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Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« on: February 14, 2012, 01:20:18 PM »
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PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Looking for a wild-and-crazy time at college? Don't sign up for Justin McDaniel's religious studies class.

The associate professor's course on monastic life and asceticism gives students at the University of Pennsylvania a firsthand experience of what it's like to be a monk.

At various periods during the semester, students must forego technology, coffee, physical human contact and certain foods. They'll also have to wake up at 5 a.m. — without an alarm clock.

That's just a sample of the restrictions McDaniel imposes in an effort to help students become more observant, aware and disciplined. Each constraint represents an actual taboo observed by a monastic religious order.

"I've found in the past that students take this extremely seriously," said McDaniel, who has taught the class twice before. "I've had very few people who try to get away with things, and you can always tell when they are."
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Re: Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 03:39:09 PM »
nice! I would take the class if it was about Orthodox monastisisim.

There is a tv show where they take 3 or 4/5 peole and put them to live as a monk in a cathoic monestary.

I will post a link of i can find it.

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Re: Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 03:51:59 PM »
Here it is, i was able to find it in youtub, so its 10 min each video.

its a BBC film so it should be out there on the internet in its full eposods.

it was a very interesting show, i might watch it again if i have the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKTA1e2boSc

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Re: Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2012, 05:19:56 PM »
The story says that McDaniel is a practicing Buddhist and a practicing Catholic. That is incorrect. He does not practice both.
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Re: Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2012, 06:00:14 PM »
Ever hear of a Thomas Merton.

Cathuddists (I know, not as cool as Jubu, but probably better than Buddlics, and it sounds sorta like Cthulhu) I am sure would say the newage thinker would disagree.

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Re: Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 06:18:43 PM »
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PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Looking for a wild-and-crazy time at college? Don't sign up for Justin McDaniel's religious studies class.

The associate professor's course on monastic life and asceticism gives students at the University of Pennsylvania a firsthand experience of what it's like to be a monk.

At various periods during the semester, students must forego technology, coffee, physical human contact and certain foods. They'll also have to wake up at 5 a.m. — without an alarm clock.

That's just a sample of the restrictions McDaniel imposes in an effort to help students become more observant, aware and disciplined. Each constraint represents an actual taboo observed by a monastic religious order.

"I've found in the past that students take this extremely seriously," said McDaniel, who has taught the class twice before. "I've had very few people who try to get away with things, and you can always tell when they are."

Rather bad journalism to refer to monastic disciplines as "taboos."  The author is clearly misunderstanding the the point of monastic rules.

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Re: Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 10:50:19 PM »
The problem with this class is that it divorces those rules from the context they are meant to be in, including the spiritual context, and it picks and chooses things.  If you really want to learn what it's like to be a monk, pick a monastery or convent, and go live there for a couple of months.
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Re: Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 10:08:49 AM »
The problem with this class is that it divorces those rules from the context they are meant to be in, including the spiritual context, and it picks and chooses things.  If you really want to learn what it's like to be a monk, pick a monastery or convent, and go live there for a couple of months.

From what I gather this is a survey course, not an in depth study of one particular form of monasticism.  It is a good teacher that can take something so abstract and try to make it more.  If some students walk away from the experience seeing that some forms of discipline and structure are fulfilling rather than negative, that'd be great. 

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Re: Penn Class Teaches Students How To Live Like Monks
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2012, 11:47:25 PM »
The problem with this class is that it divorces those rules from the context they are meant to be in, including the spiritual context, and it picks and chooses things.  If you really want to learn what it's like to be a monk, pick a monastery or convent, and go live there for a couple of months.

From what I gather this is a survey course, not an in depth study of one particular form of monasticism.  It is a good teacher that can take something so abstract and try to make it more.  If some students walk away from the experience seeing that some forms of discipline and structure are fulfilling rather than negative, that'd be great. 

Perhaps...I just got a different feel from the article.  I could quite possibly be wrong.
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