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« on: March 31, 2012, 09:30:14 AM »

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By a 4-3 vote, the Arkansas Supreme Court Thursday ruled that high school teachers have a constitutional right to have sex with their students as long as the students are 18 and give their consent.

“The fundamental right to privacy implicit in our law protects all private, consensual, noncommercial acts of sexual intimacy between adults,” the court said, quoting from an earlier Arkansas case.

Preventing a teacher from having sex with a willing 18 year old student “infringes on [the teacher's] fundamental right to privacy,” the court ruled.
I could have imagined this coming from, say, California, or Vermont, but Arkansas?
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2012, 10:07:54 AM »

I guess they figure that at 18, a person is an adult and has passed the age of consent. Still creepy because I think there's the issue of appropriate limits between professionals and students. That's the state laws for you, though...
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2012, 11:14:48 AM »

I agree that it is creepy and one would guess that it violates the standards  of the teaching profession. However, I am wondering what everyone thinks. Should we pass laws against actions that are creepy and make us feel uncomfortable?
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2012, 11:27:26 AM »

I agree that it is creepy and one would guess that it violates the standards  of the teaching profession. However, I am wondering what everyone thinks. Should we pass laws against actions that are creepy and make us feel uncomfortable?
Murder is creepy and makes me uncomfortable. I agree with laws against murder.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2012, 11:36:19 AM »

Good. It is a dumb idea. We have set 18 as the arbitrary age, and our laws should reflect that.  Not that such people shouldn't be fired from their job. Still, the guy shouldn't have been made to go to jail...
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2012, 11:53:43 AM »

Good. It is a dumb idea. We have set 18 as the arbitrary age, and our laws should reflect that.  Not that such people shouldn't be fired from their job. Still, the guy shouldn't have been made to go to jail...

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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2012, 12:46:58 PM »

I agree that it is creepy and one would guess that it violates the standards  of the teaching profession. However, I am wondering what everyone thinks. Should we pass laws against actions that are creepy and make us feel uncomfortable?
Murder is creepy and makes me uncomfortable. I agree with laws against murder.

Well, yeah. Because if you've been murdered, that makes it hard to get anything else done.
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 04:09:31 PM »

I think this is a violation of professional ethics.  If they wait until graduation, fine.  Until then it facilitates favoritism as well as coercion, which is the major problem I have.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 11:07:39 PM »

I don't see anything that prevents schools from making this a termination offense in their policy.  My wife's school has policy that has all sorts of conduct mandates for teachers, including the consumption of alcohol at public, non-school related functions, where students or their parents could be present.  Last time I checked, drinking was legal for anybody 21 or older.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2012, 10:50:03 AM »

I don't see anything that prevents schools from making this a termination offense in their policy.  My wife's school has policy that has all sorts of conduct mandates for teachers, including the consumption of alcohol at public, non-school related functions, where students or their parents could be present.  Last time I checked, drinking was legal for anybody 21 or older.

That was my thought. The schools and various other bodies could rule it as incompatible, therefore grounds for termination. All the court ruled was that it was not a crime, which, in reality, it's not. Unethical, perhaps. Criminal, no.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2012, 01:47:23 PM »

I don't see anything that prevents schools from making this a termination offense in their policy.  My wife's school has policy that has all sorts of conduct mandates for teachers, including the consumption of alcohol at public, non-school related functions, where students or their parents could be present.  Last time I checked, drinking was legal for anybody 21 or older.
I think it's ridiculous when schools try to regulate whether or not teachers can drink at public functions. I'm sorry, but we have a life outside of that school.
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