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Greek St. James
« on: October 04, 2004, 09:15:28 PM »
Is the Greek St. James Liturgy "gaining" any popularity in the EO world?  And does anyone know if this Liturgy is celebrated anywhere in America whenever it is allowed to be celebrated?  I am interested in attending one in the NY area.  I would prefer English, but will be interested in anything.
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2004, 09:38:29 PM »

I wish it were more commonly used as well.  As far as a lead goes...its my understanding that the Jerusalem Patriarchate still uses the St. James Liturgy most of the time.  They have a monastery, Holy Cross, in East Setauket.  Being a monastery and all, I imagine odds are good.
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2004, 05:58:40 PM »
Can I find the texts for this Liturgy anywhere? in english or polish, please

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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2004, 06:39:51 PM »
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2004, 06:53:59 PM »
I know the OCA parish in San Anselmo and maybe even mine celebrate it on St. James's feast day - but that's on the West Coast.

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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2004, 07:42:22 PM »
Yeah..
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2004, 07:48:06 PM »
Holy Virgin Protection?
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2004, 08:06:36 PM »
yep, Phil...altho that's something I didn't know, and it's my church (haha)...thanx for the info, Photios.

what feast falls on October 23rd (New Calendar), that we will be using the St. James Liturgy? anyone can chime in :)
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2004, 08:30:30 PM »
Dur...Saint James.

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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2004, 08:31:44 PM »
Catholic Eagle I have one in my own Liturgical Library.  Of the Order that we use in my own Parish. it's Rare. and my only copy.

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The James that we use was published in Saint Mark of Ephesus Monastery in Basking Ridge, NJ. It was a Translation from Slavonic.
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2004, 08:47:20 PM »
Interesting...I have that very same translation in my possession right now (borrowed it from a friend and forum member).  I hope to be able to visit the Cathedral that day and attend the Liturgy.
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2004, 08:57:13 PM »
Quote
 Dur...Saint James.

Well, Photios, you of all people (since you go to my church) know I am a catechumen who is far from an expert on Orthodoxy, so I think my question was reasonable.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2004, 09:37:00 PM »
Nod.
But wasn't Saint James also celebrated the same day by Catholics?

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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2004, 10:15:57 PM »
Probably. I was also never an expert on Catholicism.
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2004, 11:50:43 PM »
Nod.
But wasn't Saint James also celebrated the same day by Catholics?

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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2004, 09:55:05 AM »
New Skete uses St. James Liturgy.
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2004, 06:40:12 PM »
Mor,

I don't know of any in the NY area, but Holy Cross Seminary in Boston is doing the Liturgy as a mini-vigil (just the liturgy) at 9pm on Oct 22.  (That's only a brief - ha - 4 hour drive from you)

Great Vespers will be celebrated earlier (5pm).

During other years, they have done the Liturgy at 6:30am (so one can be out by 8:30... the Liturgy easily takes 2 hours with all the explanations he does).
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2004, 08:22:43 PM »
Here are some pics from the MP Cathedral in NYC, they have had it there:

http://www.russianchurchusa.org/SNCathedral/english/Photos/cd_d.asp?ID=723
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Re:Greek St. James
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2004, 08:27:34 PM »
The calendar of that cathedral is not updated but you may want to call them and ask if they will have it again.
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Re: Greek St. James
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2011, 02:28:24 AM »
Interesting topic. About 25 years ago when I was working as a prison guard in Washington State there was what was announced as the "Catholic Mass" which I attended as a guard. It was in the dining hall of a maximum security cellhouse. Turns out it was a contract "priest" with an "english" name like Ellsworth who was serving the Liturgy of St James and wearing typical Greek style vestments. I later heard at my own parish that this priest, obviously a convert, was a state employee who belonged to no jurisdiction and tried to approach some local parishes.  The liturgy was actually very well done but I was shocked to see all the inmates receiving Eucharist when I knew they were not of any particular religion and the same people I was guarding in their cells. Apparently he was contracted to serve the "catholic" services.
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Re: Greek St. James
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2011, 02:40:59 AM »
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