Joseph

[Maria]

The gospel of Matthew makes a pretty clear indication that:

Joseph did not know her till after the birth.
The word "till" translates into "until" in other parts of the scriptures.

Joseph did not know her until after the birth.

But we get told by men 553 years later that "she was forever a virgin and never engaged in physical relation with St. Joseph".

Funniest thing about this argument is that truly it would NOT MATTER.  If you think about it, a woman is pure if she is with her husband.  So Mary & Joseph would be pure in a physical relationship bound in matrimony that GOD promoted.

YIM (unless I'm mistaken, this seems to be the commonly used abbreviation of your name), ...

3)  I asked a question earlier directed to you, but perhaps you didn't see it because I didn't specifically address you.  Now I do: Who is the father of Jesus?         

This is a crucial question. There are some protestants who believe that Joseph is the biological father of Jesus and that Christ became God with His baptism. Now isn't that what Arianism preaches, that there was a time when Jesus was not God?

[Michał Kalina]

AFAIK Arianism preached Jesus was no God at all.

[jmbejdl]

The gospel of Matthew makes a pretty clear indication that:

Joseph did not know her till after the birth.
The word "till" translates into "until" in other parts of the scriptures.

Joseph did not know her until after the birth.

But we get told by men 553 years later that "she was forever a virgin and never engaged in physical relation with St. Joseph".

Funniest thing about this argument is that truly it would NOT MATTER.  If you think about it, a woman is pure if she is with her husband.  So Mary & Joseph would be pure in a physical relationship bound in matrimony that GOD promoted.

YIM (unless I'm mistaken, this seems to be the commonly used abbreviation of your name), ...

3)  I asked a question earlier directed to you, but perhaps you didn't see it because I didn't specifically address you.  Now I do: Who is the father of Jesus?        

This is a crucial question. There are some protestants who believe that Joseph is the biological father of Jesus and that Christ became God with His baptism. Now isn't that what Arianism preaches, that there was a time when Jesus was not God?

Arianism taught that God the Son was created (that there was a time when the Son was not) not that there was a time when Christ was not the Son of God. The latter belief is Adoptionism and often the idea is that He was adopted as God's Son at His baptism rather than being the Word incarnate. In Arianism, Christ was still the Word incarnate it's just that the Word was a lesser, created god, not eternally begotten of the Father.

James

[LBK]

St Joseph the Betrothed, the most humble of saints, who was entrusted the awesome task of protecting the Theotokos and care of the infant Lord, who received at least 2 divine visions related in Scriptures,  transfigured any fleshly drives and infirmities by the grace of the Holy Spirit--nothing to do with age or impaired libido.

Were you the one who said here that only no saint was ever married, or ever made love after their calling?

IIRC it was Maria.

No. It was not I. There are plenty of married saints. Let us not forget that St. Peter was married too.
The family of St. Basil are all canonized saints as his mother and father are saints and so were his brothers and sisters.

My apologies, Maria, it was Zenovia as Michal said, not you. 

[Maria]

St Joseph the Betrothed, the most humble of saints, who was entrusted the awesome task of protecting the Theotokos and care of the infant Lord, who received at least 2 divine visions related in Scriptures,  transfigured any fleshly drives and infirmities by the grace of the Holy Spirit--nothing to do with age or impaired libido.

Were you the one who said here that only no saint was ever married, or ever made love after their calling?

IIRC it was Maria.

No. It was not I. There are plenty of married saints. Let us not forget that St. Peter was married too.
The family of St. Basil are all canonized saints as his mother and father are saints and so were his brothers and sisters.

My apologies, Maria, it was Zenovia as Michal said, not you. 

No problems. Zenovia has not posted here in quite a long time.

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