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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2012, 01:39:45 AM »

Kanye West owns. Do you really think he believes all that occultic stuff? He's doing it for shock and attention. Sorry you can't handle the heat.

Nicki Minaj is awesome too.

Achronos,

Should I be glad or sad that I have no idea what to make of any of this thread including your post?

Thanks.
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2012, 01:41:42 AM »

Poking fun at the inexplicably famous and undoubtedly talentless > arguing about metaphysics

All the time, every time.
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2012, 01:45:36 AM »

Poking fun at the inexplicably famous and undoubtedly talentless > arguing about metaphysics

All the time, every time.

I see no reason not to dovetail.

Actually just getting Habte to have to write out that insincere and triumphal greeting is fun.

He does type it out believe it or not. He has made the occasional typo.

Strange but true.
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2012, 02:08:14 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!


..and now for some music that doesn't suck

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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2012, 02:11:59 AM »

Get back on topic, please.
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« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2012, 02:19:23 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!


..and now for some music that doesn't suck

stay blessed,
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Irie!  Smiley


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« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2012, 02:31:17 AM »

yeshuaisism, you see that Lady Gaga video yet?
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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2012, 02:37:18 AM »

^ Now look what you've done!  I hope you're happy with yourself!   Wink

Get back on topic, please.
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« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2012, 02:42:03 AM »

Some people are only alive because it's illegal to kill them.


Great point.


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« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2012, 02:43:24 AM »

I'm sure all of the saints depicted there were face-palming in heaven during that "performance".
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« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2012, 03:01:02 AM »

I would like to point out that some things are quite demonic and evil whether they are done for shock value, as a joke, for financial profit, or as an intentional act of satanic worship. We should recognize evil and call it such, rather than winking at it and adopting a laissez faire posture of tolerance simply because those doing the evil "don't really believe in it."



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« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2012, 05:44:03 AM »

Seems an appropriate Babylonian ritual to commemorate the fall of another Babylonian idol.



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You do realize that Gebre Menfes Kidus is not Ethiopian.
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« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2012, 09:02:37 AM »

I'm more shocked that any of you watched the Grammy Awards. I mean, both my father and brother have been involved in the music industry for a total of about 60 years and counting and I asked my father if he was going to watch it and he said "only after I've done everything else I can think to do with my time." I would think that this is just about the level of attention that any of these spectacles merit. Looking for Masonic or Satanic this-or-that in this kind of show is akin to looking for Satanic messages in your Alfa-Bits cereal. In a past decade, you could have been counted on to provide court testimony against Judas Priest... Roll Eyes

I have not watched an awards show in decades. OTH, I read about the Grammy awards afterwards and found out three good things.

- Alison Krauss won Best Bluegrass Album (with her band Union Station) for "Paper Airplane." She is probably the most awarded female singer in the US and continues to amaze with her voice, artistry and modesty--not a prima donna bone in her body.

- Adele, the big winner this year, is a really good singer (I caught couple of her songs on you tube).

- Tony Bennett (with Amy Winehouse) won Best Pop Duo for for "Body and Soul" and won Best Traditional Pop Album for "Duets II". BTW, did I tell y'all that I love the American Songbook.
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« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2012, 09:26:56 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?





This is not a conspiracy, nor is it satanic or masonic. Is it wrong? Yes... Is it irreverent? Yes...

The choice of everything in that performance is very intentional, she wasn't mocking icons, she is mocking the Roman Catholic Church, maybe even religion in general.

There is not a conspiracy within the music industry or anything like that. She simply wants shock value and to stick it to society and what some people consider respectable and reverent.

She stands for immorality and vice, and promotes it in her music. It isn't about her being part of some conspiracy, satanic cult or anything like that. It's simply her being who she is, and desiring to shock people and cause people to talk about her and her music.

I once had someone tell me they believed the music industry was run by the Jews who put patterns, beats, etc... in the music to perform mind control and get people to do drugs and kill themselves. There are some really crazy ideas out there, don't believe them.

Again, please, for the love of God, don't get your ideas from Wikipedia, YouTube or private online websites.

Ditto. What a contest amont all of the Madonna 'wanna-bes'. At least Lady Gaga actually has some talent and recognizes that her 'schtick' is just that - a 'schtick.' An even better contrast between the techno-talent-deprived 'artists' and singers like Adele. You may not like blues influenced jazz singing, but there she was - alone with a microphone and back up singers - no fireworks, no scantily clad Roman gladiators, no snakes etc..... And what happened to the 'old' Katy Perry who didn't need spray painted clothes to hit the top forty? I guess I am getting old...


By the way..the rockers at the very end, led by the old guys, Sir Paul and the Boss were awesome!
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« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2012, 10:20:19 AM »

Seems an appropriate Babylonian ritual to commemorate the fall of another Babylonian idol.



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You do realize that only Ethiopian gives Babylonian a run as the most absurd modifier to the word empire.

You do realize that Gebre Menfes Kidus is not Ethiopian.

I think you are asking the wrong person this question.
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« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2012, 10:36:31 AM »

Seems an appropriate Babylonian ritual to commemorate the fall of another Babylonian idol.



Selam

You do realize that only Ethiopian gives Babylonian a run as the most absurd modifier to the word empire.




Babylon not being a real empire?  I'm sure the Assyrians would disagree with you on this.
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« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2012, 12:06:32 PM »

I would like to point out that some things are quite demonic and evil whether they are done for shock value, as a joke, for financial profit, or as an intentional act of satanic worship. We should recognize evil and call it such, rather than winking at it and adopting a laissez faire posture of tolerance simply because those doing the evil "don't really believe in it."

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« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2012, 12:26:11 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?

Can't some music just suck without there having to be a conspiracy about it?

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LOL, well, yes it can.

Unfortunately this artist is obviously huge and has much influence.   (I don't understand why either LOL)
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« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2012, 12:29:26 PM »

I would like to point out that some things are quite demonic and evil whether they are done for shock value, as a joke, for financial profit, or as an intentional act of satanic worship. We should recognize evil and call it such, rather than winking at it and adopting a laissez faire posture of tolerance simply because those doing the evil "don't really believe in it."



Selam

I agree with this. I was trying to point out that such things, as offensive and bad as they are, are not always a reflection of the artist's personal values. In other words, if you were to ask the star themselves they'd likely say it was for show, as they are not actually involved in masonry, satanism, or what have you. (So there isn't an actual conspiracy anywhere, it's just about what will make money/get the ladies or whatever.) We shouldn't adopt a laissez faire attitude at all. We shouldn't consume such media that is ambivalent towards evil. Ambivalence is not an attitude in keeping with Christianity. However, if we go to the extremes of seeing actual satanist conspiracies in bad popular media made for calculated, capitalistic reasons, we may risk coming off as extremists of the book burning/Beatles records steamrolling variety, which would help justify (in the minds of those so inclined) the world's turning a blind eye to more urgent issues, e.g., persecution of Christians in the Middle East/Asia/Africa. Before you say "that's a stretch" or something similar, I have seen this over and over myself, particularly with the so-called "new atheists" who seem to see Jerry Falwell and his ilk as evidence that Christians are all Bin Ladens in waiting for the appropriate political situation in which to turn the West into Evangelical Taliban country (as though disagreeing with/boycotting certain media or popular social/political stances supported by it is on the level of actually killing people).
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« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2012, 12:31:04 PM »

Kanye West owns. Do you really think he believes all that occultic stuff? He's doing it for shock and attention. Sorry you can't handle the heat.

Nicki Minaj is awesome too.

Hi brother Achronos,

I'd like to pass this video on to you about Kayne West.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccPm3CdP3Uo

I know that many people do not want to believe, understand, or want to find some of the claims against a lot of the music industry as "unfounded".  Christians should consider if our Lord would approve.

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« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2012, 12:32:43 PM »

Pfft. Everyone knows that the pyramids were built by Masons. And space aliens built everything in Ethiopia before the Italians showed up. The guy with the crazy hair on the History Channel told me so.

Of course some claims that people make I would consider heavy disinformation to pass the unfortunate and deviant truth off as crazy.
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« Reply #68 on: February 14, 2012, 12:39:28 PM »

The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

"He who fears has not yet been made perfect in love." ~1 John 4:18b

I know and its unfortunate.  Both about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns/gold AND about Masonry.

The only problem is that most Masonic elements can be proven or at the very least linked.

But anyway, if you ignore the pillars in both this and the Kayne West video I just posted - they are showing blasphemy in front of icons.
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« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2012, 12:44:10 PM »

I would like to point out that some things are quite demonic and evil whether they are done for shock value, as a joke, for financial profit, or as an intentional act of satanic worship. We should recognize evil and call it such, rather than winking at it and adopting a laissez faire posture of tolerance simply because those doing the evil "don't really believe in it."

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What would our Lord think of this?  What would our saints?
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« Reply #71 on: February 14, 2012, 12:59:08 PM »

yeshuaisism, you see that Lady Gaga video yet?

Lots of them UNFORTUNATELY.  

Lots of satanic symbolism in those.  From holding up a rosary "praying" Just let me go, eating the rosary, upside down crosses, goat heads... Even some songs like "Born this way" talk about how "god didn't make mistakes making gay people".

Also, she has a song that says "I'm in love with Judas".... Well here http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/l/lady_gaga/judas.html, this is what many 10 year old girls are singing.  

It's disgusting and my personal belief is influences like this will bring many away from God.
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« Reply #73 on: February 14, 2012, 01:34:23 PM »

The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

"He who fears has not yet been made perfect in love." ~1 John 4:18b

I know and its unfortunate.  Both about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns/gold AND about Masonry.

The only problem is that most Masonic elements can be proven or at the very least linked.

So what, I can link Kevin Bacon to an Emperor Penguin...it only takes 6 or 7 jumps.....

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« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2012, 02:17:53 PM »

The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

"He who fears has not yet been made perfect in love." ~1 John 4:18b

I know and its unfortunate.  Both about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns/gold AND about Masonry.

The only problem is that most Masonic elements can be proven or at the very least linked.

So what, I can link Kevin Bacon to an Emperor Penguin...it only takes 6 or 7 jumps.....

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But could you do it without using Batman Returns?
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« Reply #75 on: February 14, 2012, 02:27:11 PM »

The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

"He who fears has not yet been made perfect in love." ~1 John 4:18b

I know and its unfortunate.  Both about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns/gold AND about Masonry.

The only problem is that most Masonic elements can be proven or at the very least linked.

So what, I can link Kevin Bacon to an Emperor Penguin...it only takes 6 or 7 jumps.....

PP

But could you do it without using Batman Returns?
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« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2012, 03:48:41 PM »

The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

"He who fears has not yet been made perfect in love." ~1 John 4:18b

I know and its unfortunate.  Both about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns/gold AND about Masonry.

The only problem is that most Masonic elements can be proven or at the very least linked.

So what, I can link Kevin Bacon to an Emperor Penguin...it only takes 6 or 7 jumps.....

PP

But could you do it without using Batman Returns?
*sigh* you ruin everything Vam!!!!!! storms off to room

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Wasn't Danny Devito the Penguin?

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« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2012, 03:51:51 PM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

"He who fears has not yet been made perfect in love." ~1 John 4:18b

I know and its unfortunate.  Both about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns/gold AND about Masonry.

The only problem is that most Masonic elements can be proven or at the very least linked.

So what, I can link Kevin Bacon to an Emperor Penguin...it only takes 6 or 7 jumps.....

PP

But could you do it without using Batman Returns?
*sigh* you ruin everything Vam!!!!!! storms off to room

PP

Wasn't Danny Devito the Penguin?



I think that was supposed to be a double snap including a tangent on Kevin Bacon



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« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2012, 04:44:29 PM »

The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

"He who fears has not yet been made perfect in love." ~1 John 4:18b

I know and its unfortunate.  Both about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns/gold AND about Masonry.

The only problem is that most Masonic elements can be proven or at the very least linked.

So what, I can link Kevin Bacon to an Emperor Penguin...it only takes 6 or 7 jumps.....

PP

But could you do it without using Batman Returns?
*sigh* you ruin everything Vam!!!!!! storms off to room

PP

Wasn't Danny Devito the Penguin?



Well, I was aiming more for the rocket-penguins in the movie, which look kinda like Emperor Penguins (aptenodytes forsteri) but apparently were the smaller King Penguins (aptenodytes patagonicus).

So yeah, you can come out of your room now, PP.  My joke didn't quite work.
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« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2012, 04:47:40 PM »

The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

"He who fears has not yet been made perfect in love." ~1 John 4:18b

I know and its unfortunate.  Both about Santa, the Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns/gold AND about Masonry.

The only problem is that most Masonic elements can be proven or at the very least linked.

So what, I can link Kevin Bacon to an Emperor Penguin...it only takes 6 or 7 jumps.....

PP

But could you do it without using Batman Returns?
*sigh* you ruin everything Vam!!!!!! storms off to room

PP

Wasn't Danny Devito the Penguin?



Well, I was aiming more for the rocket-penguins in the movie, which look kinda like Emperor Penguins (aptenodytes forsteri) but apparently were the smaller King Penguins (aptenodytes patagonicus).

So yeah, you can come out of your room now, PP.  My joke didn't quite work.
sniffle if you say so......

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« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2012, 10:17:26 PM »

I don't know if any of you watched the Grammys last Sunday, but this is newsworthy in our circle. Pop star Nicki Minaj dresses up as Red Riding Hood and her date for the festivities was a guy dressed as the Pope.



However, this wasn't the reason why most Christian circles are angry with her. This is why.

The President of the Catholic League wrote this response.

I didn't see the performance when it actually happened (I did see her with the "pope" at the red carpet), but from the looks of it, the whole thing was distasteful to say the least.

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« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2012, 10:18:29 PM »

Well she did copy Lil Kim's style anyway...
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« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2012, 10:30:31 PM »

Well she did copy Lil Kim's style anyway...

Hahaha word  Cheesy. She ain't touching' the Queen Bee.
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« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2012, 10:45:53 PM »

History is nothing other than lies that have been agreed to.
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« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2012, 10:47:22 PM »

History is nothing other than lies that have been agreed to.
History is simply the version of what happened that the victors have written
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« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2012, 10:55:13 PM »

History is nothing other than lies that have been agreed to.
History is simply the version of what happened that the victors have written
History is what the historians say it is.
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« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2012, 10:58:12 PM »

Something that would look nice on a mug.
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« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2012, 11:02:22 PM »

All I can say is what a jack***.
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« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2012, 11:35:01 PM »

It's a shame one can't look to the grammys for examples of moral uprightness anymore.  Wink

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« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2012, 11:38:01 PM »

It's a shame one can't look to the grammys for examples of moral uprightness anymore.  Wink



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