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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1845 on: March 31, 2014, 11:50:01 AM »
-Insists women wear headcoverings to church "for modesty's sake"

-Views pornography daily
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« Reply #1846 on: March 31, 2014, 12:16:14 PM »
-Insists women wear headcoverings to church "for modesty's sake"

-Views pornography daily

Good, but isn't this a better fit for Cradle Christopher?
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1847 on: March 31, 2014, 12:17:51 PM »
-Insists women wear headcoverings to church "for modesty's sake"

-Views pornography daily

Good, but isn't this a better fit for Cradle Christopher?

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« Reply #1848 on: March 31, 2014, 12:19:50 PM »
-Insists women wear headcoverings to church "for modesty's sake"

-Views pornography daily

Good, but isn't this a better fit for Cradle Christopher?

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One of the defining characteristics of Herman is his zeal for tradition coupled with hypocrisy.
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« Reply #1849 on: March 31, 2014, 12:21:36 PM »
-Insists women wear headcoverings to church "for modesty's sake"

-Views pornography daily

Good, but isn't this a better fit for Cradle Christopher?

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One of the defining characteristics of Herman is his zeal for tradition coupled with hypocrisy.


Ah.  I was under the impression that HH tries to do everything by the book to a fault.
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1850 on: March 31, 2014, 12:24:56 PM »
-Insists women wear headcoverings to church "for modesty's sake"

-Views pornography daily

Good, but isn't this a better fit for Cradle Christopher?

Apostasized Andrew?
One of the defining characteristics of Herman is his zeal for tradition coupled with hypocrisy.


Ah.  I was under the impression that HH tries to do everything by the book to a fault.
That, too, can be true.

Herman is good about calling many things Corban if it suits him.
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1851 on: March 31, 2014, 12:27:35 PM »
There are different kinds of hypocrisy. One kind is where someone practices the opposite of what he preaches; the other kind is where he conveniently tailors his preaching to fit with his practice. The former is just run-of-the-mill sinfulness that we all possess; the latter is true Pharisaism, where you avoid the spirit of the law by hiding behind the letter.

I doubt HH would ever say that pornography was acceptable, so I don't think agabus' post really expressed the essence of hyperdoxy. If he came up with some Jesuitical argument for why pornography was allowed, e.g. there is no canon against it or he doesn't masturbate while viewing it, that would be more like him.

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« Reply #1852 on: March 31, 2014, 12:29:39 PM »
There are different kinds of hypocrisy. One kind is where someone practices the opposite of what he preaches; the other kind is where he conveniently tailors his preaching to fit with his practice. The former is just run-of-the-mill sinfulness that we all possess; the latter is true Pharisaism, where you avoid the spirit of the law by hiding behind the letter.

I doubt HH would ever say that pornography was acceptable, so I don't think agabus' post really expressed the essence of hyperdoxy. If he came up with some Jesuitical argument for why pornography was allowed, e.g. there is no canon against it or he doesn't masturbate while viewing it, that would be more like him.
Or hyperdoxy holds others to a higher standard than one holds himself.
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1853 on: March 31, 2014, 12:31:43 PM »
The second you start disassembling the joke and analysing it...


is when it ceases to be at all funny.



Y'all would analyze a brown paper bag if you could....

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1854 on: March 31, 2014, 12:34:04 PM »
The second you start disassembling the joke and analysing it...


is when it ceases to be at all funny.



Y'all would analyze a brown paper bag if you could....

Sorry, I was trying to analyze why it wasn't funny.
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1855 on: March 31, 2014, 12:35:25 PM »
There are different kinds of hypocrisy. One kind is where someone practices the opposite of what he preaches; the other kind is where he conveniently tailors his preaching to fit with his practice. The former is just run-of-the-mill sinfulness that we all possess; the latter is true Pharisaism, where you avoid the spirit of the law by hiding behind the letter.

I doubt HH would ever say that pornography was acceptable, so I don't think agabus' post really expressed the essence of hyperdoxy. If he came up with some Jesuitical argument for why pornography was allowed, e.g. there is no canon against it or he doesn't masturbate while viewing it, that would be more like him.
Or hyperdoxy holds others to a higher standard than one holds himself.

OK I get that. A feature of hyperdoxy is certainly picking out the mote in your brother's eye.

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1856 on: March 31, 2014, 01:13:48 PM »
-Insists women wear headcoverings to church "for modesty's sake"

-Views pornography daily

Good, but isn't this a better fit for Cradle Christopher?

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1857 on: March 31, 2014, 09:17:35 PM »
There are different kinds of hypocrisy. One kind is where someone practices the opposite of what he preaches; the other kind is where he conveniently tailors his preaching to fit with his practice. The former is just run-of-the-mill sinfulness that we all possess; the latter is true Pharisaism, where you avoid the spirit of the law by hiding behind the letter.

I doubt HH would ever say that pornography was acceptable, so I don't think agabus' post really expressed the essence of hyperdoxy. If he came up with some Jesuitical argument for why pornography was allowed, e.g. there is no canon against it or he doesn't masturbate while viewing it, that would be more like him.

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1858 on: March 31, 2014, 09:47:53 PM »
There are different kinds of hypocrisy. One kind is where someone practices the opposite of what he preaches; the other kind is where he conveniently tailors his preaching to fit with his practice. The former is just run-of-the-mill sinfulness that we all possess; the latter is true Pharisaism, where you avoid the spirit of the law by hiding behind the letter.

I doubt HH would ever say that pornography was acceptable, so I don't think agabus' post really expressed the essence of hyperdoxy. If he came up with some Jesuitical argument for why pornography was allowed, e.g. there is no canon against it or he doesn't masturbate while viewing it, that would be more like him.

Hermanology.  I never thought I'd live to see it. 
Oh, I suspect we could take it to Talmudic levels if we so chose.
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1859 on: April 01, 2014, 08:45:50 AM »
There are different kinds of hypocrisy. One kind is where someone practices the opposite of what he preaches; the other kind is where he conveniently tailors his preaching to fit with his practice. The former is just run-of-the-mill sinfulness that we all possess; the latter is true Pharisaism, where you avoid the spirit of the law by hiding behind the letter.

I doubt HH would ever say that pornography was acceptable, so I don't think agabus' post really expressed the essence of hyperdoxy. If he came up with some Jesuitical argument for why pornography was allowed, e.g. there is no canon against it or he doesn't masturbate while viewing it, that would be more like him.

Hermanology.  I never thought I'd live to see it. 

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« Reply #1860 on: April 05, 2014, 01:41:03 PM »
There are different kinds of hypocrisy. One kind is where someone practices the opposite of what he preaches; the other kind is where he conveniently tailors his preaching to fit with his practice. The former is just run-of-the-mill sinfulness that we all possess; the latter is true Pharisaism, where you avoid the spirit of the law by hiding behind the letter.

I doubt HH would ever say that pornography was acceptable, so I don't think agabus' post really expressed the essence of hyperdoxy. If he came up with some Jesuitical argument for why pornography was allowed, e.g. there is no canon against it or he doesn't masturbate while viewing it, that would be more like him.

Hermanology.  I never thought I'd live to see it. 
Oh, I suspect we could take it to Talmudic levels if we so chose.
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1861 on: April 10, 2014, 11:44:55 PM »
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1862 on: April 11, 2014, 02:54:02 PM »
The second you start disassembling the joke and analysing it...


is when it ceases to be at all funny.



Y'all would analyze a brown paper bag if you could....

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1863 on: April 11, 2014, 02:55:47 PM »
The second you start disassembling the joke and analysing it...


is when it ceases to be at all funny.



Y'all would analyze a brown paper bag if you could....

Recently I observed myself observing myself.

What were your observations?
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1864 on: April 12, 2014, 01:06:12 PM »
"Who is your favorite Greek god?"

Jesus.

I don't understand this "joke", Jesus wasn't born in Greece and He spoke Aramaic.



/facepalm, did I just make myself a hyperdox!?
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« Reply #1865 on: April 12, 2014, 03:32:35 PM »
"Who is your favorite Greek god?"

Jesus.

I don't understand this "joke", Jesus wasn't born in Greece and He spoke Aramaic.



/facepalm, did I just make myself a hyperdox!?

LOL. Yes, unto the ages of ages.

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1866 on: April 12, 2014, 03:33:33 PM »
"Who is your favorite Greek god?"

Jesus.

I don't understand this "joke", Jesus wasn't born in Greece and He spoke Aramaic.



/facepalm, did I just make myself a hyperdox!?

LOL. Yes, unto the ages of ages.
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1867 on: April 12, 2014, 09:43:27 PM »
"Who is your favorite Greek god?"

Jesus.

I don't understand this "joke", Jesus wasn't born in Greece and He spoke Aramaic.



/facepalm, did I just make myself a hyperdox!?

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« Reply #1868 on: April 20, 2014, 10:31:34 PM »
 There is only one God for all nations, both Jews and Greeks. The Jewish prayer "Shema Yisrael" states that God is one. The apostle Paul states that there is neither "Jew nor Greek, free nor slave...". If there was more than one God it would be polytheism, which is not admissible in Christian theology.

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1869 on: April 21, 2014, 06:31:38 PM »
I can't make a meme, but last week I noticed that my husband and I had both changed our toothbrushes (coincidentally) to purple, and my tongue brush is purple too.

So how about a Hyperdox Herman who matches his toothbrush color to the liturgical season?

(Hey maybe that's not such a bad idea, since you're supposed to change out your toothbrush every so often anyway - a good reminder? Except I don't know what the seasons/colors are yet.) ;)
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« Reply #1870 on: April 21, 2014, 10:44:34 PM »
It would be cool actually: red for Pascha, white for Ascension, green for Pentecost and Palm Sunday, black or purple for Lent, blue for Feasts of the Theotokos, gold most of the year. It would be doable if you had 6 sets of toothbrushes.

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« Reply #1871 on: April 22, 2014, 08:24:44 AM »
It would be cool actually: red for Pascha, white for Ascension, green for Pentecost and Palm Sunday, black or purple for Lent, blue for Feasts of the Theotokos, gold most of the year. It would be doable if you had 6 sets of toothbrushes.

Well, actually I wasn't  being serious, lol.

It would work out ideally if there was a change every 2-3 months. Just get a new toothbrush in a new color, and it would remind you to change it.

I suppose if you wanted to just match your toothbrush to the liturgical season, you could just develop colored toothbrush sleeves, and could change those out. ;)

But why stop at that? I'm sure you could decorate all toiletries according to liturgical season - shampoo bottles, color of soap, color of razor, and bath towel too, for that matter. (Since this is a "Hyperdox" thread?)

Perhaps curtains in the home, bed linens ...
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« Reply #1872 on: April 22, 2014, 09:12:45 AM »
The return of Well-Meaning Wilma!  ;)

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1873 on: April 22, 2014, 10:16:19 AM »
It would be cool actually: red for Pascha, white for Ascension, green for Pentecost and Palm Sunday, black or purple for Lent, blue for Feasts of the Theotokos, gold most of the year. It would be doable if you had 6 sets of toothbrushes.

Yeah, but you'd need different schedules for different traditions. For example, afaik, only Russians were Red for Paschal season. And, what do you do say on Palm Sunday?

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« Reply #1874 on: April 22, 2014, 10:42:56 AM »
My girlfriend thinks it's weird that I am learning koine greek, russian and french at the same time. She has some nerve to complain: all she knows is useless latin! And get this, she says she has no interest in learning greek with me. I mean, it's 2 1/2 hours a day, what's the problem? "Oh I'd rather just read the Bible and pray." Whatever. She better get on fire for Orthodoxy soon or I am going to have to kick her to the curb. I just can't be with someone who doesn't take the Orthodox faith seriously.
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« Reply #1875 on: April 22, 2014, 10:59:12 AM »
My girlfriend thinks it's weird that I am learning koine greek, russian and french at the same time. She has some nerve to complain: all she knows is useless latin! And get this, she says she has no interest in learning greek with me. I mean, it's 2 1/2 hours a day, what's the problem? "Oh I'd rather just read the Bible and pray." Whatever. She better get on fire for Orthodoxy soon or I am going to have to kick her to the curb. I just can't be with someone who doesn't take the Orthodox faith seriously.

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« Reply #1876 on: April 22, 2014, 11:21:27 AM »
It would be cool actually: red for Pascha, white for Ascension, green for Pentecost and Palm Sunday, black or purple for Lent, blue for Feasts of the Theotokos, gold most of the year. It would be doable if you had 6 sets of toothbrushes.

Yeah, but you'd need different schedules for different traditions. For example, afaik, only Russians were Red for Paschal season. And, what do you do say on Palm Sunday?
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« Reply #1877 on: April 22, 2014, 12:15:14 PM »
Yeah, but you'd need different schedules for different traditions. For example, afaik, only Russians were Red for Paschal season.

While there is no defined colour scheme in the Syriac tradition as there is among some EO and in the RCC, an argument can be made that our default colour is gold/white and the Paschal colour is red.   
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« Reply #1878 on: April 22, 2014, 01:23:48 PM »
Even the forum background was purple during Lent, no? ;)

Must have been my subconscious reason for choosing a purple toothbrush. I have no idea what my husband's excuse would be.
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« Reply #1879 on: April 22, 2014, 01:27:04 PM »
Must have been my subconscious reason for choosing a purple toothbrush. I have no idea what my husband's excuse would be.

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1880 on: April 22, 2014, 04:59:35 PM »
My girlfriend thinks it's weird that I am learning koine greek, russian and french at the same time. She has some nerve to complain: all she knows is useless latin! And get this, she says she has no interest in learning greek with me. I mean, it's 2 1/2 hours a day, what's the problem? "Oh I'd rather just read the Bible and pray." Whatever. She better get on fire for Orthodoxy soon or I am going to have to kick her to the curb. I just can't be with someone who doesn't take the Orthodox faith seriously.

Lol I want to learn Koine Greek, French, and Chinese. When I was younger I wanted to learn French, German, Japanese, Hebrew, Arabic, Russian, and Scottish Gaelic.  ;)

Even the forum background was purple during Lent, no? ;)

Oh. That's why it was purple! Don't know why I didn't realize that.
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« Reply #1881 on: April 22, 2014, 05:02:07 PM »
It would be cool actually: red for Pascha, white for Ascension, green for Pentecost and Palm Sunday, black or purple for Lent, blue for Feasts of the Theotokos, gold most of the year. It would be doable if you had 6 sets of toothbrushes.

Yeah, but you'd need different schedules for different traditions. For example, afaik, only Russians were Red for Paschal season. And, what do you do say on Palm Sunday?

The patriarch of Alexandria wore red this Pascha.

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« Reply #1882 on: April 22, 2014, 05:10:50 PM »
Am I being really bad and irreverent if the first thing I think when I see that is 'Santa Claus'? :angel: :-X
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1883 on: April 22, 2014, 05:15:26 PM »
My girlfriend thinks it's weird that I am learning koine greek, russian and french at the same time. She has some nerve to complain: all she knows is useless latin! And get this, she says she has no interest in learning greek with me. I mean, it's 2 1/2 hours a day, what's the problem? "Oh I'd rather just read the Bible and pray." Whatever. She better get on fire for Orthodoxy soon or I am going to have to kick her to the curb. I just can't be with someone who doesn't take the Orthodox faith seriously.

LOL. At least I hope you're joking!

That must be why Sophia discouraged me when I mentioned I wanted to learn Classical Greek - she probably thinks I'm digging in too fast. She told me not to try to learn too much at once.

I admit I was a bit anxious when I first got involved with the church, but I think I've settled at least a little. The thing is, I wanted to learn Greek before I ever came to an Orthodox church, just seemed like an excellent time to proceed, since much of the liturgy and hymns are in Greek, not to mention it's what everyone speaks.

She also probably doesn't realize I've been a life-long language student (though somewhat lackadaisical) and it comes relatively easy for me.

But with the Septuagint, why wouldn't anyone want to learn Greek? ;)
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1884 on: April 22, 2014, 05:16:44 PM »
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1885 on: April 22, 2014, 05:17:14 PM »
Am I being really bad and irreverent if the first thing I think when I see that is 'Santa Claus'? :angel: :-X

Yes, you are!

(although when I scrolled back up to look again, I have to agree with you  ::) )
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1886 on: April 22, 2014, 05:39:40 PM »
Yeah, I was indeed joking... my claiming to have a girlfriend should have been the tip off that it was fiction  ;D  But I'm sure you'll get to the Greek eventually!
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1887 on: April 22, 2014, 05:48:38 PM »
Yeah, I was indeed joking... my claiming to have a girlfriend should have been the tip off that it was fiction  ;D  But I'm sure you'll get to the Greek eventually!

Eh, sorry.  ;D  I'm afraid I don't know folks very well yet. :)

I'm working on it. I can read it (meaning I know the alphabet, LOL), though I'm sure my pronunciation would be atrocious and I can't quite keep up with the readers, but I can keep up with the prayers and hymns.

And I know words like "Lord" "God" "sin" "death" "mercy" "man" "earth" "love/love" ... err, mostly the ones I've looked up a thousand times in Strong's lol and I should know them by now. ;)

But yes, I'll get there. :)
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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1888 on: June 04, 2014, 11:57:40 AM »
Blessed Nazarius practiced the ascetic life. His clothes were tattered. He wore his shoes without removing them for six years.

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Re: Hyperdox Herman
« Reply #1889 on: August 02, 2014, 01:28:57 PM »


Alternately:

Transubstantiation = Papist Heresy
μεταουσιος = Orthodox
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