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« on: February 13, 2012, 08:33:36 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2012, 08:48:09 PM »

The conspiracy theorist in me certainly thought the same thing.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2012, 08:50:02 PM »

Also note the masonic pillars.

What makes the pillars particularly masonic?

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It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

That would involve too much intelligence. You could say that they worship stupidity, which is satanic in its own way. If the entertainment industry really were controlled by a vast Satanic cult, it would be much easier to identify Satan's influence in the world. He's more clever than you give him credit for. He works best through lame, banal crap that permeates everyday life. To be a disciple of Satan doesn't require any rituals or incantations, you just need to engage in self-worship and there are endless varieties to choose from.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2012, 08:53:41 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?

This is not a conspiracy, nor is it satanic or masonic. Is it wrong? Yes... Is it irreverent? Yes...

The choice of everything in that performance is very intentional, she wasn't mocking icons, she is mocking the Roman Catholic Church, maybe even religion in general.

There is not a conspiracy within the music industry or anything like that. She simply wants shock value and to stick it to society and what some people consider respectable and reverent.

She stands for immorality and vice, and promotes it in her music. It isn't about her being part of some conspiracy, satanic cult or anything like that. It's simply her being who she is, and desiring to shock people and cause people to talk about her and her music.

I once had someone tell me they believed the music industry was run by the Jews who put patterns, beats, etc... in the music to perform mind control and get people to do drugs and kill themselves. There are some really crazy ideas out there, don't believe them.

Again, please, for the love of God, don't get your ideas from Wikipedia, YouTube or private online websites.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 08:58:39 PM »

Also note the masonic pillars.

What makes the pillars particularly masonic?

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It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

That would involve too much intelligence. You could say that they worship stupidity, which is satanic in its own way. If the entertainment industry really were controlled by a vast Satanic cult, it would be much easier to identify Satan's influence in the world. He's more clever than you give him credit for. He works best through lame, banal crap that permeates everyday life. To be a disciple of Satan doesn't require any rituals or incantations, you just need to engage in self-worship and there are endless varieties to choose from.

Google "masonic pillar".

I haven't given a broad definition for his works and do believe that he permeates through many venues both complex and lame.   However, in consideration at one time people were shocked because Elvis shook his hips on TV, today we have blatant mockery of Iconography, clergy, and some would consider the "video" a satanic ritual.  

Believe me brother, I'm not trying to start a debate.  This is blatant & obvious evil and a slap in the face to the church & Christians.  I'm just sharing & helping to expose it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2012, 09:00:58 PM »

Google "masonic pillar".

Um, no. There is nothing particularly masonic about those pillars.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2012, 09:01:39 PM »

Also note the masonic pillars.

What makes the pillars particularly masonic?

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It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

That would involve too much intelligence. You could say that they worship stupidity, which is satanic in its own way. If the entertainment industry really were controlled by a vast Satanic cult, it would be much easier to identify Satan's influence in the world. He's more clever than you give him credit for. He works best through lame, banal crap that permeates everyday life. To be a disciple of Satan doesn't require any rituals or incantations, you just need to engage in self-worship and there are endless varieties to choose from.

Google "masonic pillar".

I haven't given a broad definition for his works and do believe that he permeates through many venues both complex and lame.   However, in consideration at one time people were shocked because Elvis shook his hips on TV, today we have blatant mockery of Iconography, clergy, and some would consider the "video" a satanic ritual.  

Believe me brother, I'm not trying to start a debate.  This is blatant & obvious evil and a slap in the face to the church & Christians.  I'm just sharing & helping to expose it.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 09:05:53 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?

This is not a conspiracy, nor is it satanic or masonic. Is it wrong? Yes... Is it irreverent? Yes...

The choice of everything in that performance is very intentional, she wasn't mocking icons, she is mocking the Roman Catholic Church, maybe even religion in general.

There is not a conspiracy within the music industry or anything like that. She simply wants shock value and to stick it to society and what some people consider respectable and reverent.

She stands for immorality and vice, and promotes it in her music. It isn't about her being part of some conspiracy, satanic cult or anything like that. It's simply her being who she is, and desiring to shock people and cause people to talk about her and her music.

I once had someone tell me they believed the music industry was run by the Jews who put patterns, beats, etc... in the music to perform mind control and get people to do drugs and kill themselves. There are some really crazy ideas out there, don't believe them.

Again, please, for the love of God, don't get your ideas from Wikipedia, YouTube or private online websites.

88Devin12 - I think you would be surprised with how many EO Christians and Christians alike would heavily disagree with you and do believe there is conspiracy and masonry within the music industry.

Also, as for sources

1) Wikipedia, go look up "Eastern Orthodox", show me where it is wrong?
2) Youtube, this is NOT something you should diss as an invalid source, as there are a tremendous amount of documentary videos made by experts on different subjects.
3) Private online web sites can have expert publishers.

Private online web sites are not very different from books.
Youtube is a library of videos, some good, some bad, some well researched, some not.
Wikipedia can be very reliable.

Despite this, why the heck does everything turn into a debate on this forum?  I thought people would be more with me and upset over this.  

LOOK, there are icons in the background as blasphemic elements and presentations are present.   My intent is not to debate anybody.  My intent is to spread what the Main Stream Media is BEAMING into your homes.  
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 09:06:37 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

I admit I didn't watch the clip. I don't give a      .

But I would bet anything going on there pillarwise has very little to do with masonry. Maybe carpentry.

When did masonry get such a bad name? Wasn't Our Lord one?
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 09:08:33 PM »

Also note the masonic pillars.

What makes the pillars particularly masonic?

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It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

That would involve too much intelligence. You could say that they worship stupidity, which is satanic in its own way. If the entertainment industry really were controlled by a vast Satanic cult, it would be much easier to identify Satan's influence in the world. He's more clever than you give him credit for. He works best through lame, banal crap that permeates everyday life. To be a disciple of Satan doesn't require any rituals or incantations, you just need to engage in self-worship and there are endless varieties to choose from.

Google "masonic pillar".

I haven't given a broad definition for his works and do believe that he permeates through many venues both complex and lame.   However, in consideration at one time people were shocked because Elvis shook his hips on TV, today we have blatant mockery of Iconography, clergy, and some would consider the "video" a satanic ritual.  

Believe me brother, I'm not trying to start a debate.  This is blatant & obvious evil and a slap in the face to the church & Christians.  I'm just sharing & helping to expose it.

huh?

Do you know what sharing & exposing is?  Sharing is when you have something, information and/or and item, and you pass it along or let somebody borrow.

Exposing is to show something that is hidden, semi hidden, or not very noticeable.   This is like BACKGROUND ICONS.

So I want to help the individuals who posted the video to SHARE and EXPOSE it.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2012, 09:09:30 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

I admit I didn't watch the clip. I don't give a      .

But I would bet anything going on there pillarwise has very little to do with masonry. Maybe carpentry.

When did masonry get such a bad name? Wasn't Our Lord one?

Not unless our Lord Worshiped Lucifer.  Morals and Dogma clearly states "Lucifer is the God of Freemasonry".
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2012, 09:10:51 PM »

The Grammies can do whatever they want, they are not important at all.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2012, 09:11:15 PM »

Do you know what sharing & exposing is?

Calm down a little, man . . .

"Expose and share" as a classroom exercise has been on the way out in many schools districts for sometime. Much to chagrin to many an RC pedarast pedagoge.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2012, 09:11:40 PM »

Yeshuaism, what do you think about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion??

What about the Holocaust?
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2012, 09:12:38 PM »

Not unless our Lord Worshiped Lucifer.  Morals and Dogma clearly states "Lucifer is the God of Freemasonry".

I didn't say He didn't work scale . . .
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2012, 09:12:45 PM »

Wow, I'm stumped.....

Everything is a debate here.  Even icons being mocked on TV.
Guys, look anybody that doubts that Freemasonry is NOT a Luciferian CHURCH is SIMPLY NOT READING the Mason's OWN TEXTS.  
It's PLAIN and SIMPLE!!!!   To argue this fact ONLY SHOWS that arguers simply do NOT know about Masonry at all and/or have not read their texts.

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2012, 09:14:51 PM »

Yeshuaism, what do you think about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion??

What about the Holocaust?

What do you think about digressing?

88Devin12, what do you think about blasphemy being presented by the MSM in front of Icons?
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2012, 09:15:48 PM »

Something

Dude, I've bent a little conduit in my time. I can say pretty darn well. We are talking some serious exposed runs.

I don't know nothing about masonry. Sorry.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2012, 09:16:43 PM »

Yeshuaism, what do you think about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion??

What about the Holocaust?

What do you think about digressing?

88Devin12, what do you think about blasphemy being presented by the MSM in front of Icons?

It's sad, but that is what the world does. It's nothing new or special...
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2012, 09:16:56 PM »

Ok,

I guess I should not say anything.  Nevermind.

Let em mock icons, who am I to say? I don't even attend an EO church and I'm more up in arms about it those who call themselves EO Christians.

My love for the church still exists...  Sorry.
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2012, 09:19:21 PM »

Ok,

I guess I should not say anything.  Nevermind.

Let em mock icons, who am I to say? I don't even attend an EO church and I'm more up in arms about it those who call themselves EO Christians.

My love for the church still exists...  Sorry.

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2012, 09:19:39 PM »

Ok,

I guess I should not say anything.  Nevermind.

Let em mock icons, who am I to say? I don't even attend an EO church and I'm more up in arms about it those who call themselves EO Christians.

My love for the church still exists...  Sorry.

There is nothing you or anyone can do about it do why worry about it? The world is going to do what it is going to do.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2012, 09:25:54 PM »

Seems an appropriate Babylonian ritual to commemorate the fall of another Babylonian idol.



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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2012, 09:32:42 PM »

Seems an appropriate Babylonian ritual to commemorate the fall of another Babylonian idol.



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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2012, 09:41:35 PM »

Seems an appropriate Babylonian ritual to commemorate the fall of another Babylonian idol.



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I'm not smart enough to get most of your witticisms. Embarrassed



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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2012, 10:47:04 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?

you are absolutely correct.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2012, 11:00:21 PM »

I'm more shocked that any of you watched the Grammy Awards. I mean, both my father and brother have been involved in the music industry for a total of about 60 years and counting and I asked my father if he was going to watch it and he said "only after I've done everything else I can think to do with my time." I would think that this is just about the level of attention that any of these spectacles merit. Looking for Masonic or Satanic this-or-that in this kind of show is akin to looking for Satanic messages in your Alfa-Bits cereal. In a past decade, you could have been counted on to provide court testimony against Judas Priest... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2012, 11:04:21 PM »

Nicki Minaj and Kanye West both incorporate occultic elements into their music and shows. West especially plays with occultic imagery and seems to have an unusual interest with the devil and the earthly power he wields. I remember when I heard "Niggas in Paris" for the first time. My jaw nearly dropped. I avoid West like the plague now. Whatever he is messing with, I don't want to associate with it in any way. As far as Freemasonry goes, I don't know a thing about it, except that Orthodox Christians shouldn't join any of their fraternal organizations, so I can't speak on that. I will say that I was disturbed though when i focused in and realized I was looking at an Icon of St Paul in that video. Wow!

And for the record: I don't believe in a vast Satanic/Masonic cult that controls the music industry. A lot of artists, whether in music or not, have played with the concept of the devil quite a bit. The image that the West has given him is an interesting one and I get why an artist would want to explore it through their art. I don't think the image is an accurate one, but I also don't think it is harmless. I believe it is unbelievably dangerous.
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2012, 11:37:18 PM »

Nicki Minaj and Kanye West both incorporate occultic elements into their music and shows. West especially plays with occultic imagery and seems to have an unusual interest with the devil and the earthly power he wields. I remember when I heard "Niggas in Paris" for the first time. My jaw nearly dropped. I avoid West like the plague now. Whatever he is messing with, I don't want to associate with it in any way.

I looked up that 'song'... sure its pure stupid crap but what about it is occultic?
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2012, 11:51:23 PM »

Hey Jason,

I apologize, but I don't have the time or the patience to substantiate my claim right now, so I retract it. It probably wasn't a good song to use as an example as it requires that I explain the backstory. Actually, I probably shouldn't be posting at all on these sorts of things, considering I no longer have a computer, only my iPhone, and don't have the patience to provide lengthy responses. FYI: I dont listen to that sort of music regularly and don't recommend others do, I just work with teenagers all day and try to stay in touch with what they are exposed to and interested in. :-)
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I have no idea who that is, but, those are definitely icons in the background.

....just another reason not to fill your ears with the noise coming from the radio these days.
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2012, 12:41:02 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?

Can't some music just suck without there having to be a conspiracy about it?

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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2012, 12:42:58 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Seems an appropriate Babylonian ritual to commemorate the fall of another Babylonian idol.



Selam

You do realize that only Ethiopian gives Babylonian a run as the most absurd modifier to the word empire.




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Please, GiC already had enough fun Eurocentrically mocking Ethiopian history and civilization, I'd appreciate it if you kindly grew up Wink

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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2012, 12:58:23 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?

Can't some music just suck without there having to be a conspiracy about it?

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(And you say we never agree about anything... Wink)
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2012, 01:01:11 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roPnQjB5EEg  (first 20 seconds or so in the background)

Also note the masonic pillars.

It is my opinion much of the music industry incorporates satanic & masonic rituals in their "entertainment programming".

I'm curious what other people's opinions are?

This is not a conspiracy, nor is it satanic or masonic. Is it wrong? Yes... Is it irreverent? Yes...

The choice of everything in that performance is very intentional, she wasn't mocking icons, she is mocking the Roman Catholic Church, maybe even religion in general.

There is not a conspiracy within the music industry or anything like that. She simply wants shock value and to stick it to society and what some people consider respectable and reverent.

She stands for immorality and vice, and promotes it in her music. It isn't about her being part of some conspiracy, satanic cult or anything like that. It's simply her being who she is, and desiring to shock people and cause people to talk about her and her music.

I once had someone tell me they believed the music industry was run by the Jews who put patterns, beats, etc... in the music to perform mind control and get people to do drugs and kill themselves. There are some really crazy ideas out there, don't believe them.

Again, please, for the love of God, don't get your ideas from Wikipedia, YouTube or private online websites.

88Devin12 - I think you would be surprised with how many EO Christians and Christians alike would heavily disagree with you and do believe there is conspiracy and masonry within the music industry.
The mere fact that many believe there is a masonic conspiracy within the music industry doesn't mean there really is. Many of our children believe in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy or that there's a leprechaun guarding a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow, but that doesn't mean that any of these is real.

Face it, yesh, not everyone joins you in looking for a masonic conspiracy under every rock.

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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2012, 01:02:57 AM »

I'm a bit confused. No rude comments, please!  laugh But I don't even know who these people are, let alone if they are satanists. Did they make their *religious choice* public?
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2012, 01:19:55 AM »

They're not satanists, they're idiots. It's a common mistake.

Funnily enough, past artists who have flirted with similar imagery or stage theatrics didn't usually attempt to blur the line between their personal behavior and stage personas. Alice Cooper is an Evangelical and teaches Sunday school. Tom Araya of the heavy metal band Slayer is a committed Roman Catholic. Believe it or not, putting stupid and offensive religious overtones into music and stage shows does not necessarily tell you much about the performer engaging in it. These kinds of elaborate stage productions are generally a group effort also including management and other people, often with minimal and/or ignored direct input from the artist (particularly if they're new and don't have much clout). And that's a good thing, or else they'd probably come off looking even stupider. Don't any of you remember that scene in Spinal Tap with the Stonehenge set piece? Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2012, 01:20:02 AM »

Please, GiC already had enough fun Eurocentrically mocking Ethiopian history and civilization, I'd appreciate it if you kindly grew up Wink

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Civilization and history are European constructs. Get used to it.
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2012, 01:24:41 AM »

I remember when I heard "Niggas in Paris" for the first time.

It's just one of the moments. When Kennedy was assassinated, first kiss, 9/11, first time hearing Niggas in Paris . . . Some things you can never forget.
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2012, 01:28:08 AM »

Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

Please, GiC already had enough fun Eurocentrically mocking Ethiopian history and civilization, I'd appreciate it if you kindly grew up Wink

stay blessed,
habte selassie

Civilization and history are European constructs. Get used to it.







hmm.. my mistake.

stay blessed,
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2012, 01:31:34 AM »

Kanye West owns. Do you really think he believes all that occultic stuff? He's doing it for shock and attention. Sorry you can't handle the heat.

Nicki Minaj is awesome too.
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2012, 01:34:58 AM »

Pfft. Everyone knows that the pyramids were built by Masons. And space aliens built everything in Ethiopia before the Italians showed up. The guy with the crazy hair on the History Channel told me so.
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2012, 01:37:58 AM »

You appropriating such things as "civilization" and "history" are Euro-centric.

Sorry buddy. You are the ultimate of what you wish you to fight against.

You arrogantly sling the the arguments of the Ivory Tower and reduce that alien to the well known and familiar and presume to understand that which you cannot.

You turn the unknown into commodities of university research, a thoroughly and essentially European endeavor, and pride yourself on your worldliness and tolerance, other European virtues.

Enjoy your enlightenment. Casting everything in the same light for centuries. After all, we ARE all the SAME. Good and proper Europeans. Or at least we can all aspire to be and if not we will make you such.

You treat various peoples no different than endangered botanicals to persevered for their possible medicinal uses.

But what choice do you have?

None other. Western metaphysics is just that damn powerful.
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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2012, 01:39:27 AM »

I remember when I heard "Niggas in Paris" for the first time.

It's just one of the moments. When Kennedy was assassinated, first kiss, 9/11, first time hearing Niggas in Paris . . . Some things you can never forget.

Lol. You're such a jerk sometimes/most of the time. However, your post did bring me to the realization that I can't remember my first kiss or who it even was!!!  Now that is sad!
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