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The Henotikon
« on: June 12, 2010, 07:07:14 PM »
I would also be interested to hear what people have to say about the Henotikon of Patriarch Acacius. Beforehand it would seem that the OO authorities required rejection of Chalcedon without compromise. Then Pope Peter III of Alexandria and Patriarch Peter "the Fuller" of Antioch accepted the Henotikon which did not include a condemnation of Chalcedon. Then it seems that there were some who began to reject the Henotikon, particularly St. Severus of Antioch and, if I remember correctly, the Second Council of Dvin.

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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 12:32:01 PM »
The Henotikon contained an acceptable confession of faith, but it failed to either condemn or support Chalcedon and was therefore in the end unable to bring about unity. Just ignoring a problem never maes it go away.

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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 06:15:59 PM »
Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

I was reading some Saint Severus and then some other histories about Emperor Zeno and Emperor Justinian and the whole Henotikon episode..

I was thinking:

Considering the sentiment expressed by the Orientals was sometimes more personality driven then ideological, perhaps then was the rejection of the Henotikon by the Oriental side more so because it lacked Anathemas against the individuals involved in the Chalcedon debates or because of its lacking of emphasizing a miaphysis?

It seems to me that when we dig into the historical sources, a lot of the beef was more individual and personality driven than any substantive doctrinal disputes, on both sides, the Byzantines seemed to be more upset with the Oriental personalities then the doctrines being discussed, and likewise the Orientals seemed to be more upset with the individuals in Byzantium polity rather than the doctrines themselves.  Yes, both sides ostentatiously claimed to be discussing theology, but when the rubber hits the road, it seems name-dropping was a lot more prevelant in their communications then doctrinal disputation.

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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 11:22:30 PM »
It seems this thread didn't get too much action when it was first started, and possibly won't fare any better now.

Nevertheless, I'd like to add a question to the mix: in modern-day Orthodoxy (EO and OO) is the Henotikon something that only scholars talk about? Or is it something that might, say, come up in a homily/sermon every once in a blue moon?
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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2012, 11:33:16 PM »
It seems this thread didn't get too much action when it was first started, and possibly won't fare any better now.

Nevertheless, I'd like to add a question to the mix: in modern-day Orthodoxy (EO and OO) is the Henotikon something that only scholars talk about? Or is it something that might, say, come up in a homily/sermon every once in a blue moon?

I have never, ever, heard anyone say the word 'Henotikon' let alone go into any detail, in Church.  I've rarely even read the word outside the context of OO-EO relations.
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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 07:19:34 AM »
Its a word I use fairly regularly. The Henotikon is important from lots of points of views. Of course it depends in whose company I am in. But I would expect educated clergy and laity to know of it.
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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 12:10:46 PM »
I guess that leads into my next question: does the use of it vary from one Church to another? For example, one might suppose that the Syriac Church (OO) and the Antiochian Church (EO), which have close relations with one another, would use it a lot.
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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 07:20:29 PM »
Its a word I use fairly regularly. The Henotikon is important from lots of points of views. Of course it depends in whose company I am in. But I would expect educated clergy and laity to know of it.

But do you frequently use it in homilies?  Certainly most educated clergy and laity should know it, but most people - I find - are not educated enough (with the exception of many, if not most, priests) in Church history to the point where they would know much if anything about the Henotikon.
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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 08:36:12 PM »
Is the Henotikon available to read as a paper book or online?
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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 02:43:34 PM »
Is the Henotikon available to read as a paper book or online?

Biro, it starts at about a quarter of the way down the page.

CHAPTER XIV.
THE HENOTICON (INSTRUMENT OF UNION).

From Evagrius Scholasticus, Ecclesiastical History (AD431-594), translated by E. Walford (1846).  Book 3.

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/evagrius_3_book3.htm
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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 03:16:57 PM »
Is the Henotikon available to read as a paper book or online?

Biro, it starts at about a quarter of the way down the page.

CHAPTER XIV.
THE HENOTICON (INSTRUMENT OF UNION).

From Evagrius Scholasticus, Ecclesiastical History (AD431-594), translated by E. Walford (1846).  Book 3.

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/evagrius_3_book3.htm

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Re: The Henotikon
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 03:53:20 PM »
Is the Henotikon available to read as a paper book or online?

Biro, it starts at about a quarter of the way down the page.

CHAPTER XIV.
THE HENOTICON (INSTRUMENT OF UNION).

From Evagrius Scholasticus, Ecclesiastical History (AD431-594), translated by E. Walford (1846).  Book 3.

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/evagrius_3_book3.htm

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