And in regard to Samueljones being a proponent of allah, we have to clarify here that on this forum we believe in the Creator of heaven and earth by the name of Yahweh Elohim "For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen." Rom.11:36 This is the One and only..."God, who created all things by Jesus Christ" Eph.3:9
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17. And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." Col.1:15-17
The One Who says of Himself:
Rev.1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death." and also Rev.3:14 "the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God"
Samueljones, the author of this thread, has his view of things which he has shown us in the links he posted. There is no need to take this discussion any further. Unless you want to open a new thread under orthodox premises.