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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2012, 04:51:44 PM »
'it's life, jim, but not as we know it...'
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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2012, 07:52:35 PM »
Whoever translated this is really bad at Latin.

That particular translation's intention was to capture the metre, rhyme and general meaning of the chant rather than to be a verbatim translation.

If you want such a translation, look at the far right column here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dies_irae#Text
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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2012, 03:17:15 AM »
Caught this one on an odd Christmas album years ago. It's sort of like Agne Parthene for Norman sailors.

Salva Nos Stella Maris / Save us, O Star of the Sea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6KTJpMLe1g

In it, the Theotokos is upgraded from "Queen of Heaven" to "Empress of Heaven".

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2012, 06:55:07 PM »

And a barely disguised contempt for the created world.

"When the shadows of this life have gone,
I'll fly away!

Like a bird from prison bars has flown,
I'll fly away..."
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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2012, 07:58:39 PM »
Concerning the title of this thread, we sung a hymn written by Thomas Aquinas today.......we've also sung few from Bach.

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2012, 11:54:31 PM »
And Am I Born to Die?, a Charles Wesley hymn (here sung by Marc Almond for Current 93)

And am I born to die?
To lay this body down!
And must my trembling spirit fly
Into a world unknown?

A land of deepest shade,
Unpierced by human thought;
The dreary regions of the dead,
Where all things are forgot!

Soon as from earth I go,
What will become of me?
Eternal happiness or woe
Must then my portion be!

Waked by the trumpet sound,
I from my grave shall rise;
And see the Judge with glory crowned,
And see the flaming skies!

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2012, 01:36:26 PM »
Concerning the title of this thread, we sung a hymn written by Thomas Aquinas today.

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2012, 05:41:18 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cjd1Inh1T4&list=PL78058D83D55F71B1&index=1&feature=plpp_video
I don't know the lyrics, but the melody is quite similar to one of Orthodox chants (I don't remember now the name of it).
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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2012, 04:56:56 PM »
And Am I Born to Die?, a Charles Wesley hymn (here sung by Marc Almond for Current 93)

Here it is in that Sacred Harp Orthonorm showed us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU_QFvkPJvw&feature=endscreen
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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2012, 03:31:06 AM »
I'm sort of surprised it hasn't been mentioned already, but my favorite (finding the Latin is giving me only sheet music):

Come, O Creator Spirit blest,
And in our souls take up Thy rest;
Come, with Thy grace and heavenly aid,
To fill the hearts which Thou hast made.

Great Comforter, to Thee we cry;
O highest gift of God most high,
O Fount of life, O Fire of love,
And sweet anointing from above!

The sacred sevenfold grace is Thine,
Dread finger of the hand divine;
The promise of the Father Thou,
Who dost the tongue with power endow.

Kindle our senses from above,
And make our hearts o’erflow with love;
With patience firm, and virtue high,
The weakness of our flesh supply.

Far from us drive the foe we dread,
And grant us Thy true peace instead;
So shall we not, with Thee for guide,
Turn from the path of life aside.

O may Thy grace on us bestow
The Father and the Son to know,
And evermore to hold confessed
Thyself of each the Spirit blest.

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2012, 04:32:22 AM »
If all of the World converted to Orthodoxy I wonder what would happen all these hymns. It would be shame if the living tradition of singing hymns was lost due to lack of liturgical context.
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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2012, 12:12:17 PM »
If all of the World converted to Orthodoxy I wonder what would happen all these hymns. It would be shame if the living tradition of singing hymns was lost due to lack of liturgical context.

It seems a lot of the Orthodox in Africa still sing hymns from the Protestant tradition.

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2012, 12:49:03 PM »
If all of the World converted to Orthodoxy I wonder what would happen all these hymns. It would be shame if the living tradition of singing hymns was lost due to lack of liturgical context.

It seems a lot of the Orthodox in Africa still sing hymns from the Protestant tradition.

During services or outside of them?
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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2012, 01:17:40 PM »
Western Orthodoxy still sings a lot of them.

To be nitpicky: Easterners have hymns that we sing too, they just don't rhyme (which I prefer, honestly).

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2012, 02:02:28 PM »
If all of the World converted to Orthodoxy I wonder what would happen all these hymns. It would be shame if the living tradition of singing hymns was lost due to lack of liturgical context.

It seems a lot of the Orthodox in Africa still sing hymns from the Protestant tradition.

During services or outside of them?

I believe I've seen videos of them being sung during communion.

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2012, 02:06:03 PM »
Western Orthodoxy still sings a lot of them.

To be nitpicky: Easterners have hymns that we sing too, they just don't rhyme (which I prefer, honestly).

A lot of Eastern Orthodox hymns were actually translated into meter-and-rhyme English by the Anglican John Mason Neale. I remember being at a Methodist service and flipping through the hymnal- there was at least one hymn by St. John Damascene, translated by Neale.
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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2012, 01:02:39 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68TdgErXkE

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Re: Hymns from the Western Tradition
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