered obscene here. Mea culpa. All the other words which come close are other words suggesting macho come effeminate behavior are also probably obscene if the original is. |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! I especially will not shake hands with the heathen. This is an absolutely outrageous custom. If you do not know them and they are most likely not even spiritual, but are rather like the average citizen of the kingdom of darkness, then why on earth would the servants of God want to shake hands with them? Handshakes transmit energies into the bodies. Also, most of the heathen males masturbate daily with their right hand. But if you do not shake hands with them then they will not accept you into their dark world of "professionalism" (i.e. service of demons). They even have a whole way of judging you by your handshakes, whether it was firm and assertive and trustworthy, or whether it was weak and that you are therefore somehow a lesser person. This is absolutely crazy! Does anyone else believe this?
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I only shake hands with Satanists. Athiests get the side hug, agnostics get a cheek kiss, Methodists get a lip peck, etc. It’s progressive.
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OMG OMG OMG ! Humanity is out of control. I know for a fact now that the Shaytan has descended upon Eastern Orthodox Christianity!
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Christians are suppose to kiss each other on both cheeks. I usually accept a hand shake from most secular people though. I never thought about where their hands have bin though. I would think that they wash there hand frequently enough to not transfer any germs. Most people are germaphobs these days. So i don't see an issue really. Unless off course there outward appearance is degrading at first glance. Than I would avoid contact.
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Christians are suppose to kiss each other on both cheeks. I usually accept a hand shake from most secular people though. I never thought about where their hands have bin though. I would think that they wash there hand frequently enough to not transfer any germs. Most people are germaphobs these days. So i don't see an issue really. Unless off course there outward appearance is degrading at first glance. Than I would avoid contact.
Yeah, often in our church it was one small "kiss" on the right, then on the left, and then on the right again. The kiss didn't always land though, and it was never a smooch. Lemme tell ya, just be around 200+ clergy, 6 years old, on forgiveness Sunday. Face was RAW and the left side twice as raw as the right. Penance and forgiveness all in one package. I believe early on that the "holy kiss" was directly on the lips. Wasn't there some writing or story of Polycarp doing this? |
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Christians are suppose to kiss each other on both cheeks. I usually accept a hand shake from most secular people though. I never thought about where their hands have bin though. I would think that they wash there hand frequently enough to not transfer any germs. Most people are germaphobs these days. So i don't see an issue really. Unless off course there outward appearance is degrading at first glance. Than I would avoid contact.
Yeah, often in our church it was one small "kiss" on the right, then on the left, and then on the right again. The kiss didn't always land though, and it was never a smooch. Lemme tell ya, just be around 200+ clergy, 6 years old, on forgiveness Sunday. Face was RAW and the left side twice as raw as the right. Penance and forgiveness all in one package. I believe early on that the "holy kiss" was directly on the lips. Wasn't there some writing or story of Polycarp doing this? The way I always heard the story is that Judas kissed Jesus on one cheek with the kiss of betrayal. While Christians kiss on both cheeks. This is all from tradition. I don't know if it's a wives tale or if there is anything in written literature to substantiate the truth. |
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Christians are suppose to kiss each other on both cheeks. I usually accept a hand shake from most secular people though. I never thought about where their hands have bin though. I would think that they wash there hand frequently enough to not transfer any germs. Most people are germaphobs these days. So i don't see an issue really. Unless off course there outward appearance is degrading at first glance. Than I would avoid contact.
Yeah, often in our church it was one small "kiss" on the right, then on the left, and then on the right again. The kiss didn't always land though, and it was never a smooch. Lemme tell ya, just be around 200+ clergy, 6 years old, on forgiveness Sunday. Face was RAW and the left side twice as raw as the right. Penance and forgiveness all in one package. I believe early on that the "holy kiss" was directly on the lips. Wasn't there some writing or story of Polycarp doing this? The way I always heard the story is that Judas kissed Jesus on one cheek with the kiss of betrayal. While Christians kiss on both cheeks. This is all from tradition. I don't know if it's a wives tale or if there is anything in written literature to substantiate the truth. ouch. i have a habit of kissing on one cheek... |
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« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2012, 11:48:48 PM » |
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There is no Orthodox Christian custom to kiss people at the kiss of peace in the Liturgy (well, the clergy do, and anciently the people did, but that's a long time since, and the sexes were segregated back then always). Nor shake hands.
If anybody is doing that, they are trying way too hard to be Cool and Really, Like, Hip.
It will fall flat. If it's a Cool American Happening Thing, the fad won't last long.
Christ is risen.
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Ortho_cat
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« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2012, 11:52:11 PM » |
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the kissing is one thing that i had to get used to when first inquiring orthodoxy...
I always used to get nervous when the young ladies my age would kiss me at Church when I first became Orthodox. Did this really happen? Quite different from entering a synagogue where you aren't even allowed to look at the women... of course this happens! it's one of the best part of being Orthodox Usually reserved for forgiveness vespers or after liturgy during fellowship however  |
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JamesR
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« Reply #89 on: April 27, 2012, 12:24:55 AM » |
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the kissing is one thing that i had to get used to when first inquiring orthodoxy...
I always used to get nervous when the young ladies my age would kiss me at Church when I first became Orthodox. Did this really happen? Quite different from entering a synagogue where you aren't even allowed to look at the women... Yeah and quite often too. Not saying I don't enjoy it, but it is rather awkward and strange for me, turning red and all. Orthodoxy is what got me my first kiss, lol. |
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"'Blessed are the peacemakers' For those are peacemakers in themselves who, in conquering and subjecting to reason all the motions of their souls and having their carnal desires tamed, have become in themselves a Kingdom of God."-St. Augustine of Hippo
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