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« on: March 29, 2012, 05:28:47 PM »

The Lords prayer in the Gregorian Mass (or any other Western Rite): Should it be better sung by the priest alone (execpt the last verse), as it is the tradition since St. Gregory, or together with the congregation?


Nearly nowhere in history the Liturgy accoring to a WR was sung in vernacular. Why this innovation? The Western Patriachate doesn't know this custom.

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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2012, 05:34:20 PM »

The Lords prayer in the Gregorian Mass (or any other Western Rite): Should it be better sung by the priest alone (execpt the last verse), as it is the tradition since St. Gregory, or together with the congregation?


Nearly nowhere in history the Liturgy accoring to a WR was sung in vernacular. Why this innovation? The Western Patriachate doesn't know this custom.
What "Western Patriarchate"?

Sure it was. When Pontiff Damasus switched to the vernacular, Latin.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2012, 07:03:01 PM »

The Lords prayer in the Gregorian Mass (or any other Western Rite): Should it be better sung by the priest alone (execpt the last verse), as it is the tradition since St. Gregory, or together with the congregation?


Nearly nowhere in history the Liturgy accoring to a WR was sung in vernacular. Why this innovation? The Western Patriachate doesn't know this custom.
What "Western Patriarchate"?

Sure it was. When Pontiff Damasus switched to the vernacular, Latin.

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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 03:04:06 AM »

The Lords prayer in the Gregorian Mass (or any other Western Rite): Should it be better sung by the priest alone (execpt the last verse), as it is the tradition since St. Gregory, or together with the congregation?


Nearly nowhere in history the Liturgy accoring to a WR was sung in vernacular. Why this innovation? The Western Patriachate doesn't know this custom.
What "Western Patriarchate"?

Sure it was. When Pontiff Damasus switched to the vernacular, Latin.

One need not be attached to the teaching of the three sacred languages to admit that in nearly every pre-schism (orthodox) church of the West the liurgical language was Latin. Why this innovation?
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 08:10:40 AM »

The Lords prayer in the Gregorian Mass (or any other Western Rite): Should it be better sung by the priest alone (execpt the last verse), as it is the tradition since St. Gregory, or together with the congregation?


Nearly nowhere in history the Liturgy accoring to a WR was sung in vernacular. Why this innovation? The Western Patriachate doesn't know this custom.
What "Western Patriarchate"?

Sure it was. When Pontiff Damasus switched to the vernacular, Latin.

One need not be attached to the teaching of the three sacred languages to admit that in nearly every pre-schism (orthodox) church of the West the liurgical language was Latin. Why this innovation?
Of using Latin?  Most of the population spoke it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2012, 12:56:18 PM »

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The Lords prayer in the Gregorian Mass (or any other Western Rite): Should it be better sung by the priest alone (execpt the last verse), as it is the tradition since St. Gregory, or together with the congregation?
We sing it (Liturgy of St Tikhon) together. Sometimes we have a silent Lord's Prayer (last time was Christmas Eve midnight mass IIRC....I was kind of sleepy.)

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