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New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« on: October 13, 2011, 07:17:12 PM »
The Holy Synod of the the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America named Bishop of Troas Savvas the new Metropolitan Bishop of Pittsburgh. Bishop Savvas received 7 votes, while Archimandrite Sevastianos Skordallos received 4, and Archimandrite Constantine Moralis 2.

http://usa.greekreporter.com/2011/10/13/savvas-of-troas-named-new-metropolitan-bishop-of-pittsburgh/

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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 09:36:56 PM »
The Bishop has, several times on Facebook, said that he has NOT been elected Metropolitan.  Rather, he is one of three candidates that is being forwarded to the Ecumenical Patriarchate's synod at (I believe) the start of next month.
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 09:44:53 PM »
The Holy Synod of the the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America named Bishop of Troas Savvas the new Metropolitan Bishop of Pittsburgh. Bishop Savvas received 7 votes, while Archimandrite Sevastianos Skordallos received 4, and Archimandrite Constantine Moralis 2.

http://usa.greekreporter.com/2011/10/13/savvas-of-troas-named-new-metropolitan-bishop-of-pittsburgh/

This report is not accurate! While Bishop Savas was the top vote getter, all three candidates are submitted to the Synod in Constantinople for election. The final election will not take place until November. What is also curious about this report is that the total votes = 13 while there are currently only 8 voting members on the Eparchial Synod of America.
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2011, 03:56:14 AM »
The Eparchial Synod of the GOA has submitted its nominations to the Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, for the election of the new Metropolitan of Pittsburgh.  Please pray that the Lord guide their election, and that the Spirit fill, complete, guide, care for, and illumine our new Metropolitan.

Please also pray for the candidates: Bishop SAVAS of Troas, Fr. Sebastian Skordalos, and Fr. Constantine (Dean) Moralis.

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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 03:57:24 AM »
Got some big shoes to fill, but I'm sure the selection will be good.
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 04:31:35 AM »
Yes, the Constitutional Charter of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, provides the Holy Eparchial [Provincial] Synod of America, the responsibility, after consultation with the Archdiocesan Council, to elect the Three Person Ballot (Triprosopo), which is fowarded to the Holy and Sacred Synod of Constantinople, which, as stated in the Charter, "according to the existing practice," elects the new metropolitan, from among those on the Three Person Ballot; however, the venerable Ecumenical Patriarchate is not restricted to that list, though the qualifications of a metropolitan specified in the Charter, limit the field of candidates.  Never in the history of the GOAA, has the Patriarchate not elected a regional hierarch, (whether an auxiliary bishop, bishop, or metropolitan--depending on the period of the history), other than one of those on the Three Person Ballot.  Further, although the language is not in the Charter, the practice is to elect the top vote getter, that's why some assume His Grace Bishop Savas is the selection.

In my recollection, I can't recall a ballot of a more qualified list of candidates. There have been occasions when the Eparchial Synod has included not well thought of clergy as the third choice, to help ensure the election of the top choice.

Bishop Savas has an excellent reputation and I've felt bad for him as he has been passed over for a metropolitan see more than once.  Interesting how the Lord works, having been passed over, he's now up for the metropolitan of the metropolis in which I reside.

The Metropolis of Pittsburgh has been blessed with exceptional hierarchical service over the years, Bishop Gerasimos of Abydos, of Blessed Memory, served its predecessor entity, the Sixth Archdiocesan District, 1967-76 (+/-), and Metropolitan Maximos of Pittsburgh were exceptionally spiritual hierarchs, who served the Pittsburgh Metropolis so very well.  Bishop Savas by all reports, will represent a continuation of that quality of hierarchical leadership.
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 04:42:14 PM »
The Holy Synod of the the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America named Bishop of Troas Savvas the new Metropolitan Bishop of Pittsburgh. Bishop Savvas received 7 votes, while Archimandrite Sevastianos Skordallos received 4, and Archimandrite Constantine Moralis 2.

http://usa.greekreporter.com/2011/10/13/savvas-of-troas-named-new-metropolitan-bishop-of-pittsburgh/

This report is not accurate! While Bishop Savas was the top vote getter, all three candidates are submitted to the Synod in Constantinople for election. The final election will not take place until November. What is also curious about this report is that the total votes = 13 while there are currently only 8 voting members on the Eparchial Synod of America.

What very likely happened is they took a second vote, since it's very likely that 7/8 voted for His Grace on the 1st pass, making a second vote necessary to fill out the ballot.  There must be 3 names, regardless of the Synod's overwhelming preference for one over the others.
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 04:47:41 PM »
While everyone is right that the headline offered in the OP is misleading, it's not Michał's fault.  The original reporter to 'break' the story (since he gets leaks from a member of the synod) posted this sensationalistic headline to begin with, which other groups have run with.  Even though he is a graduate of HC/HC, he seemingly prefers false sensationalism to truth in his journalism (not just in his headlines).
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 05:06:56 PM »
While everyone is right that the headline offered in the OP is misleading, it's not Michał's fault.  The original reporter to 'break' the story (since he gets leaks from a member of the synod) posted this sensationalistic headline to begin with, which other groups have run with.  Even though he is a graduate of HC/HC, he seemingly prefers false sensationalism to truth in his journalism (not just in his headlines).

Hmmm....as if we don't know who this reporter is...hmmm...
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 05:13:30 PM »
Never in the history of the GOAA, has the Patriarchate not elected a regional hierarch, (whether an auxiliary bishop, bishop, or metropolitan--depending on the period of the history), other than one of those on the Three Person Ballot. 

While your point about regional hierarchy is true, I would also like to point out though that AFAIK, Archbishop Spyridon was not on the list & he was elected Archbishop.  just a thought. 
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 08:25:58 PM »
While everyone is right that the headline offered in the OP is misleading, it's not Michał's fault. 

I do not think anyone is blaming Michal for the report.
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 09:40:32 AM »
Yes, the Constitutional Charter of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, provides the Holy Eparchial [Provincial] Synod of America, the responsibility, after consultation with the Archdiocesan Council, to elect the Three Person Ballot (Triprosopo), which is fowarded to the Holy and Sacred Synod of Constantinople, which, as stated in the Charter, "according to the existing practice," elects the new metropolitan, from among those on the Three Person Ballot; however, the venerable Ecumenical Patriarchate is not restricted to that list, though the qualifications of a metropolitan specified in the Charter, limit the field of candidates.  Never in the history of the GOAA, has the Patriarchate not elected a regional hierarch, (whether an auxiliary bishop, bishop, or metropolitan--depending on the period of the history), other than one of those on the Three Person Ballot.  Further, although the language is not in the Charter, the practice is to elect the top vote getter, that's why some assume His Grace Bishop Savas is the selection.

In my recollection, I can't recall a ballot of a more qualified list of candidates. There have been occasions when the Eparchial Synod has included not well thought of clergy as the third choice, to help ensure the election of the top choice.

Bishop Savas has an excellent reputation and I've felt bad for him as he has been passed over for a metropolitan see more than once.  Interesting how the Lord works, having been passed over, he's now up for the metropolitan of the metropolis in which I reside.

The Metropolis of Pittsburgh has been blessed with exceptional hierarchical service over the years, Bishop Gerasimos of Abydos, of Blessed Memory, served its predecessor entity, the Sixth Archdiocesan District, 1967-76 (+/-), and Metropolitan Maximos of Pittsburgh were exceptionally spiritual hierarchs, who served the Pittsburgh Metropolis so very well.  Bishop Savas by all reports, will represent a continuation of that quality of hierarchical leadership.

Thanks for explaining this.  I thought from the article that the the EP Synod was just confirming the election.
By the way, what role do the liaty play in the election of a bishop?

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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2011, 02:26:33 PM »
The only role the laity have in the elections of hierarchs in the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America is the consultation with the Archdiocesan Council prior to the voting by the Holy Eparchial Synod of America.  The eligible list of auxiliary bishops and celebate priests is sent to the Archdiocesan Council members which includes priests and laity, who respond with their preferences for nomination of candidates for the vacant see.  It is assumed the the Eparchial Synod considers the nominations of the Archdiocesan Council. As limited as the role of the priests and laity is, it is a progressive opportunity that was added to the 2003 Constitutional Charter.  

Between 1931 and 2003, the charters ('31 & '79)  had no provision for lay input in episcopal elections.  The initial charter of 1923 had a substantial role for laity, requiring nominations by the diocesan assembly (composed of representatives of each parish) of the vacant diocese, to the Holy Synod of Bishops of America, which elected the new bishop, the referral to Constantinople was for confirmation of the election.  The GOAA lost a lot from the essentially autonomous charter which the Ecumenical Patriarchate had issued upon the founding of the eparchy, as the 1931 charter limited the role of the priests and laity of the Archdiocese of America in episcopal elections (and it eliminated the Holy Synod entrusting essentially exclusive ruling authority in the Archbishop of America, who was assisted by auxiliary bishops, although the Clergy-Laity Congress was more aggressive in that era compared with today).  

The current charter granted at least a consultative role to the priests and laity.
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2011, 09:02:15 PM »
Axios! Many years to the new Metropolitan. He has large shoes to fill and he will be up to the task, no doubt!

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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 09:17:46 PM »
Axios! Many years !

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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 09:55:16 PM »

Axios!

He's been a Facebook friend for some time, and from his wise and informative posts, I think he'll be a great Metropolitan!

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(Funny thing was FB would not permit him to change his username from Savas Zembillas, but, they allowed him to "add on" to it.
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 11:21:52 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 03:19:10 AM »
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Re: New Metropolitan of Pittsburgh
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Annual Clergy-Laity Assembly of the Holy Metropolis of Pittsburgh, Thursday, May 3, 2012 thru Saturday, May 5, 2012 at Antiochian Village; the first Metropolis Assembly at which Metropolitan Savas will preside.
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