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Offline Kaste

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Council of Orange: Good or bad?
« on: January 29, 2012, 11:06:18 PM »
hi folks,

Council of Orange: good or bad?

St. John Cassian: right or semi-wrong? 

Specifically does Orthodoxy disagree with the Council of Orange?  Does Catholicism embrace Orange wholly?  Papist, where you at? 

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Re: Council of Orange: Good or bad?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 04:32:44 PM »
hi folks,

Council of Orange: good or bad?
Which one?

St. John Cassian: right or semi-wrong?
About what? 

Specifically does Orthodoxy disagree with the Council of Orange?  Does Catholicism embrace Orange wholly?  Papist, where you at? 

Don't know; don't know; don't know.  ;)
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Re: Council of Orange: Good or bad?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 09:08:40 PM »
haha

ok

fine

have

it

your

way:

The Orange council that spoke against pelagianism, but seemed to go too far against free will.  Protestants make use of this to support Calvinism.  Orthodox point to John Cassian who gave a lesser extreme answer on free will and grace, but is sometimes accused to semi-pelagianism.  So do Catholics fully support this council entirely or take issue with some of its view of grace operating with free will? 

K
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