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« on: March 10, 2012, 06:05:01 AM »

http://www.foodforlife.com/our-products/ezekiel-49
 
Ezekiel 4:9® Organic Sprouted Whole Grain Products

Inspired by the Holy Scripture verse Ezekiel 4:9., "Take also unto thee Wheat, and Barley, and beans, and lentils, and millet, and Spelt, and put them in one vessel, and make bread of it..."

 
They forgot one thing however. The human excrement as fuel for the fire to bake it over.

Now please tell me how this has come out of the mouth of a Holy and merciful God. Else I will conclude the Bible is blasphemy.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 06:11:14 AM »

Else I will conclude the Bible is blasphemy.

Who cares?

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The reason for that is that you dislike the idea of burning excrements? Why? Excrements are fairly accessible in desert area (in contrary to wood) and have quite good heating value. Why not to use them?
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 06:42:12 AM »

Who cares?

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The reason for that is that you dislike the idea of burning excrements? Why? Excrements are fairly accessible in desert area (in contrary to wood) and have quite good heating value. Why not to use them?

That's not how the conversation with Ezekiel and the Lord went.

Why would God positively tell someone to make food over excrement? Should we worry about economy, that we need to use dung for fuel?

In any case I think all of those ingredients can be eaten raw.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 06:46:42 AM »

Excrements are one of the main fuels of humanity. Have you never been to school?
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 07:38:16 AM »

Excrements are one of the main fuels of humanity. Have you never been to school?

Very well. The metaphor appears to be an indication of poverty, yet the story stresses some kind of defilement.

Another thing I find unholy is the command that a rapists shall marry the victim. I found an explanation here stating that this is favorable because the woman would not be accepted by any other man. But is not this non-acceptance itself something that is taught by the law?

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/70885

It's as if the Law is neatly constructed to have rape victims marry their rapists.


As I personally believe in soul mates and that the only purpose of marriage is to unite these halves of a Man, so too I do not find it fit that a victim shall marry the rapist, unless the rapist is indeed her soul mate.
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Excrements are one of the main fuels of humanity. Have you never been to school?

Very well. The metaphor appears to be an indication of poverty, yet the story stresses some kind of defilement.

I'll try one more time: That's not metaphor. People in many areas burn dried excrements (human and animal) for heating and cooking. Deal with it.

And try eating raw grains. Just don't accuse me of your digestion problems later.
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Excrements are one of the main fuels of humanity. Have you never been to school?

Very well. The metaphor appears to be an indication of poverty, yet the story stresses some kind of defilement.

Another thing I find unholy is the command that a rapists shall marry the victim. I found an explanation here stating that this is favorable because the woman would not be accepted by any other man. But is not this non-acceptance itself something that is taught by the law?

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/70885

It's as if the Law is neatly constructed to have rape victims marry their rapists.
The Law was written in a time and place when women would have no future unmarried and few would marry a woman they perceived as "defiled." It's not pretty, but it needs to be taken into account.
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Why? And what on earth does any of this have to do with bread recipes?
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2012, 08:55:57 AM »

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I'll try one more time: That's not metaphor. People in many areas burn dried excrements (human and animal) for heating and cooking. Deal with it.

Then why the resentment from Ezekiel? Seems he never did it before.

As for the digestion, there are some different views on that but why not soak it thorougly?

The Law was written in a time and place when women would have no future unmarried and few would marry a woman they perceived as "defiled." It's not pretty, but it needs to be taken into account.

Why? And what on earth does any of this have to do with bread recipes?

It has to do with what I find unholy in the Bible. Or do you want me to start a new thread for every thing?


It is the Law itself that give men such sentiments. The Israelites had no problem with a more 'liberal' orientation, but we saw how it went with Zimri.
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Or do you want me to start a new thread for every thing?

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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2012, 12:41:35 PM »

http://www.foodforlife.com/our-products/ezekiel-49
 
Ezekiel 4:9® Organic Sprouted Whole Grain Products

Inspired by the Holy Scripture verse Ezekiel 4:9., "Take also unto thee Wheat, and Barley, and beans, and lentils, and millet, and Spelt, and put them in one vessel, and make bread of it..."

 
They forgot one thing however. The human excrement as fuel for the fire to bake it over.

Now please tell me how this has come out of the mouth of a Holy and merciful God. Else I will conclude the Bible is blasphemy.

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2012, 03:18:01 PM »

Good trolls are always hard to come by.

i haven't found anything particularly exceptional about this one...perhaps my trolling standards are higher than yours Wink
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Has anyone else ever seen "Ezekiel Bread" on sale at the local grocery?  We have it down south, not sure where it is made.  I doubt that it is baked over smoldering excrement, but I could be mistaken.  Do I need to take a photo and post it of this product?
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 03:40:09 PM »

Inspired by the Holy Scripture verse Ezekiel 4:9., "Take also unto thee Wheat, and Barley, and beans, and lentils, and millet, and Spelt, and put them in one vessel, and make bread of it..."
That would be an incredibly nutritious bread.
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 05:27:00 PM »

Inspired by the Holy Scripture verse Ezekiel 4:9., "Take also unto thee Wheat, and Barley, and beans, and lentils, and millet, and Spelt, and put them in one vessel, and make bread of it..."
That would be an incredibly nutritious bread.

How quaint, because God called it "defiled bread". Ezekiel 4:13.

It was a punishment bread. For those who know the context of the story, Jerusalem is under siege because Israel was misbehaving AGAIN. So, among other things, they get to eat this bad bread as a punishment. Ezekiel also had to shave off his hair and bread, lie on the ground out in the town square, that sort of thing.

The Ezekiel bread people leave that part out, for some reason.

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2012, 05:34:32 PM »

Ezekiel 4:9 cereal is actually quite good.

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Excrements are one of the main fuels of humanity. Have you never been to school?

Very well. The metaphor appears to be an indication of poverty, yet the story stresses some kind of defilement.

Another thing I find unholy is the command that a rapists shall marry the victim. I found an explanation here stating that this is favorable because the woman would not be accepted by any other man. But is not this non-acceptance itself something that is taught by the law?

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/70885

It's as if the Law is neatly constructed to have rape victims marry their rapists.


As I personally believe in soul mates and that the only purpose of marriage is to unite these halves of a Man, so too I do not find it fit that a victim shall marry the rapist, unless the rapist is indeed her soul mate.



"As I personally believe in soul mates and that the only purpose of marriage is to unite these halves of a Man, so too I do not find it fit that a victim shall marry the rapist, unless the rapist is indeed her soul mate."

How has that been working out lately....50+% divorce rate?
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"As I personally believe in soul mates and that the only purpose of marriage is to unite these halves of a Man, so too I do not find it fit that a victim shall marry the rapist, unless the rapist is indeed her soul mate."

How has that been working out lately....50+% divorce rate?

You think people are marrying their soul mates?

I find it a hard saying also Christ forbids divorce. What if it wasn't your wife you married, but somebody else's soul mate?
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2012, 06:11:10 PM »

whatever they are doing nowadays, solemate, dopplganer, whatever --- its just not working!

Biblical times, the divore rate was no where near what it is now.
Back then people accepted things and were not so concerned with tehrre rights and what is best for them.
They married and that was there wife. No oops shes not my soul mate crap!
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2012, 08:43:19 PM »

No oops shes not my soul mate crap!

My point was rather that people let their perverted mind and fleshly desire to be their guide in choosing a mate, and not God. Like we have atheists getting married. Should they know who their soul mate is, and not who God is?

People were married away by their parents a lot, and are still. Funny how I read a story where a woman was to be married away, and the guy died pretty much on the wedding day! Divine providence if you ask me. Can't just marry anyone.

Not to speak of the rape trap of the Law. I really wonder how many it caught of all marriages.
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No oops shes not my soul mate crap!

My point was rather that people let their perverted mind and fleshly desire to be their guide in choosing a mate, and not God. Like we have atheists getting married. Should they know who their soul mate is, and not who God is?

People were married away by their parents a lot, and are still. Funny how I read a story where a woman was to be married away, and the guy died pretty much on the wedding day! Divine providence if you ask me. Can't just marry anyone.

Not to speak of the rape trap of the Law. I really wonder how many it caught of all marriages.

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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2012, 12:53:53 AM »

Has anyone else ever seen "Ezekiel Bread" on sale at the local grocery?  We have it down south, not sure where it is made.  I doubt that it is baked over smoldering excrement, but I could be mistaken.  Do I need to take a photo and post it of this product?
I've had some of that bread I would say it's pretty good, whatever they cooked it over.
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2012, 01:20:53 AM »

Ezekiel also had to shave off his hair and bread
Apparently God likes his bread without the crust.
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2012, 02:05:26 PM »

Has anyone else ever seen "Ezekiel Bread" on sale at the local grocery?  We have it down south, not sure where it is made.  I doubt that it is baked over smoldering excrement, but I could be mistaken.  Do I need to take a photo and post it of this product?
I've had some of that bread I would say it's pretty good, whatever they cooked it over.
I have good friends who eat it almost exclusively, and it's quite filling and doesn't taste like s*** at all.

The only place I've seen it for sale is at Drug Emporium in Lafayette. I assume it's more readily available in granola-nuttier areas.
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"Soul mate" is not a Christian concept.
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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2012, 03:11:22 PM »

"Soul mate" is not a Christian concept.

Depends on how you read it. God made Man in his image, this Man is male and female. Should the male go and take the female of another Man than the one he is of? Likeweise God made Eve out of a rib of Adam and closed it up with flesh. Should Adam go and take somebody else's rib? Who is not the bone of his bone, and flesh of his flesh? Or as I read it, who is not a part of his soul, the soul which is both male and female according to the first account.
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"Soul mate" is not a Christian concept.

Depends on how you read it. God made Man in his image, this Man is male and female. Should the male go and take the female of another Man than the one he is of? Likeweise God made Eve out of a rib of Adam and closed it up with flesh. Should Adam go and take somebody else's rib? Who is not the bone of his bone, and flesh of his flesh? Or as I read it, who is not a part of his soul, the soul which is both male and female according to the first account.
Ummmmm, I don't seem to remember that playing out in my courtship of my wife. Perhaps we are doomed? Maybe I should get a rib removed and have it fashioned into a woman?
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Ummmmm, I don't seem to remember that playing out in my courtship of my wife. Perhaps we are doomed? Maybe I should get a rib removed and have it fashioned into a woman?

Just an expression that part of your being is another person. An individual is not a complete human being. And not any other is suitable for completeness, or whoever you find attractive to the senses. That would be quite nutters.
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« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2012, 03:28:56 PM »

Has anyone else ever seen "Ezekiel Bread" on sale at the local grocery?  We have it down south, not sure where it is made.  I doubt that it is baked over smoldering excrement, but I could be mistaken.  Do I need to take a photo and post it of this product?
I've had some of that bread I would say it's pretty good, whatever they cooked it over.
I have good friends who eat it almost exclusively, and it's quite filling and doesn't taste like s*** at all.

The only place I've seen it for sale is at Drug Emporium in Lafayette. I assume it's more readily available in granola-nuttier areas.
Our local grocer carries it, don't know if that makes us a granola-nuttier area, though. Perhaps it does. Grin
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« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2012, 03:51:13 PM »

Has anyone else ever seen "Ezekiel Bread" on sale at the local grocery?  We have it down south, not sure where it is made.  I doubt that it is baked over smoldering excrement, but I could be mistaken.  Do I need to take a photo and post it of this product?
I've had some of that bread I would say it's pretty good, whatever they cooked it over.
I have good friends who eat it almost exclusively, and it's quite filling and doesn't taste like s*** at all.

The only place I've seen it for sale is at Drug Emporium in Lafayette. I assume it's more readily available in granola-nuttier areas.
You can get them at Kroger here in Dayton. It probably has as much to do with Jesusiness as it does to do with granola-nuttiness.
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Has anyone else ever seen "Ezekiel Bread" on sale at the local grocery?  We have it down south, not sure where it is made.  I doubt that it is baked over smoldering excrement, but I could be mistaken.  Do I need to take a photo and post it of this product?
I've had some of that bread I would say it's pretty good, whatever they cooked it over.
I have good friends who eat it almost exclusively, and it's quite filling and doesn't taste like s*** at all.

The only place I've seen it for sale is at Drug Emporium in Lafayette. I assume it's more readily available in granola-nuttier areas.
You can get them at Kroger here in Dayton. It probably has as much to do with Jesusiness as it does to do with granola-nuttiness.


As a point of information, Ezekiel bread is from California, it is available at most grocery stores here (including the Kroger owned Ralphs chain). It is popular with low carb diet people. My complaint is its high price and extremely short shelf life with loaves being placed and forgotten in the freezer. Adding to the confusion, the expiration date is according to the Julian calendar (or so says the web site quoted above).
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« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2012, 10:57:48 PM »

Has anyone else ever seen "Ezekiel Bread" on sale at the local grocery?  We have it down south, not sure where it is made.  I doubt that it is baked over smoldering excrement, but I could be mistaken.  Do I need to take a photo and post it of this product?
I've had some of that bread I would say it's pretty good, whatever they cooked it over.
I have good friends who eat it almost exclusively, and it's quite filling and doesn't taste like s*** at all.

The only place I've seen it for sale is at Drug Emporium in Lafayette. I assume it's more readily available in granola-nuttier areas.
You can get them at Kroger here in Dayton. It probably has as much to do with Jesusiness as it does to do with granola-nuttiness.


As a point of information, Ezekiel bread is from California, it is available at most grocery stores here (including the Kroger owned Ralphs chain). It is popular with low carb diet people. My complaint is its high price and extremely short shelf life with loaves being placed and forgotten in the freezer. Adding to the confusion, the expiration date is according to the Julian calendar (or so says the web site quoted above).

Opus as usual is correct. Frozen bread = death.
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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2012, 11:02:14 PM »

Frozen bread = death.
I use frozen sliced bread to make toast. Unless you're buying bread from an independent bakery, your bread has probably been frozen multiple times by the time you buy it anyway.

Even Kroger's "artisan breads" that cost $4.49 each were baked and frozen at a factory, then defrosted and toasted in an oven.
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Frozen bread = death.
I use frozen sliced bread to make toast. Unless you're buying bread from an independent bakery, your bread has probably been frozen multiple times by the time you buy it anyway.

Even Kroger's "artisan breads" that cost $4.49 each were baked and frozen at a factory, then defrosted and toasted in an oven.

I don't buy bread.
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Frozen bread = death.
I use frozen sliced bread to make toast. Unless you're buying bread from an independent bakery, your bread has probably been frozen multiple times by the time you buy it anyway.

Even Kroger's "artisan breads" that cost $4.49 each were baked and frozen at a factory, then defrosted and toasted in an oven.

I don't buy bread.

I do, and although I have not cared for any of the Kroger's artisan breads that I have tried, I do appreciate Safeway's (Vons in my location) San Francisco style sourdough bread for $1.69 in its paper wrapped form with a crispy and tangy crust. Almost like the real thing and I could not bake anything close to it myself. I went through almost an half of a pound with my lentils this evening.

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« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2012, 12:36:45 AM »

Frozen bread = death.
I use frozen sliced bread to make toast. Unless you're buying bread from an independent bakery, your bread has probably been frozen multiple times by the time you buy it anyway.

Even Kroger's "artisan breads" that cost $4.49 each were baked and frozen at a factory, then defrosted and toasted in an oven.

I don't buy bread.
But do you buy the stuff to make bread?
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« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2012, 01:14:43 AM »

Frozen bread = death.
I use frozen sliced bread to make toast. Unless you're buying bread from an independent bakery, your bread has probably been frozen multiple times by the time you buy it anyway.

Even Kroger's "artisan breads" that cost $4.49 each were baked and frozen at a factory, then defrosted and toasted in an oven.

I don't buy bread.
But do you buy the stuff to make bread?

No. I never cared for bread and all that. I get plenty of bread outside the house anyway.
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2012, 02:48:16 AM »

I do, and although I have not cared for any of the Kroger's artisan breads that I have tried, I do appreciate Safeway's (Vons in my location) San Francisco style sourdough bread for $1.69 in its paper wrapped form with a crispy and tangy crust.

I'll have to try that. I buy Seattle International Sourdough sometimes. It's nothing like home-baked, or "normal"  grocery store sourdough, but is rather unique. Problem is, it's a little pricey. The safeway stuff you mentioned might be a good substitute.

On a related note, here is not how to fast using sourdough:

http://lunchwithdionysus.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/love-bread-and-cheese/
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« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2012, 09:46:50 AM »

I don't buy bread.
But do you buy the stuff to make bread?

No. I never cared for bread and all that. I get plenty of bread outside the house anyway.

So, do you steal all of your bread or receive it from charitable people you meet?

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« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2012, 10:50:24 AM »

I don't buy bread.
But do you buy the stuff to make bread?

No. I never cared for bread and all that. I get plenty of bread outside the house anyway.

So, do you steal all of your bread or receive it from charitable people you meet?


You do not understand women Sauron. I think it is more like this when he steps outside:


I also noted a certain degree of jealousy in their eyes.

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« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2012, 08:19:52 AM »

I don't buy bread.
But do you buy the stuff to make bread?

No. I never cared for bread and all that. I get plenty of bread outside the house anyway.

So, do you steal all of your bread or receive it from charitable people you meet?


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