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« on: April 05, 2012, 02:43:55 PM »

Ciao a tutti! I was wondering, seeing as I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact, if anyone has knowledge of the paschal troparion in Sicilian?
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2012, 09:46:22 PM »

Nessunu?  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2012, 10:06:55 PM »

if you know the sicillian dialect, why not translate it? it's not that hard.
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 10:36:32 PM »

I don't speak the language, it's (due to current dayItalian imperialism) not a language one may study from a book.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 09:04:50 AM »

I don't speak the language, it's (due to current dayItalian imperialism) not a language one may study from a book.
Will this help? or at least encourage you?
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2012, 09:25:46 AM »

Thank you very much for the link, Im going to try to translate it right now!
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 06:57:45 AM »

I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 06:37:12 AM »

I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 

But then again I've yet to see logical/rational Patriotism.
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 07:22:41 AM »

I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 

But then again I've yet to see logical/rational Patriotism.

One of my friends likened it to being proud that you were born on Tuesday and hating people born on Wednesday. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 11:46:19 PM »

I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 

But then again I've yet to see logical/rational Patriotism.

Patriotism or nationalism?

I for one am proud to be American and don't particularly care if people find that illogical.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2012, 03:12:10 AM »

I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 

But then again I've yet to see logical/rational Patriotism.

Patriotism or nationalism?

Both.

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I for one am proud to be American and don't particularly care if people find that illogical.

Good for you.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2012, 03:26:12 AM »

I'm proud to be a Pennsylvanian! Or Southwest and southwestcentral PA... well, anything in PA west of Interstate 99 and south of Butler...  what does this make me?  A partial-statist?  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2012, 02:25:57 PM »

I'm proud to be a Pennsylvanian! Or Southwest and southwestcentral PA... well, anything in PA west of Interstate 99 and south of Butler...  what does this make me?  A partial-statist?  Smiley

AND just WHAT is wrong with NePA? Most of us here 'north' of the PA border are former NEPA's whose ancestors escaped the mines!  Wink NePA has the best kolbasa!
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2012, 02:31:47 PM »

I'm proud to be a Pennsylvanian! Or Southwest and southwestcentral PA... well, anything in PA west of Interstate 99 and south of Butler...  what does this make me?  A partial-statist?  Smiley

AND just WHAT is wrong with NePA? Most of us here 'north' of the PA border are former NEPA's whose ancestors escaped the mines!  Wink NePA has the best kolbasa!

You're near(er) to Philadelphia.  That's crime enough.
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2012, 05:29:14 PM »

I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 

But then again I've yet to see logical/rational Patriotism.

Patriotism or nationalism?

Both.

That's a shame.
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2012, 05:33:33 PM »

Christ is risen!
I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 

But then again I've yet to see logical/rational Patriotism.

One of my friends likened it to being proud that you were born on Tuesday and hating people born on Wednesday. 
Does he hate his mother too?
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2012, 06:06:29 PM »

Christ is risen!
I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 

But then again I've yet to see logical/rational Patriotism.

One of my friends likened it to being proud that you were born on Tuesday and hating people born on Wednesday. 
Does he hate his mother too?

People usually know their mothers. Most don't know all of their fellow citizens. I haven't many all Finns and you haven't met all Americans or Arabs. That's the absurdity of Patriotism and Nationalism. People identifying with non-existing community.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2012, 12:11:08 AM »

I'm proud to be a Pennsylvanian! Or Southwest and southwestcentral PA... well, anything in PA west of Interstate 99 and south of Butler...  what does this make me?  A partial-statist?  Smiley

AND just WHAT is wrong with NePA? Most of us here 'north' of the PA border are former NEPA's whose ancestors escaped the mines!  Wink NePA has the best kolbasa!

Hmm, well I don't rightly know Smiley Never been to NE PA, or to the wrong eastern side of the state at all really. I went to a Megadeth concert in Hershey one time, that was cool. I visited Gettysburg a couple times of course. And I went to a Promise Keepers event in Philly when I was a Protestant. Is that enough data, and of the proper quality, to formulate a view of Eastern PA?  Grin

EDIT--Oh, I forgot, I once spent some time in the middle of the night at the Philly bus station on my way to CT. That back alley I spent a half hour staring at was one of the more scenic back alleys I've seen.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2012, 01:42:10 AM »

Christ is risen!
I'm Sicilian and rather patriotic of that fact

I don't speak the language.

Logical, of course. 

But then again I've yet to see logical/rational Patriotism.

One of my friends likened it to being proud that you were born on Tuesday and hating people born on Wednesday. 
Does he hate his mother too?

People usually know their mothers. Most don't know all of their fellow citizens. I haven't many all Finns and you haven't met all Americans or Arabs. That's the absurdity of Patriotism and Nationalism. People identifying with non-existing community.
Going abroad usually brings home how well you know your countrymen, and coming across one among all the foreignors in foreign lands usually identifies the existence of your community.  I don't need to know all Arabs nor Americans any more than I have to know all my second and third cousins: when we have met, it was automatically in evidence that we are family.
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2012, 01:53:30 AM »

Going abroad usually brings home how well you know your countrymen, and coming across one among all the foreignors in foreign lands usually identifies the existence of your community.  

Only in people's heads. Hence the idea of imagined communities.


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I don't need to know all Arabs nor Americans any more than I have to know all my second and third cousins: when we have met, it was automatically in evidence that we are family.

Well with family it's a little different since there's the genetic connection which isn't the case with many countries. And of course family is so small slace community that one can at least assume to have same kind of manners etc. with them. Maybe same could be applied to small villages and other kind of small communities. But not with the countries, ethnicities, nationalities etc.
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2012, 04:33:21 AM »

Going abroad usually brings home how well you know your countrymen, and coming across one among all the foreignors in foreign lands usually identifies the existence of your community.  I don't need to know all Arabs nor Americans any more than I have to know all my second and third cousins: when we have met, it was automatically in evidence that we are family.

I've found the opposite to be the case in my last four years or so of living abroad.  Lesson time.  Will finish my thoughts later...
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2012, 02:55:29 AM »

Going abroad usually brings home how well you know your countrymen, and coming across one among all the foreignors in foreign lands usually identifies the existence of your community.  I don't need to know all Arabs nor Americans any more than I have to know all my second and third cousins: when we have met, it was automatically in evidence that we are family.

I've found the opposite to be the case in my last four years or so of living abroad.  Lesson time.  Will finish my thoughts later...

My encounters have been different.  Gone are the days of significant language barriers.   Nearly every European engaged in travel (except those from Northern England and Scotland) speak English more or less fluently.  In China any European / American foreigner immediately bond.  But I found nationality had little meaning in terms of actual friendships.  I have far more in common with the typical person from a big city from pretty much anywhere in the West than say an American from the South.  Most of the Americans I meet in Ukraine are disgusting, bumbling idiots - I feel no bond based on nationality.  I don't immediately feel like I'm some sort of extended family.  When I visit Poland, I'm certainly not Polish.  From the moment I enter the country, the border guard has always commented on my Polish name and didn't even bother speaking to me in English despite my US passport.  But when I respond in my poor Polish that has a heavy Russian accent (not sure how the happened!) they realize that I'm not really Polish in the same sense as they are.  I toggle between three national identities: US (was born there, raised there), Polish-American (via my grandparents) and Ukrainian (where I live and will be living for the foreseeable future via my wife).  Nationality has very little to do with any of my relationships or self identity.  Other factors such as social class, education, language, world-view have been far more important.  Case in point: I got stuck with two foreigners next to me last time I was on a train.   A plump old American on his way to meet his mail-order bride.  I told him I hoped he had a slow, painful death and burned in hell.   The conversation kind of died after that.  Just didn't feel the connection.  The other foreigner was Dutch.  He had a pleasant conversation for six hours as we had the same interests.  He really wanted to learn some Ukrainian so my wife was happy to teach him some useful travel phrases.  Over the next few days we kept running into him, so each time we helped him buy tickets or other such things.  Feeling a common bond with people really has nothing to do with nationality.  Nationalism is just a failed 19th-century idea.       
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2012, 11:30:05 AM »

Well said Nektarios.
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2012, 11:53:55 AM »

Agreed. VERY well said.
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2012, 05:07:00 PM »

Well said Nektarios.


I don't get it. Didn't you used to self-identify as a "philestist" in your faith tag?
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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2012, 05:29:30 PM »

So there's no paschal troparion in Sicilian?

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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2012, 04:25:58 PM »

No, but I've been really busy,so I'm going to translate it my self… eventually
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