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« Reply #405 on: August 07, 2012, 03:54:47 PM »

War is not the answer for only love can conquer hate.

Death solves all problems.  No man, no problem.
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« Reply #406 on: August 07, 2012, 04:03:06 PM »

War is not the answer for only love can conquer hate.

Death solves all problems.  No man, no problem.

And I have never found it necessary to hate something in order to kill it.
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« Reply #407 on: August 07, 2012, 04:10:45 PM »

I was actually referring to the Jewish Ghetto Uprising in Warsaw.

Americans talking about history...

21 year olds talking about history...

21 year olds talking out their posterior inferior orifices...
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« Reply #408 on: August 07, 2012, 06:48:46 PM »

They were able to hold our for a full month against the German Army.
You left out what happened afterwards.
Since their choices before were either the death camps or starvation in the Ghetto, the only real option they had was to die with a fight or do die without a fight.
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« Reply #409 on: August 07, 2012, 06:50:47 PM »

And I have never found it necessary to hate something in order to kill it.

I've never killed anything in my life, which proves two things: 1) that I've never had to hunt for food and 2) that nothing or no one has ever tried to kill me.
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« Reply #410 on: August 07, 2012, 07:04:05 PM »


I've never killed anything in my life, which proves two things: 1) that I've never had to hunt for food and 2) that nothing or no one has ever tried to kill me.

I did a lot of 1) in my younger years.  Gave it up when I got older and found that a) I could afford to eat just about whatever I wanted without freezing my rear off in a blind all day, and b) I got far more pleasure out of blasting holes in pieces of cardboard and paper than I did in shooting at creatures that I thought were quite beautiful and often wished that I could enjoy without killing them.

I did run into 2) once in college.  I did not have to kill him since he lost all interest in proceeding when confronted with .44 calibers of stainless steel goodness pointed straight at him.  The expression on a person's face when they realize that they quite possibly made the last mistake in their life is really rather interesting - although I hope I never have to see it again.
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« Reply #411 on: August 07, 2012, 07:06:16 PM »

They were able to hold our for a full month against the German Army.
You left out what happened afterwards.
Since their choices before were either the death camps or starvation in the Ghetto, the only real option they had was to die with a fight or do die without a fight.

Better to die a hero than a victim.  They have my highest respect (even if they were fighting my ancestors).
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« Reply #412 on: August 07, 2012, 07:10:46 PM »

War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all
War, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
Ohhh, war, I despise
Because it means destruction
Of innocent lives
War means tears
To thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go to fight
And lose their lives
I said, war, huh
Good God, y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain't nothing
But a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker
Ooooh, war
It's an enemy to all mankind
The point of war blows my mind
War has caused unrest
Within the younger generation
Induction then destruction
Who wants to die
Aaaaah, war-huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it, say it, say it
War, huh
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again y'all
War, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War, it's got one friend
That's the undertaker
Ooooh, war, has shattered
Many a young mans dreams
Made him disabled, bitter and mean
Life is much to short and precious
To spend fighting wars these days
War can't give life
It can only take it away
Ooooh, war, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way
Ooooooh, war, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
You tell me
Say it, say it, say it, say it
War, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Stand up and shout it
Nothing
http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/edwin_starr/war.html
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« Reply #413 on: August 07, 2012, 10:28:59 PM »

War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again, y'all
War, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
Ohhh, war, I despise
Because it means destruction
Of innocent lives
War means tears
To thousands of mothers eyes
When their sons go to fight
And lose their lives
I said, war, huh
Good God, y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain't nothing
But a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker
Ooooh, war
It's an enemy to all mankind
The point of war blows my mind
War has caused unrest
Within the younger generation
Induction then destruction
Who wants to die
Aaaaah, war-huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it, say it, say it
War, huh
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again y'all
War, huh, good God
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War, it's got one friend
That's the undertaker
Ooooh, war, has shattered
Many a young mans dreams
Made him disabled, bitter and mean
Life is much to short and precious
To spend fighting wars these days
War can't give life
It can only take it away
Ooooh, war, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
War, whoa, Lord
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Listen to me
War, it ain't nothing but a heartbreaker
War, friend only to the undertaker
Peace, love and understanding
Tell me, is there no place for them today
They say we must fight to keep our freedom
But Lord knows there's got to be a better way
Ooooooh, war, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
You tell me
Say it, say it, say it, say it
War, huh
Good God y'all
What is it good for
Stand up and shout it
Nothing
http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/edwin_starr/war.html
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« Reply #414 on: August 08, 2012, 03:32:03 AM »

I was actually referring to the Jewish Ghetto Uprising in Warsaw.

Americans talking about history...

It might be good for you to work on your anti-American prejudice. It is unbecoming for an Orthodox Christian to disdain his brothers.

I don't see anything that Michał has written as being anti-American.  Being critical of certain aspects of US culture doesn't make one a bigot.

If you look at his points he doesn't make some valid ones that are worth considering even if you ultimately disagree.

1. There hasn't been a war fought on the US mainland since the 1860s, meaning there is no living memory of war on the home front.  The memory of the Civil War in the US has been fetishized and romanticized that it has lost any real meaning to people (reenactments, really?).

2. The experience of fighting a foreign war thousands of kilometers from home is fundamentally different than fighting a war in your home town.   

3. As an extension of the above, there is a huge cultural difference when 100% of the population bears the burdens of warfare vs. a small percentage. 

I don't see it as anti-American to consider that these factors have influenced American culture and its perception of war.   
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« Reply #415 on: August 08, 2012, 09:38:35 AM »

I was actually referring to the Jewish Ghetto Uprising in Warsaw.

Americans talking about history...

It might be good for you to work on your anti-American prejudice. It is unbecoming for an Orthodox Christian to disdain his brothers.

I don't see anything that Michał has written as being anti-American.  Being critical of certain aspects of US culture doesn't make one a bigot.

Then you should re-read his comment above being dismissive of Americans who dare to mention history.

This isn't based in reality, it is based in anti-Americanism.
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« Reply #416 on: August 08, 2012, 10:00:49 AM »

I was actually referring to the Jewish Ghetto Uprising in Warsaw.

Americans talking about history...

It might be good for you to work on your anti-American prejudice. It is unbecoming for an Orthodox Christian to disdain his brothers.

I don't see anything that Michał has written as being anti-American.  Being critical of certain aspects of US culture doesn't make one a bigot.

If you look at his points he doesn't make some valid ones that are worth considering even if you ultimately disagree.

1. There hasn't been a war fought on the US mainland since the 1860s, meaning there is no living memory of war on the home front.  The memory of the Civil War in the US has been fetishized and romanticized that it has lost any real meaning to people (reenactments, really?).

2. The experience of fighting a foreign war thousands of kilometers from home is fundamentally different than fighting a war in your home town.   

3. As an extension of the above, there is a huge cultural difference when 100% of the population bears the burdens of warfare vs. a small percentage. 

I don't see it as anti-American to consider that these factors have influenced American culture and its perception of war.   

1. There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily. All because one man went to sleep on the job. But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep before they did.

2.  I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country.  [misattributed, but still...]

3.  It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.


Perhaps the reason that America hasn't fought a major foreign incursion on our own soil is because ALL Y'ALL SUCK AT WAR!
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« Reply #417 on: August 08, 2012, 11:10:30 AM »

I was actually referring to the Jewish Ghetto Uprising in Warsaw.

Americans talking about history...

It might be good for you to work on your anti-American prejudice. It is unbecoming for an Orthodox Christian to disdain his brothers.

I don't see anything that Michał has written as being anti-American.  Being critical of certain aspects of US culture doesn't make one a bigot.

If you look at his points he doesn't make some valid ones that are worth considering even if you ultimately disagree.

1. There hasn't been a war fought on the US mainland since the 1860s, meaning there is no living memory of war on the home front.  The memory of the Civil War in the US has been fetishized and romanticized that it has lost any real meaning to people (reenactments, really?).

2. The experience of fighting a foreign war thousands of kilometers from home is fundamentally different than fighting a war in your home town.   

3. As an extension of the above, there is a huge cultural difference when 100% of the population bears the burdens of warfare vs. a small percentage. 

I don't see it as anti-American to consider that these factors have influenced American culture and its perception of war.   

1. There are four hundred neatly marked graves somewhere in Sicily. All because one man went to sleep on the job. But they are German graves, because we caught the bastard asleep before they did.

2.  I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country.  [misattributed, but still...]

3.  It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.


Perhaps the reason that America hasn't fought a major foreign incursion on our own soil is because ALL Y'ALL SUCK AT WAR!

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« Reply #418 on: August 08, 2012, 12:58:44 PM »

Perhaps the reason that America hasn't fought a major foreign incursion on our own soil is because ALL Y'ALL SUCK AT WAR!

Geography, luck, etc. have nothing to do with it.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #419 on: August 08, 2012, 01:20:33 PM »

Perhaps the reason that America hasn't fought a major foreign incursion on our own soil is because ALL Y'ALL SUCK AT WAR!

Geography, luck, etc. have nothing to do with it.   Roll Eyes

You betcha!  We have both--we have geography  (it really does help to *not* be surrounded by nasty, covetous, aggressive enemies!), and we have luck.  But in addition "ALL Y'ALL SUCK AT WAR!"  Grin
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« Reply #420 on: August 08, 2012, 01:23:37 PM »

I just bought this antique gun for $299.99, did I get a deal or what!?



Yeah!
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« Reply #421 on: August 08, 2012, 01:40:25 PM »

I just bought this antique gun for $299.99, did I get a deal or what!?



Yeah!

Uhh....if you say so.  I guess you could use it as a club or something, but a baseball bat would've been far less expensive  Grin.

I prefer this:

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« Reply #422 on: August 08, 2012, 01:42:31 PM »

What? The guy who sold it to me said that that was the gun that George Washington used when they invaded Korea in the 1860's. He gave me a certificate of authenticity and everything! Don't be jealous, ok?
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« Reply #423 on: August 08, 2012, 02:14:16 PM »

What? The guy who sold it to me said that that was the gun that George Washington used when they invaded Korea in the 1860's. He gave me a certificate of authenticity and everything! Don't be jealous, ok?

Not jealous in the least.  Btw, the guy lied to you--it's a *replica*.......... of the gun used by Howdy Doody in a hold-up of a 7 Eleven in South Bronx.  Do your research, dude!
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« Reply #424 on: August 08, 2012, 03:05:42 PM »

What? The guy who sold it to me said that that was the gun that George Washington used when they invaded Korea in the 1860's. He gave me a certificate of authenticity and everything! Don't be jealous, ok?
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« Reply #425 on: August 09, 2012, 12:18:29 PM »

What? The guy who sold it to me said that that was the gun that George Washington used when they invaded Korea in the 1860's. He gave me a certificate of authenticity and everything! Don't be jealous, ok?
You're the best



Awwwwww.......

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It took me a while to notice the sparkling  Grin
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It took me a while to notice the sparkling  Grin

Nice touch, isn't it?  Grin
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« Reply #428 on: September 11, 2012, 06:23:11 PM »

Mossberg 12 gauge pump for Trap and hunting
Taurus 38 for defense and some target
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« Reply #429 on: September 11, 2012, 11:30:15 PM »

this is the last thread id expect in a forum like this... whats the point in even owning one?
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« Reply #430 on: September 12, 2012, 07:37:51 AM »

this is the last thread id expect in a forum like this... whats the point in even owning one?
What is the point of not owning one?
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« Reply #431 on: September 12, 2012, 07:46:18 AM »

this is the last thread id expect in a forum like this... whats the point in even owning one?
What is the point of not owning one?

What is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what guns does one have and how proficiently does he uses them?
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« Reply #432 on: September 12, 2012, 02:10:01 PM »

What is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what guns does one have and how proficiently does he uses them?

Heh... And what is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what does one believe in and how well does he understand it?
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« Reply #433 on: September 12, 2012, 02:27:56 PM »

What is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what guns does one have and how proficiently does he uses them?

Heh... And what is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what does one believe in and how well does he understand it?

Yes, I have wondered the same. 
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« Reply #434 on: September 12, 2012, 02:37:11 PM »

One of my newest.  Ruger .44 Special flat top single action.  My new favorite carry gun.
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« Reply #435 on: September 12, 2012, 02:54:55 PM »

this is the last thread id expect in a forum like this... whats the point in even owning one?
What is the point of not owning one?

What is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what guns does one have and how proficiently does he uses them?

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Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.

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What is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what guns does one have and how proficiently does he uses them?

Heh... And what is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what does one believe in and how well does he understand it?

It does not simplify for potential intruders to prepare to kill you.
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« Reply #437 on: September 12, 2012, 03:47:25 PM »

One of my newest.  Ruger .44 Special flat top single action.  My new favorite carry gun.
Why on earth would you, if you must carry a gun, carry a single action?
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« Reply #438 on: September 12, 2012, 04:03:46 PM »

I'm not kidding and I can show the bodies.  I shot 4 skunks in the last 2 days.  They were raiding my chicken coop killing my chickens!  I also had to kill a raccoon last week that was also trying to raid my chickens.

I can't even say how many field rats I've killed in the past 3 months, but that's mostly with a high powered pellet gun.  I've killed NUMEROUS coyotes too with my 12 gauge that were trying to break into the goat pen to eat my goats.

I have several guns in my home that are always loaded ready to shoot.

I believe mostly the objections in this thread regard the killing of people for defense...  There are assuredly heavy theological arguments into the killing of people (non resistance and loving enemies etc.).  I lean on the "only to defend family" end of that argument, but as a last resort.  If I was a single man without children or a wife to defend, I may see things differently.

But everybody I can assure you, for somebody that has a gun in his hand at LEAST every other day (often daily) picking off some kind of critter, guns really are mandatory.  The barn cats can't handle the influx of field rats, snakes, and possums.  

My wife just reminded me, I also had to put down a field rabbit that was hit by a hawk and was just laying there suffering last week.

Guns are just a way of life out here.

Funny thing is, the .22 Long Rifle and .177 pellet gun (both hollow points) are MOST commonly used in a ranch setting.  Shotgun is rare for a coyote, but I've done those with the .22 LR just fine.

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« Reply #439 on: September 12, 2012, 04:41:44 PM »

I have several guns in my home that are always loaded ready to shoot.

Nice...
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« Reply #440 on: September 12, 2012, 04:50:29 PM »

I have several guns in my home that are always loaded ready to shoot.

Nice...

For once I agree with Michal.  Pretty cool, bro!  Way to stay prepared!
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« Reply #441 on: September 12, 2012, 05:10:07 PM »

It does not simplify for potential intruders to prepare to kill you.

I don't know, I see here mostly people that like guns for what they are. The way they look, the way they make sound of reloading, shooting, and like shooting for the sake of shooting. That they are weapons of defence/attack is one of the last things discussed here, at least as I see it.
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« Reply #442 on: September 12, 2012, 05:14:01 PM »

It does not simplify for potential intruders to prepare to kill you.

I don't know, I see here mostly people that like guns for what they are. The way they look, the way they make sound of reloading, shooting, and like shooting for the sake of shooting. That they are weapons of defence/attack is one of the last things discussed here, at least as I see it.

How quaint.  Reading what people write rather than reading what you expect to hear.
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« Reply #443 on: September 12, 2012, 06:04:41 PM »

It does not simplify for potential intruders to prepare to kill you.

I don't know, I see here mostly people that like guns for what they are. The way they look, the way they make sound of reloading, shooting, and like shooting for the sake of shooting. That they are weapons of defence/attack is one of the last things discussed here, at least as I see it.

How quaint.  Reading what people write rather than reading what you expect to hear.

Oh really?

There's my home defense device.  

You forgot to write how long have you been practising and where exactly you keep it.
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« Reply #444 on: September 12, 2012, 07:00:19 PM »

They were able to hold our for a full month against the German Army.
You left out what happened afterwards.
Since their choices before were either the death camps or starvation in the Ghetto, the only real option they had was to die with a fight or do die without a fight.

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« Reply #445 on: September 12, 2012, 07:01:49 PM »

Speaking of showing off guns, the Mr. Olympia contest is only a few weeks away! It's gonna be awesome!
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« Reply #446 on: September 12, 2012, 07:03:21 PM »

this is the last thread id expect in a forum like this... whats the point in even owning one?
What is the point of not owning one?

No chance of accidentally shooting myself when reaching for the tylenol.

If an intruder breaks in I'll karate chop her.
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« Reply #447 on: September 12, 2012, 07:21:59 PM »

Speaking of showing off guns, the Mr. Olympia contest is only a few weeks away! It's gonna be awesome!

I don't think any of these new guys will ever match Arnold.
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« Reply #448 on: September 12, 2012, 07:42:23 PM »

It does not simplify for potential intruders to prepare to kill you.

I don't know, I see here mostly people that like guns for what they are. The way they look, the way they make sound of reloading, shooting, and like shooting for the sake of shooting. That they are weapons of defence/attack is one of the last things discussed here, at least as I see it.

How quaint.  Reading what people write rather than reading what you expect to hear.

Oh really?

Indeed.  Pan Michal used the word "mostly".  In English this means a majority though not an entirety.  Used in a sentence: "They mostly come out at night.  Mostly."

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There's my home defense device.  

You forgot to write how long have you been practising and where exactly you keep it.

Ah yes, my old Mossberg.  I haven't shot that, except for trap shooting, in a while.  It's in my closet these days.  I still keep five rounds of buckshot in it.
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« Reply #449 on: September 12, 2012, 09:27:11 PM »

What is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what guns does one have and how proficiently does he uses them?

Heh... And what is the point of telling dozens of thousands of people what does one believe in and how well does he understand it?

It does not simplify for potential intruders to prepare to kill you.

Once again, your ignorance shines through like a flash of lightning on a dark night.  Seems to me, lots of people around the world are being dragged out of their house and killed for what they believe.  Not so many are messed with when the thugs know the potential victim is armed.
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