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Question: Do you believe that Fr. Seraphim Rose should be canonized as a Saint?
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« Reply #90 on: February 07, 2012, 02:48:57 PM »

Can we have Fr. Seraphim without the toll-houses?  Cry

What is your problem with toll houses? It is a pretty legit idea.
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« Reply #91 on: February 07, 2012, 06:13:35 PM »

Can we have Fr. Seraphim without the toll-houses?  Cry

What is your problem with toll houses? It is a pretty legit idea.

ya, i dont really care for them...see the 20 page thread Undecided
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« Reply #92 on: February 07, 2012, 06:20:32 PM »

Can we have Fr. Seraphim without the toll-houses?  Cry

Can we have John Chrystostom without attributing sins to the Mother of God? Can we have Gregory of Nyssa without Apokatastasis? Can we have Elder Paisios without Greek Nationalism?
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« Reply #93 on: February 07, 2012, 06:24:03 PM »

The answer to all of those would be "Sure, but it wouldn't be nearly as fun."
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« Reply #94 on: February 07, 2012, 06:27:05 PM »

The answer to all of those would be "Sure, but it wouldn't be nearly as fun."

LOL.

It would be a lot funnier since Nationalism of Paisios drives me nuts makes me unable to comprehend any of his teachings.
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« Reply #95 on: February 07, 2012, 06:47:55 PM »

Was he really that nationalistic?  I only ask because one of his disciples, Met. Athanaius of Limassol, is very un-nationalistic.
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« Reply #96 on: February 07, 2012, 07:01:42 PM »

Elder Paisios did express a deep love for Greece and it's culture and language, but that's only natural. I don't consider him any more nationalistic than so many other saints and elders
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« Reply #97 on: February 08, 2012, 03:38:53 AM »

Was he really that nationalistic?  I only ask because one of his disciples, Met. Athanaius of Limassol, is very un-nationalistic.

That's how I understood some of his speeches that I've read. IIRC he talks about regions and culture of his childhood and contrasts those with supposed European culture which one must neglect in order to become true Orthodox. His idea is seems to be that Greece and her culture is more Orthodox than "European culture" which probably means Northern and Central Europe and her culture.
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« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2012, 01:19:04 AM »

Was he really that nationalistic?  I only ask because one of his disciples, Met. Athanaius of Limassol, is very un-nationalistic.

That's how I understood some of his speeches that I've read. IIRC he talks about regions and culture of his childhood and contrasts those with supposed European culture which one must neglect in order to become true Orthodox. His idea is seems to be that Greece and her culture is more Orthodox than "European culture" which probably means Northern and Central Europe and her culture.

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« Reply #99 on: February 09, 2012, 01:33:54 AM »

Blasphemous picture of Fr. Seraphim Rose:



As you can see, he is expressing the passion of smiling. This photo must have been altered by World Orthodoxy to discredit him.
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« Reply #100 on: February 09, 2012, 09:54:09 AM »

One word: Origen
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« Reply #101 on: February 09, 2012, 10:07:24 AM »

Blasphemous picture of Fr. Seraphim Rose:

<blasphemous image of smiling Fr. Seraphim removed>

As you can see, he is expressing the passion of smiling. This photo must have been altered by World Orthodoxy to discredit him.

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« Reply #102 on: February 09, 2012, 11:04:04 AM »

Blasphemous picture of Fr. Seraphim Rose:

<blasphemous image of smiling Fr. Seraphim removed>

As you can see, he is expressing the passion of smiling. This photo must have been altered by World Orthodoxy to discredit him.

Not everybody can be like St. Silouan the Athonite.

Please excuse me for asking because it is often tough to tell when posters are really being serious ... Are you guys serious about the smiling thing or are you, as I hope, trying to make a point with a touch of irony. Thanks!
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« Reply #103 on: February 09, 2012, 11:09:34 AM »

Blasphemous picture of Fr. Seraphim Rose:

<blasphemous image of smiling Fr. Seraphim removed>

As you can see, he is expressing the passion of smiling. This photo must have been altered by World Orthodoxy to discredit him.

Not everybody can be like St. Silouan the Athonite.

Please excuse me for asking because it is often tough to tell when posters are really being serious ... Are you guys serious about the smiling thing or are you, as I hope, trying to make a point with a touch of irony. Thanks!

Well, I do believe that it is often said that St. Silouan never laughed. Whether laughing is an impediment to holiness, I don't know.
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« Reply #104 on: February 09, 2012, 05:08:48 PM »

In this thread, someone mentioned a possible problem in Fr. Seraphim Rose' approach to the charismatic movement. Did he support this movement, speaking in tongues and all?
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« Reply #105 on: February 09, 2012, 05:11:45 PM »

In this thread, someone mentioned a possible problem in Fr. Seraphim Rose' approach to the charismatic movement. Did he support this movement, speaking in tongues and all?

definitely not! he was quite critical of it, and i guess some people may think he went too far. he discerned that it could sometimes be of demonic influence.
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« Reply #106 on: February 09, 2012, 05:13:27 PM »

In this thread, someone mentioned a possible problem in Fr. Seraphim Rose' approach to the charismatic movement. Did he support this movement, speaking in tongues and all?

definitely not! he was quite critical of it, and i guess some people may think he went too far. he discerned that it could sometimes be of demonic influence.
Were there any strains of the charismatic community present among Eastern Orthodox Christians?
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« Reply #107 on: February 09, 2012, 05:18:44 PM »

In this thread, someone mentioned a possible problem in Fr. Seraphim Rose' approach to the charismatic movement. Did he support this movement, speaking in tongues and all?

definitely not! he was quite critical of it, and i guess some people may think he went too far. he discerned that it could sometimes be of demonic influence.
Were there any strains of the charismatic community present among Eastern Orthodox Christians?

there is one priest in particular, Fr. Eusebius Stephanou, who is influenced by the charismatic movement. Fr. Seraphim speaks of his theology and shows it to be quite un-Orthodox.
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« Reply #108 on: February 09, 2012, 05:41:18 PM »

I agree with Fr. Seraphim on this. I think Charismaticism is dangerous.

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« Reply #109 on: February 09, 2012, 05:44:02 PM »

Blasphemous picture of Fr. Seraphim Rose:

<blasphemous image of smiling Fr. Seraphim removed>

As you can see, he is expressing the passion of smiling. This photo must have been altered by World Orthodoxy to discredit him.

Not everybody can be like St. Silouan the Athonite.

Please excuse me for asking because it is often tough to tell when posters are really being serious ... Are you guys serious about the smiling thing or are you, as I hope, trying to make a point with a touch of irony. Thanks!

Well, I do believe that it is often said that St. Silouan never laughed. Whether laughing is an impediment to holiness, I don't know.

A well thought out homily on laughter may be found at this link. We are not all called to monastic virtue and we often forget that monks are people as well.

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« Reply #110 on: February 09, 2012, 07:20:51 PM »

Blasphemous picture of Fr. Seraphim Rose:

<blasphemous image of smiling Fr. Seraphim removed>

As you can see, he is expressing the passion of smiling. This photo must have been altered by World Orthodoxy to discredit him.

Not everybody can be like St. Silouan the Athonite.

Please excuse me for asking because it is often tough to tell when posters are really being serious ... Are you guys serious about the smiling thing or are you, as I hope, trying to make a point with a touch of irony. Thanks!
The latter.
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We're always serious...........

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« Reply #112 on: February 09, 2012, 08:58:53 PM »

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Did I miss something? Why is everyone adopting St. Patrick avatars?
Well, I respect St. Patrick, but I am also passively protesting something that I'd rather not say on a public forum.

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« Reply #114 on: February 10, 2012, 12:07:01 AM »

Did I miss something? Why is everyone adopting St. Patrick avatars?

I love Irish things.
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I love Irish things.

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« Reply #116 on: February 10, 2012, 01:29:50 PM »

I agree with Fr. Seraphim on this. I think Charismaticism is dangerous.

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« Reply #119 on: July 21, 2012, 10:08:58 AM »

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« Reply #120 on: July 21, 2012, 10:54:06 AM »

I think he is a saint. But due to the tempest in the teapot in this country over toll houses, I wouldn't be surprised if he was canonized elsewhere.

I know he's controversial in his own right, but I once read an even-handed assessment of the situation by OCA bishop Tikhon (Fitzgerald), who basically said Fr Seraphim believed in prayer book toll houses, and the argument blew up with the then-Dcn Lev and got out of hand. They were silenced because of the public argument, not because Fr Seraphim was wrong.

Anyway, thats my assessment, but let's not get bogged down in that debate here. I don't think toll houses are a significant problem regardless. Many saints have opinions. Saint means Holy, and that should be our main criterion. I don't think anyone would argue Fr Seraphim is not in heaven, so I fail to see the problem. I hope they uncover his relics someday soon.
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« Reply #121 on: July 21, 2012, 12:22:54 PM »

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I still think that he is a Saint.

He is.
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« Reply #122 on: July 21, 2012, 02:14:40 PM »

Holy Saint Seraphim of Platina, pray for us!
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« Reply #123 on: July 21, 2012, 03:26:22 PM »

He is.

I look at Fr. Seraphim much like he looked at St. Augustine: A great example of repentance and ascetic struggle, but who, in his zeal to combat various errors, went too far in the opposite direction, resulting in some rather questionable positions (his book on the Soul After Death being an example).
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« Reply #124 on: July 21, 2012, 04:01:38 PM »

In this thread, someone mentioned a possible problem in Fr. Seraphim Rose' approach to the charismatic movement. Did he support this movement, speaking in tongues and all?

definitely not! he was quite critical of it, and i guess some people may think he went too far. he discerned that it could sometimes be of demonic influence.

I never heard of Fr. Seraphim Rose before this thread, but I would agree with him completely on this statement.
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« Reply #125 on: July 21, 2012, 04:01:58 PM »

I don't know but I certaintly do have some admiration for the man from what I know.
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« Reply #126 on: July 22, 2012, 12:02:41 AM »

He is.

I look at Fr. Seraphim much like he looked at St. Augustine: A great example of repentance and ascetic struggle, but who, in his zeal to combat various errors, went too far in the opposite direction, resulting in some rather questionable positions (his book on the Soul After Death being an example).
In fact, IIRC, Fr. Seraphim was a big advocate for St. Augustine against those who sought to disparage Augustine's legacy.
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« Reply #127 on: July 22, 2012, 08:25:12 AM »

In fact, IIRC, Fr. Seraphim was a big advocate for St. Augustine against those who sought to disparage Augustine's legacy.

Yes, he published a small book on the subject. I think many of the arguments he makes in that book are ones we can equally apply to him.
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« Reply #128 on: July 22, 2012, 10:59:31 PM »

He is.

I look at Fr. Seraphim much like he looked at St. Augustine: A great example of repentance and ascetic struggle, but who, in his zeal to combat various errors, went too far in the opposite direction, resulting in some rather questionable positions (his book on the Soul After Death being an example).

Even if that's true, still a saint
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« Reply #129 on: July 23, 2012, 03:19:58 PM »

Even if that's true, still a saint

I believe he is, but time will tell.
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« Reply #130 on: September 06, 2012, 09:49:53 AM »

its really only in America where he is controversial. He is widely loved and venerated in Orthodox countries. At his 30th anniversary this past weekend there was a Georgian abbot and a Serbian abbot who has named a kellia after him in one of his monasteries (he is the abbot of 2). There was also Bp. Daniil of the Bulgarians who spoke of how influential Fr. Seraphim has been in Bulgaria (Met. Joseph of the Bulgarians spoke of the same 5 yrs ago). While I was at Platina this past summer a bishop from Russia came with a group of pilgrims who came to America to see St. John and Fr. Seraphim. Only Americans have problems with him (well, and a certain Canadian ....)
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« Reply #131 on: September 06, 2012, 09:54:55 AM »

There is also much ignorance of basic Christian faith in the old world and that is why it does not survive in the new world by immigrants from old world Orthodox nations. He may be loved by those of the cloth & is largely unknown by most laity.
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« Reply #132 on: September 06, 2012, 10:01:33 AM »

There is also much ignorance of basic Christian faith in the old world and that is why it does not survive in the new world by immigrants from old world Orthodox nations. He may be loved by those of the cloth & is largely unknown by most laity.

my own experiences in Greece and Serbia say otherwise, and first-hand stories I've heard from many others regarding other countries. I'm sure clergy are more aware of him, but the pious laity are as well. Bp. Daniil said that after Communism fell in Bulgaria he found that amongst those who were returning to the Church (or entering for the first time) Fr. Seraphim was very popular. Just online you can find many blogs and other websites with info on him from Romania, Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, Russia, Georgia, etc.
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« Reply #133 on: September 06, 2012, 10:10:10 AM »

its really only in America where he is controversial. He is widely loved and venerated in Orthodox countries.
In Bulgaria, he is extremely controversial.
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« Reply #134 on: September 06, 2012, 10:16:48 AM »

As I mentioned in the other thread. It doesn't matter what we, or various people in other countries think, it's entirely up to ROCOR to canonize him.
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