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Offline geovar

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Three days and Three Nights
« on: March 31, 2012, 08:08:56 AM »
A friend recently asked a question on this scripture.
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For even as Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights, so
will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth –
Matthew 12:40.

Jesus was crucified on Good Friday and rose on Easter Sunday, does that mean he
was in the grave for only 2 nights and 1 day? Isn't it supposed to be 3 days and
3 nights just like Jonah?
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I have put my answer in the link below. Responding to it makes me not so sure if i have it correct. I am hoping you can help me on how the Fathers have explained this and how within the Church . It will be a blessing to him and to me  if i could get him responses  from the communities we share communion or Orthodox Christian tradition


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Re: Three days and Three Nights
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Re: Three days and Three Nights
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2012, 11:21:17 AM »
Here you go...

http://answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/jonah.html#three

Ahh yes, inclusive reckoning...   except that it doesn't answer the question. Read Matt. 12:40 again.
"The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny--it is the light that guides your way." - Heraclitus

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Re: Three days and Three Nights
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2012, 11:46:03 AM »
Here you go...

http://answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/jonah.html#three

Ahh yes, inclusive reckoning...   except that it doesn't answer the question. Read Matt. 12:40 again.

There's a lot of commentary on Matt 12:40 at http://bible.cc/matthew/12-40.htm
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Re: Three days and Three Nights
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2012, 01:10:56 PM »
I think clock-watching is not the most important aspect of the Resurrection.
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Re: Three days and Three Nights
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2012, 01:44:30 PM »
"And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour." Mk 15:33

Some say that this gives the "missing" day. Creation was disordered at the crucifixion, and the timing of the day was confused. This is why the rites for Bright Saturday are all out of the normal order, to commemorate this.

So At the 6th hour on Friday, darkness fell, and sunset was the start of the new day (and still is in the Church). At the ninth hour, the son shone again, and presumably set as normal at the 12th hour, the start of the second day. Then Saturday evening, the sun set again, starting the third day, on which Christ rose.

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Re: Three days and Three Nights
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2012, 11:34:24 PM »
forgot to attach the link

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndianOrthodox/message/31931

Thanks for the response / look forward to hear if any of the Holy fathers had written on this

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Re: Three days and Three Nights
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2017, 11:03:35 PM »
forgot to attach the link

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IndianOrthodox/message/31931

Thanks for the response / look forward to hear if any of the Holy fathers had written on this

Augustine writes:
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In regard to the three days in which the Lord Christ was under the power of death, it would take long to explain how they are reckoned to be three whole days, that is, days along with their nights, because of the whole of the first day and of the third day being understood as represented on the part of each; moreover, this has been already stated very often in other discourses. As, therefore, Jonah passed from the ship to the belly of the whale, so Christ passed from the cross to the sepulchre, or into the abyss of death. And as Jonah suffered this for the sake of those who were endangered by the storm, so Christ suffered for the sake of those who are tossed on the waves of this world. And as the command was given at first that the word of God should be preached to the Ninevites by Jonah, but the preaching of Jonah did not come to them until after the whale had vomited him forth, so prophetic teaching was addressed early to the Gentiles, but did not actually come to the Gentiles until after the resurrection of Christ from the grave.

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Scripture again witnesses that the space of those three days themselves was not whole and entire, but the first day is counted as a whole from its last part, and the third day is itself also counted as a whole from its first part; but the intervening day, i.e. the second day, was absolutely a whole with its twenty-four hours, twelve of the day and twelve of the night.

For He was crucified first by the voices of the Jews in the third hour, when it was the sixth day of the week. Then He hung on the cross itself at the sixth hour, and yielded up His spirit at the ninth hour…But from the evening of the burial to the dawn of the resurrection are thirty-six hours which is six squared. And this is referred to that ratio of the single to the double wherein there is the greatest consonance of co-adaptation.

For twelve added to twenty-four suits the ratio of single added to double and makes thirty-six: namely a whole night with a whole day and a whole night, and this not without the mystery which I have noticed above.

For not unfitly do we liken the spirit to the day and the body to the night. For the body of the Lord in His death and resurrection was a figure of our spirit and a type of our body. In this way, then, also that ratio of the single to the double is apparent in the thirty-six hours, when twelve are added to twenty-four.

(Augustine. On the Trinity (Book IV), Chapter 6. Translated by Arthur West Haddan, B.D. )
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Re: Three days and Three Nights
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2017, 11:05:45 PM »
Two explanations I found persuasive are that sometimes in the Bible the phrase three days is actually meant as counting inclusively. Such usages can be found with the story of Esther, for example.

The second explanation is that the three days does not refer to time spent in the physical earthly literal tomb, but is an expression of Jesus' suffering for three days throughout the passion, starting when he was alive and wept in Gethsemane.
The ocean, impassable by men, and the world beyond it are directed by the same ordinances of the Master. ~ I Clement 20