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« on: February 22, 2012, 12:01:20 PM »

Just wanted to say Happy Ash Wednesday to any fellow westerners out there. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 12:03:56 PM »

what is the origin of this observance?
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 12:13:49 PM »

what is the origin of this observance?

See this: http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=262
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 12:16:45 PM »

Just wanted to say Happy Ash Wednesday to any fellow westerners out there. Smiley

As it is a day of penance and repentance, I'm not sure "happy" is the right word  Wink, but the sentiment is understood and, I'm sure, appreciated. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 12:27:33 PM »

Thanks Timon.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 02:20:44 PM »

what is the origin of this observance?

Also, the story of Nineveh. "Repent in sackcloth and ashes..." It worked for them.  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 02:36:33 PM »

Thank you Timon.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 03:35:08 PM »

yes, I realize that "happy" isnt the best word to describe this day, but you know what I mean!
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 03:51:16 PM »

This might be time for the RCs to explain the differences in the day around the world.

The Jesuits I stayed with in Europe in the German Speaking World received the ashes sprinkled atop their head in the shape of the Cross.

I dunno, if there are other differences from the smearing of ash on the forehead.

What is the ash made of?
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 03:54:51 PM »

This might be time for the RCs to explain the differences in the day around the world.

The Jesuits I stayed with in Europe in the German Speaking World received the ashes sprinkled atop their head in the shape of the Cross.

I dunno, if there are other differences from the smearing of ash on the forehead.

What is the ash made of?

See the link posted in reply #2 above.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 03:56:37 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 03:56:51 PM »

This might be time for the RCs to explain the differences in the day around the world.

The Jesuits I stayed with in Europe in the German Speaking World received the ashes sprinkled atop their head in the shape of the Cross.

I dunno, if there are other differences from the smearing of ash on the forehead.

What is the ash made of?

See the link posted in reply #2 above.

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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 03:59:02 PM »

What is the ash made of?

Growing up, I learned it's from the palms from last Palm Sunday. I assume that's still true.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 03:59:45 PM »

What is the ash made of?

Growing up, I learned it's from the palms from last Palm Sunday. I assume that's still true.

It is. 
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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 11:41:24 PM »

Just wanted to say Happy Ash Wednesday to any fellow westerners out there. Smiley

Shouldn't it be "Merry" Ash Wednesday?
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2012, 11:44:14 PM »

would it be appropriate for ANYONE to receive the ashes? 
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2012, 11:51:34 PM »

would it be appropriate for ANYONE to receive the ashes? 

There are certain western traditions I enjoy, and Ash Wednesday is one of them. I attended the local Catholic parish today and received ashes.

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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2012, 11:53:41 PM »

What is the ash made of?

Growing up, I learned it's from the palms from last Palm Sunday. I assume that's still true.

It is. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2012, 11:57:20 PM »

would it be appropriate for ANYONE to receive the ashes? 

There are certain western traditions I enjoy, and Ash Wednesday is one of them. I attended the local Catholic parish today and received ashes.

Remember, O man, that thou art dust and unto dust shalt thou return.

I would have, but I wasn't comfortable when the lay minister had everyone in the church extend their hands and bless the ashes (no priest involved).

I did appreciate the OT reading from Joel, though.

How does Ash Wednesday work in the WRO?
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 12:56:11 AM »

I would have, but I wasn't comfortable when the lay minister had everyone in the church extend their hands and bless the ashes (no priest involved).

What?? That doesn't sound like a Catholic parish to me...Besides, they also serve the Mass on Ash Wednesday...have to have a priest for that...

I did appreciate the OT reading from Joel, though.

It was nice. I'm having trouble remembering now...was it the same one we read tonight at Vespers?
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 12:56:17 AM »

How does Ash Wednesday work in the WRO?
Basically the same except the ashes are leavened.
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 01:18:17 AM »

How does Ash Wednesday work in the WRO?
Basically the same except the ashes are leavened.

Clean Monday was clearly another instance of Orthodoxy conspiratorially defining itself in opposition to the Vatican.

I mean, you guys get all dirty with ash. We get clean.


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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 03:39:49 AM »

I attended the local Catholic parish today and received ashes.

Probably not in the spirit of the thread, but this seems odd to me.  Why would you do this?
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2012, 08:52:59 AM »

I would have, but I wasn't comfortable when the lay minister had everyone in the church extend their hands and bless the ashes (no priest involved).

What?? That doesn't sound like a Catholic parish to me...

I would guess that it wasn't. Maybe William can enlighten us.
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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2012, 12:38:23 PM »

I attended the local Catholic parish today and received ashes.

Probably not in the spirit of the thread, but this seems odd to me.  Why would you do this?

Because there are certain traditions of the West that I hold dear to my heart, and Ash Wednesday is one of those. If there were a local WRO parish, I would've went there instead, but unfortunately that is not the case.
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2012, 09:41:00 PM »

I would have, but I wasn't comfortable when the lay minister had everyone in the church extend their hands and bless the ashes (no priest involved).

What?? That doesn't sound like a Catholic parish to me...

I would guess that it wasn't. Maybe William can enlighten us.

It was a prayer service at a Catholic high school. No priest or Mass.
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« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2012, 11:05:57 PM »

I did appreciate the OT reading from Joel, though.

It was nice. I'm having trouble remembering now...was it the same one we read tonight at Vespers?

You mean this? No, but interesting coincidence. I didn't realize that the Byzantine rite ever liturgically read Joel.

This was the reading from the NO lectionary yesterday: http://www.ewtn.com/vbible/search.asp?abbr=Joel&ch=2&bv1=12&ev1=18

Just curious, Benjamin, do you think you might do the same thing you did with Ash Wednesday with the Stations of the Cross? I've been thinking of going to a traditional Catholic parish in town for the Stations.
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« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2012, 11:19:33 PM »

I did appreciate the OT reading from Joel, though.

It was nice. I'm having trouble remembering now...was it the same one we read tonight at Vespers?

You mean this? No, but interesting coincidence. I didn't realize that the Byzantine rite ever liturgically read Joel.

This was the reading from the NO lectionary yesterday: http://www.ewtn.com/vbible/search.asp?abbr=Joel&ch=2&bv1=12&ev1=18

Just curious, Benjamin, do you think you might do the same thing you did with Ash Wednesday with the Stations of the Cross? I've been thinking of going to a traditional Catholic parish in town for the Stations.

Honestly, I hadn't thought about it! By that time, I'm usually absorbed in our own Lenten services (after all, the 12 Passion Gospels is essentially our own "Stations of the Cross" service).
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