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Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« on: February 14, 2012, 10:35:50 AM »

Article taken from the Toronto Star, dated Feb. 13, 2012

Call it a conspiracy, but Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
 

VATICAN CITY—Call it Conspiracy City. Call it Scandal City. Call it Leak City. These days this holy city has been in the news for anything but holy reasons.

“It is a total mess,” said one high-ranking Vatican official who spoke, like all others, on the condition of anonymity.

Link to the rest of the article:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1130643--call-it-a-conspiracy-but-vatican-leaks-show-power-struggle-in-holy-see
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 02:09:22 PM »
Imagine in they'd have had tabloid journalists in the 12th Century!  ;)
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM »
How about TMZ's exclusive with Lucretia Borgia? ;)
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 01:22:32 PM »
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
How about TMZ's exclusive with Lucretia Borgia? ;)
I'd pay to read that :)

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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 02:35:51 PM »
Quote from: BoredMeeting on February 14, 2012, 02:09:22 PM
Imagine in they'd have had tabloid journalists in the 12th Century!  ;)

 ;D   :o
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 06:01:16 PM »
Quote from: primuspilus on February 15, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
How about TMZ's exclusive with Lucretia Borgia? ;)
I'd pay to read that :)

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Are you sure you wouldn't just look at the pictures?
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 11:50:58 AM »
Quote from: BoredMeeting on February 15, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: primuspilus on February 15, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
How about TMZ's exclusive with Lucretia Borgia? ;)
I'd pay to read that :)

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Are you sure you wouldn't just look at the pictures?
No way....folks read scandalous things all the time for the articles........*looks around nervously*

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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 12:22:06 PM »
Quote from: BoredMeeting on February 15, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: primuspilus on February 15, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
How about TMZ's exclusive with Lucretia Borgia? ;)
I'd pay to read that :)

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Are you sure you wouldn't just look at the pictures?

Did she look like the actress on the TV series "The Borgias"?  ;D
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 12:26:35 PM »
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 16, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Quote from: BoredMeeting on February 15, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: primuspilus on February 15, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
How about TMZ's exclusive with Lucretia Borgia? ;)
I'd pay to read that :)

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Are you sure you wouldn't just look at the pictures?

Did she look like the actress on the TV series "The Borgias"?  ;D
I think the real Miss Borgia had longer hair but...... :laugh:

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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 12:43:02 PM »
Quote from: Pravoslavbob on February 14, 2012, 10:35:50 AM

Article taken from the Toronto Star, dated Feb. 13, 2012

Call it a conspiracy, but Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
 

VATICAN CITY—Call it Conspiracy City. Call it Scandal City. Call it Leak City. These days this holy city has been in the news for anything but holy reasons.

“It is a total mess,” said one high-ranking Vatican official who spoke, like all others, on the condition of anonymity.

Link to the rest of the article:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1130643--call-it-a-conspiracy-but-vatican-leaks-show-power-struggle-in-holy-see

Meh; Old news...their troubles began around 1054.  ;)
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 12:46:42 PM »
Quote from: GabrieltheCelt on February 16, 2012, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Pravoslavbob on February 14, 2012, 10:35:50 AM

Article taken from the Toronto Star, dated Feb. 13, 2012

Call it a conspiracy, but Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
 

VATICAN CITY—Call it Conspiracy City. Call it Scandal City. Call it Leak City. These days this holy city has been in the news for anything but holy reasons.

“It is a total mess,” said one high-ranking Vatican official who spoke, like all others, on the condition of anonymity.

Link to the rest of the article:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1130643--call-it-a-conspiracy-but-vatican-leaks-show-power-struggle-in-holy-see

Meh; Old news...their troubles began around 1054.  ;)

long before that my friend...
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 02:23:58 PM »
Quote from: primuspilus on February 15, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
How about TMZ's exclusive with Lucretia Borgia? ;)
I'd pay to read that :)

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Even though gossip is a sin?
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 02:25:27 PM »
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 16, 2012, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: GabrieltheCelt on February 16, 2012, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Pravoslavbob on February 14, 2012, 10:35:50 AM

Article taken from the Toronto Star, dated Feb. 13, 2012

Call it a conspiracy, but Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
 

VATICAN CITY—Call it Conspiracy City. Call it Scandal City. Call it Leak City. These days this holy city has been in the news for anything but holy reasons.

“It is a total mess,” said one high-ranking Vatican official who spoke, like all others, on the condition of anonymity.

Link to the rest of the article:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1130643--call-it-a-conspiracy-but-vatican-leaks-show-power-struggle-in-holy-see

Meh; Old news...their troubles began around 1054.  ;)

long before that my friend...
I'll just say that's a matter of opinion. The East wasn't completely immune.
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2012, 02:46:08 PM »
Quote from: ChristusDominus on February 16, 2012, 02:23:58 PM
Quote from: primuspilus on February 15, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 15, 2012, 07:24:57 AM
How about TMZ's exclusive with Lucretia Borgia? ;)
I'd pay to read that :)

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Even though gossip is a sin?
I'm not spreadin' it  :laugh:

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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2012, 04:21:46 PM »
Quote from: ChristusDominus on February 16, 2012, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 16, 2012, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: GabrieltheCelt on February 16, 2012, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Pravoslavbob on February 14, 2012, 10:35:50 AM

Article taken from the Toronto Star, dated Feb. 13, 2012

Call it a conspiracy, but Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
 

VATICAN CITY—Call it Conspiracy City. Call it Scandal City. Call it Leak City. These days this holy city has been in the news for anything but holy reasons.

“It is a total mess,” said one high-ranking Vatican official who spoke, like all others, on the condition of anonymity.

Link to the rest of the article:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1130643--call-it-a-conspiracy-but-vatican-leaks-show-power-struggle-in-holy-see

Meh; Old news...their troubles began around 1054.  ;)

long before that my friend...
I'll just say that's a matter of opinion. The East wasn't completely immune.

Calm down there, I never said that the east was immune from scandal - we were talking about the recent articles....they were about the preparation for the next 'interregnum' in Rome after all.
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 05:31:34 PM »
These kind of backalley ecclesial politics bore me to death.
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2012, 04:01:07 AM »
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 16, 2012, 04:21:46 PM
Quote from: ChristusDominus on February 16, 2012, 02:25:27 PM
Quote from: podkarpatska on February 16, 2012, 12:46:42 PM
Quote from: GabrieltheCelt on February 16, 2012, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Pravoslavbob on February 14, 2012, 10:35:50 AM

Article taken from the Toronto Star, dated Feb. 13, 2012

Call it a conspiracy, but Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
 

VATICAN CITY—Call it Conspiracy City. Call it Scandal City. Call it Leak City. These days this holy city has been in the news for anything but holy reasons.

“It is a total mess,” said one high-ranking Vatican official who spoke, like all others, on the condition of anonymity.

Link to the rest of the article:

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1130643--call-it-a-conspiracy-but-vatican-leaks-show-power-struggle-in-holy-see

Meh; Old news...their troubles began around 1054.  ;)

long before that my friend...
I'll just say that's a matter of opinion. The East wasn't completely immune.

Calm down there, I never said that the east was immune from scandal - we were talking about the recent articles....they were about the preparation for the next 'interregnum' in Rome after all.
I was completely calm at the time.
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2012, 02:11:06 PM »
It is with no rancor that I say it is reasonable to expect there to be a new RCC Pope within several years. Not 'wishing' anything. Life is life, that's all, and no one stays forever. While I do not expect this Pope to resign, I do sometimes speculate who would be the successor. I have a feeling the next Pope will be either an Asian, African or South American. These are areas of marked growth of the RCC.
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Re: Vatican leaks show power struggle in Holy See
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2012, 10:33:26 PM »
Quote from: biro on February 24, 2012, 02:11:06 PM
It is with no rancor that I say it is reasonable to expect there to be a new RCC Pope within several years. Not 'wishing' anything. Life is life, that's all, and no one stays forever. While I do not expect this Pope to resign, I do sometimes speculate who would be the successor. I have a feeling the next Pope will be either an Asian, African or South American. These are areas of marked growth of the RCC.

This evening Fox News discussed the possibility of an American (Cardinal Dolan, I think they said) becoming the next Pope.
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