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What about wading in the James River? Or is that only for baptists........
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« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2012, 06:40:05 PM » |
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As a erstwhile Methodist, I suppose you could say I swam the Savannah River, or maybe the Thames (though that might be more for Anglicans).
Now, I'm making my way for what appears to be the Orontes River and Antioch, though circumstances may require I change my affiliation. (Nearest church to my university is Greek, but it's an hour away, not easy for a college student to do. Who knows what the nearest church to whatever place I do my doctoral studies in will be).
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« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2012, 08:12:00 PM » |
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It is well translated, has the psalms included along with the Gregorian notation for singing them
Awesome. I didn't know there are still some Lutherans who have preserved Gregorian tradition. To expand on this more, the book has the Compline in three languages: English, German and Latin. There are some circles here that are trying to get the Lutheran services closer to their original roots, which was a modified Mass. Recordings that I have of "historically informed" music from the 1600's still have the Lutheran Masses sung in a mixture of Latin and German, with the fixed parts of the Mass being in Latin and the hymns being in German. The Creed is sung as it is in the Russian Orthodox parishes that I have visited. The singing is mixed between the Choir and the congregation, as I believe that it should be. Just as Paul lamented for the Jews and wished for them to become one with the Church, so do I lament for the land of my birth. I long for the day that I can sing the German hymns in a German cathedral with a German Bishop officiating, who is in communion with Moscow. |
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« Reply #48 on: April 03, 2012, 05:29:11 AM » |
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I long for the day that I can sing the German hymns in a German cathedral with a German Bishop officiating, who is in communion with Moscow.
Like this one?  Bishop Mark (Arndt) of Berlin and all Germany (ROCOR). |
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« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2012, 06:08:39 AM » |
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I long for the day that I can sing the German hymns in a German cathedral with a German Bishop officiating, who is in communion with Moscow.
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« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2012, 08:25:44 AM » |
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I long for the day that I can sing the German hymns in a German cathedral with a German Bishop officiating, who is in communion with Moscow.
Like this one? Bishop Mark (Arndt) of Berlin and all Germany (ROCOR). Who sings Russian hymns in Church Slavonic and serves Russian rite in Russian churches. |
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« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2012, 02:03:54 PM » |
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Pretty much this. Plus, I don't think +Mark's background was Lutheran. I had heard that he was RC. I long for the day that I can sing the German hymns in a German cathedral with a German Bishop officiating, who is in communion with Moscow.
Like this one? Bishop Mark (Arndt) of Berlin and all Germany (ROCOR). Who sings Russian hymns in Church Slavonic and serves Russian rite in Russian churches. |
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« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2012, 02:05:04 PM » |
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I long for the day that I can sing the German hymns in a German cathedral with a German Bishop officiating, who is in communion with Moscow.
Why Moscow? Why not? The Patriarch of Moscow was Orthodox last time I checked. |
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« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2012, 05:33:43 PM » |
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Pretty much this. Plus, I don't think +Mark's background was Lutheran. I had heard that he was RC.
While I do not have any definite source that he was Lutheran, he was born in Chemintz, Saxony (Saxony used to be Lutheran before communism), and he is a descendant of 16th century Lutheran theologian Johann Arndt, according to this link: http://www.sobor.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=119&Itemid=81&lang=de |
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« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2012, 08:10:06 PM » |
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Pretty much this. Plus, I don't think +Mark's background was Lutheran. I had heard that he was RC.
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« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2012, 09:05:44 AM » |
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Peter J wrote "Oh yes. So were Matthew, Luke, and John. " Actually Peter J, they were Catholic at the time there was no schism between RC and OC. Remember this is an Orthodox Convert Issues Forum, not a Roman Catholic Convert Issues Forum, those exist in the many Roman Catholic blogs and websites.
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« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2012, 01:37:07 PM » |
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I was a Lutheran for just "long enough" (a veiled reference to brevity) along the Way. Though now converting to the Ancient & Orthodox Church, I went through Rome and entirely overextended my stay If memory serves me, the Tiber was noticeably down, so I stood there in mud waiting for the rainy season of the "New Springtime" which never seemed to come! Presently, course corrected (TBTG), I remain transfixed in THE River (Rev. 22:1,2)! I am thankful for the beginning of understanding of Jesus' Sacred Flesh and Precious Blood in Holy Communion that I received in the Lutheran parish we attended... and the great kindness and helpfulness of the Lutheran Pastor there. May God bless you overwhelmingly, I. |
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« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2012, 03:14:34 PM » |
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« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2012, 03:37:16 PM » |
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I recently talked to an ex-Lutheran Pastor at my Church who had converted to Orthodoxy and was writing articles against the Lutheran Church. He told me that his biggest issue was all of the corruption and lack of ecclesiology (sp?) in Protestant Churches and the fact that they kept becoming more and more schismatic.
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« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2012, 09:01:41 PM » |
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I recently talked to an ex-Lutheran Pastor at my Church who had converted to Orthodoxy and was writing articles against the Lutheran Church. He told me that his biggest issue was all of the corruption and lack of ecclesiology (sp?) in Protestant Churches and the fact that they kept becoming more and more schismatic.
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