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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 01:38:30 PM » |
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The question is why they were there in the first place. Why would any non-Saudi or non-Muslim would like to live in Saudi Arabia.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 01:46:53 PM » |
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I am guessing that they work in the oil refineries. Such a tolerant nation.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 01:48:42 PM » |
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money, mission, many reasons.
but i don't know them, so can't really say.
may God have mercy on them.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 03:36:11 PM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The question is why they were there in the first place. Why would any non-Saudi or non-Muslim would like to live in Saudi Arabia.
Ethiopia can be a wild place, politically and economically speaking, and Saudi Arabia has some lucrative business relationships with Ethiopia so the opportunities are there.. The real question is why are the Saudis making such a gamble to rock the Ethiopian boat? Perhaps its deeper than that, the current Ethiopian regime is rather nefarious, especially towards expatriates as they make them look bad because more Ethiopians are fleeing Ethiopia today then during the Derg, and the Saudis have it real good with the current Ethiopian regime.. stay blessed, habte selassie |
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 03:45:57 PM » |
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The answer is simple: Islam is the religion of peace.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 03:50:11 PM » |
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The real question is why are the Saudis making such a gamble to rock the Ethiopian boat? Because nobody will stop them. Do you think the mighty United Nations would dare chastize them? What about the US? The african nations surely wont do anything. Surely the other adherent nations to the "religion of peace" wont do anything. Saudis have it real good with the current Ethiopian regime and with everyone else too. Basically, when you have the world by the short and curlies, you can pretty much do whatever you want. Lord have mercy, and may these brothers and sisters in Christ find solace somewhere safe. PP |
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 03:57:55 PM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The answer is simple: Islam is the religion of peace.
No, it may be WAY more complicated than you seem to think. The real question is why are the Saudis making such a gamble to rock the Ethiopian boat? Because nobody will stop them. Do you think the mighty United Nations would dare chastize them? What about the US? The african nations surely wont do anything. Surely the other adherent nations to the "religion of peace" wont do anything. Saudis have it real good with the current Ethiopian regime and with everyone else too. Basically, when you have the world by the short and curlies, you can pretty much do whatever you want. Lord have mercy, and may these brothers and sisters in Christ find solace somewhere safe. PP No, but the Ethiopians could cut them off from the multi-BILLION dollar Saudi agricultural investments within Ethiopia proper and keep the infrastructure as a consolation prize Foreign investors and corporations, like in much of African aren't allowed to legally own land, they must ALWAYS operate through middlemen, and such is a fragile relationship when we are talking about billions of dollars. Saudis wouldn't want to upset the Ethiopian regime too much, which is precisely why Ethiopian Christian expats are living in Saudi Arabia in the first place, wouldn't Ethiopian Muslims seem a better fit? However the regime is largely Christian (at least in name if not in practice) Again, I would then suspect the Ethiopian regime is in some cahoots with this.. For example, cadres from the regime have been known to infiltrate and even terrorize expatriate communities across the African continent and even the world at large. stay blessed, habte selassie |
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 04:00:27 PM » |
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There are also many Christian Filipinos and Indians in Saudi, who likewise go there for work. The Filipinos often feel compelled to lie and say they are from Mindanao (the autonomous "Muslim province" in the Philippines which does not have a Muslim majority) in order to make their lives bearable. The large number of Filipinos was one of the reasons why the Vatican was in negotiations with the government of KSA for a church to be built there a little while ago. Of course the negotiations came to nothing because the government of KSA are a bunch of neanderthals and insane people. And these people lecture the rest of the world on tolerance for their religion? It makes me sick.
Lord have mercy on the struggling and oppressed Christians in Saudi Arabia, no matter where they are from. I know there are also some hidden believers among the Saudi Arabs, as well, though of course the majority of Saudis will deny it (I have befriended two such believers via the internet).
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 04:30:40 PM » |
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No, but the Ethiopians could cut them off from the multi-BILLION dollar Saudi agricultural investments within Ethiopia proper and keep the infrastructure as a consolation prize But they wont. The Saudis have a good part of the world held at gunpoint because they can inflate oil prices very fast. Ethiopia will do what everyone else will do. They will bow to the Saudis. Mark my words. Foreign investors and corporations, like in much of African aren't allowed to legally own land, they must ALWAYS operate through middlemen, and such is a fragile relationship when we are talking about billions of dollars Sweet 'lil set-up they've made for themselves. Saudis wouldn't want to upset the Ethiopian regime too much, which is precisely why Ethiopian Christian expats are living in Saudi Arabia in the first place, wouldn't Ethiopian Muslims seem a better fit? The Saudis dont care what the Ethiopians do for the same reason why the Saudis dont bat an eyelash when we complain about the Saudi's treatment of women, Christians, and "undemocratic" practices. They hold all the cards. You gotta play ball with O.P.E.C. and to do that, you gotta play ball with the Saudis. However the regime is largely Christian (at least in name if not in practice) I dont put alot of faith in modern governments that claim Christianity. IMHO politics always comes first, and Christ second in such regimes. Of course there are exceptions, but they are few. cadres from the regime have been known to infiltrate and even terrorize expatriate communities across the African continent and even the world at large Christian indeed........ The Filipinos often feel compelled to lie and say they are from Mindanao (the autonomous "Muslim province" in the Philippines which does not have a Muslim majority) in order to make their lives bearable I know a guy from there that did that. I know there are also some hidden believers among the Saudi Arabs, as well, though of course the majority of Saudis will deny it (I have befriended two such believers via the internet). May the lord protect such brave believers!!! PP |
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 04:51:24 PM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The answer is simple: Islam is the religion of peace.
No, it may be WAY more complicated than you seem to think. The real question is why are the Saudis making such a gamble to rock the Ethiopian boat? Because nobody will stop them. Do you think the mighty United Nations would dare chastize them? What about the US? The african nations surely wont do anything. Surely the other adherent nations to the "religion of peace" wont do anything. Saudis have it real good with the current Ethiopian regime and with everyone else too. Basically, when you have the world by the short and curlies, you can pretty much do whatever you want. Lord have mercy, and may these brothers and sisters in Christ find solace somewhere safe. PP No, but the Ethiopians could cut them off from the multi-BILLION dollar Saudi agricultural investments within Ethiopia proper and keep the infrastructure as a consolation prize Foreign investors and corporations, like in much of African aren't allowed to legally own land, they must ALWAYS operate through middlemen, and such is a fragile relationship when we are talking about billions of dollars. Saudis wouldn't want to upset the Ethiopian regime too much, which is precisely why Ethiopian Christian expats are living in Saudi Arabia in the first place, wouldn't Ethiopian Muslims seem a better fit? However the regime is largely Christian (at least in name if not in practice) Again, I would then suspect the Ethiopian regime is in some cahoots with this.. For example, cadres from the regime have been known to infiltrate and even terrorize expatriate communities across the African continent and even the world at large. stay blessed, habte selassie Yes, it may well be much more complicated. However, I wanted to throw in that little jab anyway. It simply is wrong to say that Islam is the religion of peace, although many Muslims are indeed peaceful. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 05:40:57 PM » |
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Has any other country offered to take them in? It's horrible to be deported, but if it results in them not having to live in the KSA anymore, then...  |
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 11:56:55 PM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Foreign investors and corporations, like in much of African aren't allowed to legally own land, they must ALWAYS operate through middlemen, and such is a fragile relationship when we are talking about billions of dollars Sweet 'lil set-up they've made for themselves. PP Indeed, that is because Africans haven't rolled over and forgotten history..  By the way, India and many other nations have the same kinds of 50-50 rules regarding foreign investment and ownership. Don't forget that the first colonizers were not nations or kingdoms but businesses and corporations stay blessed, habte selassie |
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 12:50:12 AM » |
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Greetings in that Divine and Most Precious Name of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Foreign investors and corporations, like in much of African aren't allowed to legally own land, they must ALWAYS operate through middlemen, and such is a fragile relationship when we are talking about billions of dollars Sweet 'lil set-up they've made for themselves. PP Indeed, that is because Africans haven't rolled over and forgotten history.. By the way, India and many other nations have the same kinds of 50-50 rules regarding foreign investment and ownership. Don't forget that the first colonizers were not nations or kingdoms but businesses and corporations stay blessed, habte selassie Amen! Selam |
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