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« Reply #90 on: May 12, 2012, 10:57:13 PM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene. And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

Like I said, that's just a sample. The "gay community" is at the cutting edge of decadent perversion although the "straight" world is working hard to catch up.
You are quite up to date on this stuff. Are you a seminarian?

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« Reply #91 on: May 12, 2012, 11:45:09 PM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene. And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

Like I said, that's just a sample. The "gay community" is at the cutting edge of decadent perversion although the "straight" world is working hard to catch up.
You are quite up to date on this stuff. Are you a seminarian?
I'm even going to nominate this for post of the month.
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« Reply #92 on: May 12, 2012, 11:52:32 PM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

Oh do grow up.  Roll Eyes

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene.

Well gee, so sorry I don't keep up with news in the world of gay pornography.  Undecided

And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Um, no, it would be the apotheosis of kin selection, and having sex with your own sex has nothing to do with narcissism.
I think Lubeltri was getting to the idea of having sex with your clone, which a twin is a natural.  Assuming they are identical twins: I've never heard of them before.  And would have been quite fine if it stayed that way.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

*shrug*

You haven't given me any reason to believe this yet.

Like I said, that's just a sample.

No, it isn't. A "sample" is when you randomly collect people from a population. For this to be a sample you'd have to have collected at least several dozen homosexual individuals from the community you are interested in looking at, at random. A handful of fetishist porn stars are about as far away from being a representative sample as you can get.
depends on what you mean by sample:a sampling of gay communities across the country or a sampling of what they do.

As for representative, if this is the public face they put on as a community, well, there you are.

Not every Muslim is like Usamah bin Ladini, but until the Muslims police their own better, that's the image they're stuck with.

The "gay community" is at the cutting edge of decadent perversion although the "straight" world is working hard to catch up.

Ok.
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« Reply #93 on: May 12, 2012, 11:57:20 PM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene. And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

Like I said, that's just a sample. The "gay community" is at the cutting edge of decadent perversion although the "straight" world is working hard to catch up.
You are quite up to date on this stuff. Are you a seminarian?

Confession for everyone who laughed at this when you read it!
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« Reply #94 on: May 13, 2012, 12:18:52 AM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

Oh do grow up.  Roll Eyes

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene.

Well gee, so sorry I don't keep up with news in the world of gay pornography.  Undecided

And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Um, no, it would be the apotheosis of kin selection, and having sex with your own sex has nothing to do with narcissism.
I think Lubeltri was getting to the idea of having sex with your clone, which a twin is a natural.  Assuming they are identical twins: I've never heard of them before.  And would have been quite fine if it stayed that way.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

*shrug*

You haven't given me any reason to believe this yet.

Like I said, that's just a sample.

No, it isn't. A "sample" is when you randomly collect people from a population. For this to be a sample you'd have to have collected at least several dozen homosexual individuals from the community you are interested in looking at, at random. A handful of fetishist porn stars are about as far away from being a representative sample as you can get.
depends on what you mean by sample:a sampling of gay communities across the country or a sampling of what they do.

As for representative, if this is the public face they put on as a community, well, there you are.

Not every Muslim is like Usamah bin Ladini, but until the Muslims police their own better, that's the image they're stuck with.

So I guess that both Brother Nathaniel and Archbishop Lazar are both the public face, and representative, of Orthodoxy?  And I suppose that Quran-burning pastor in Florida is the public face, and representative, of Protestantism?  And Scott Roeder is the public face, and representative, of anti-abortion activists?
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« Reply #95 on: May 13, 2012, 09:31:46 PM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

Oh do grow up.  Roll Eyes

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene.

Well gee, so sorry I don't keep up with news in the world of gay pornography.  Undecided

And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Um, no, it would be the apotheosis of kin selection, and having sex with your own sex has nothing to do with narcissism.
I think Lubeltri was getting to the idea of having sex with your clone, which a twin is a natural.  Assuming they are identical twins: I've never heard of them before.  And would have been quite fine if it stayed that way.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

*shrug*

You haven't given me any reason to believe this yet.

Like I said, that's just a sample.

No, it isn't. A "sample" is when you randomly collect people from a population. For this to be a sample you'd have to have collected at least several dozen homosexual individuals from the community you are interested in looking at, at random. A handful of fetishist porn stars are about as far away from being a representative sample as you can get.
depends on what you mean by sample:a sampling of gay communities across the country or a sampling of what they do.

As for representative, if this is the public face they put on as a community, well, there you are.

Not every Muslim is like Usamah bin Ladini, but until the Muslims police their own better, that's the image they're stuck with.

So I guess that both Brother Nathaniel and Archbishop Lazar are both the public face, and representative, of Orthodoxy?  And I suppose that Quran-burning pastor in Florida is the public face, and representative, of Protestantism?  And Scott Roeder is the public face, and representative, of anti-abortion activists?

Do I need to repeat my point? These types of things I cited are not disavowed by most gays. I'm not saying "twincest" is common among gays, I'm saying that identical twins who have sex with each other are mainstream celebrities in the "gay community". The two San Francisco public gay sex exhibitions are 2 of the 3 most popular spectator events in all of California, with hundreds of thousands of spectators, perhaps even a million for SF Pride. Monogamy is not normative in long-term gay relationships, and few same-sex marriages take place in places where it is legal. I could cite more examples.

 This stuff is mainstream. The comparison to Osama bin Laden is silly, since he wasn't mainstream in the Muslim world.

The idea that homosexual activists want to ape bourgeois practices like monogamous marriage and kids and all that is a political strategy, not a reality. Up until the 1990s, the "LGBT" movement wanted nothing to do with such "heteronormative" stuff, focusing instead on a general sexual "liberation".  "Gay culture" is as soaked in sex as a Christmas pudding is soaked in brandy---particularly gay male culture. Not that the wider culture isn't trying its hardest to catch up.

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I think Lubeltri was getting to the idea of having sex with your clone, which a twin is a natural.  Assuming they are identical twins: I've never heard of them before.  And would have been quite fine if it stayed that way.

Yes, they're identical. Good thing you aren't a regular reader of Salon. They did a piece on this last year---the one photo they showed of the twins was more than enough for me.

 I wouldn't risk a Google image search, even with the strictest safesearch filter.
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« Reply #98 on: May 13, 2012, 10:04:08 PM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

Oh do grow up.  Roll Eyes

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene.

Well gee, so sorry I don't keep up with news in the world of gay pornography.  Undecided

And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Um, no, it would be the apotheosis of kin selection, and having sex with your own sex has nothing to do with narcissism.
I think Lubeltri was getting to the idea of having sex with your clone, which a twin is a natural.  Assuming they are identical twins: I've never heard of them before.  And would have been quite fine if it stayed that way.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

*shrug*

You haven't given me any reason to believe this yet.

Like I said, that's just a sample.

No, it isn't. A "sample" is when you randomly collect people from a population. For this to be a sample you'd have to have collected at least several dozen homosexual individuals from the community you are interested in looking at, at random. A handful of fetishist porn stars are about as far away from being a representative sample as you can get.
depends on what you mean by sample:a sampling of gay communities across the country or a sampling of what they do.

As for representative, if this is the public face they put on as a community, well, there you are.

Not every Muslim is like Usamah bin Ladini, but until the Muslims police their own better, that's the image they're stuck with.

So I guess that both Brother Nathaniel and Archbishop Lazar are both the public face, and representative, of Orthodoxy?  And I suppose that Quran-burning pastor in Florida is the public face, and representative, of Protestantism?  And Scott Roeder is the public face, and representative, of anti-abortion activists?
Who, who, (see below) and who?

Ptr. (?) Terry Jones.  Hard to tell.  The Protestants in Germany ejected him, and Great Britain (officially Protestant) banned him from entry.  But then, who speaks for Protestantism, where every man is his supreme pontiff.
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« Reply #99 on: May 15, 2012, 04:27:21 AM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

Oh do grow up.  Roll Eyes

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene.

Well gee, so sorry I don't keep up with news in the world of gay pornography.  Undecided

And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Um, no, it would be the apotheosis of kin selection, and having sex with your own sex has nothing to do with narcissism.
I think Lubeltri was getting to the idea of having sex with your clone, which a twin is a natural.  Assuming they are identical twins: I've never heard of them before.  And would have been quite fine if it stayed that way.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

*shrug*

You haven't given me any reason to believe this yet.

Like I said, that's just a sample.

No, it isn't. A "sample" is when you randomly collect people from a population. For this to be a sample you'd have to have collected at least several dozen homosexual individuals from the community you are interested in looking at, at random. A handful of fetishist porn stars are about as far away from being a representative sample as you can get.
depends on what you mean by sample:a sampling of gay communities across the country or a sampling of what they do.

As for representative, if this is the public face they put on as a community, well, there you are.

Not every Muslim is like Usamah bin Ladini, but until the Muslims police their own better, that's the image they're stuck with.

So I guess that both Brother Nathaniel and Archbishop Lazar are both the public face, and representative, of Orthodoxy?  And I suppose that Quran-burning pastor in Florida is the public face, and representative, of Protestantism?  And Scott Roeder is the public face, and representative, of anti-abortion activists?
Who, who, (see below) and who?

Ptr. (?) Terry Jones.  Hard to tell.  The Protestants in Germany ejected him, and Great Britain (officially Protestant) banned him from entry.  But then, who speaks for Protestantism, where every man is his supreme pontiff.

In Sunni Islam, there are, like in Protestantism, no officials with any authority, and so unless Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell represent Protestantism, bin Laden does not represent Sunni Islam.
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« Reply #100 on: May 15, 2012, 08:21:58 AM »

Of course he missed my point. Reading comprehension?

Oh do grow up.  Roll Eyes

If you noticed the phrases I bolded, I was pointing out that the Peters twins (who are not the only "twincest" stars; there are even some triplet porn stars) are very popular celebrities in the "gay community", enough to double an already very popular porn site's traffic and to be paraded about in South Florida's gay scene.

Well gee, so sorry I don't keep up with news in the world of gay pornography.  Undecided

And why wouldn't they be popular? Having sex with yourself is the apotheosis of narcissism, even more than having sex with a member your own sex.

Um, no, it would be the apotheosis of kin selection, and having sex with your own sex has nothing to do with narcissism.
I think Lubeltri was getting to the idea of having sex with your clone, which a twin is a natural.  Assuming they are identical twins: I've never heard of them before.  And would have been quite fine if it stayed that way.

Is it not strange to you that 2 of the 3 biggest spectator events in California are public exhibitions of gay sex in all its fetish varieties?

*shrug*

You haven't given me any reason to believe this yet.

Like I said, that's just a sample.

No, it isn't. A "sample" is when you randomly collect people from a population. For this to be a sample you'd have to have collected at least several dozen homosexual individuals from the community you are interested in looking at, at random. A handful of fetishist porn stars are about as far away from being a representative sample as you can get.
depends on what you mean by sample:a sampling of gay communities across the country or a sampling of what they do.

As for representative, if this is the public face they put on as a community, well, there you are.

Not every Muslim is like Usamah bin Ladini, but until the Muslims police their own better, that's the image they're stuck with.

So I guess that both Brother Nathaniel and Archbishop Lazar are both the public face, and representative, of Orthodoxy?  And I suppose that Quran-burning pastor in Florida is the public face, and representative, of Protestantism?  And Scott Roeder is the public face, and representative, of anti-abortion activists?
Who, who, (see below) and who?

Ptr. (?) Terry Jones.  Hard to tell.  The Protestants in Germany ejected him, and Great Britain (officially Protestant) banned him from entry.  But then, who speaks for Protestantism, where every man is his supreme pontiff.

In Sunni Islam, there are, like in Protestantism, no officials with any authority, and so unless Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell represent Protestantism, bin Laden does not represent Sunni Islam.
Not exactly.  The Sunni's still issue ijazahs (like a law decree from an accredited law school:the ulama', the clerics of Islam, are actually lawyers, not priests.  Like the rabbis in Judaism), which have to be recognized by the respective madhdhabs. Very few, if any, repudiated Bin Laden.  I know lots of Protestants who repudiate Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.  Although I'm quite fine with Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell representing Protestantism, so I don't know your problem with that.
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« Reply #101 on: May 15, 2012, 10:16:11 AM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.
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« Reply #102 on: May 15, 2012, 10:19:23 AM »

BTW, I have known those who have come out of the "gay life style" descirbe the gay world as "pornographic".
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« Reply #103 on: May 15, 2012, 10:26:23 AM »

Looks like the gayest city in the USA is now Washington, DC.

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« Reply #104 on: May 15, 2012, 12:38:48 PM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.
You seem to give an unhealthy amount of thought to gay "depravity". Is it the manualist tradition of the Latin Church that's to blame, which, I hear, used to be rather explicit?
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« Reply #105 on: May 15, 2012, 12:58:54 PM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.
You seem to give an unhealthy amount of thought to gay "depravity". Is it the manualist tradition of the Latin Church that's to blame, which, I hear, used to be rather explicit?
No, just observation of the reality. I suggest you take a walk through the Castro district in SF or Boys town in Chicago. You will that my points are clearly justified. You may not like where the evidence leads, but it is what it is.
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« Reply #106 on: May 15, 2012, 01:00:46 PM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.
You seem to give an unhealthy amount of thought to gay "depravity". Is it the manualist tradition of the Latin Church that's to blame, which, I hear, used to be rather explicit?
No, just observation of the reality. I suggest you take a walk through the Castro district in SF or Boys town in Chicago. You will that my points are clearly justified. You may not like where the evidence leads, but it is what it is.
Well I live in boystown. What about it?
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« Reply #107 on: May 15, 2012, 01:01:52 PM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.
You seem to give an unhealthy amount of thought to gay "depravity". Is it the manualist tradition of the Latin Church that's to blame, which, I hear, used to be rather explicit?
No, just observation of the reality. I suggest you take a walk through the Castro district in SF or Boys town in Chicago. You will that my points are clearly justified. You may not like where the evidence leads, but it is what it is.
Well I live in boystown. What about it?
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There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.
You seem to give an unhealthy amount of thought to gay "depravity". Is it the manualist tradition of the Latin Church that's to blame, which, I hear, used to be rather explicit?
No, just observation of the reality. I suggest you take a walk through the Castro district in SF or Boys town in Chicago. You will that my points are clearly justified. You may not like where the evidence leads, but it is what it is.
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There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.
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« Reply #110 on: May 15, 2012, 09:12:19 PM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.
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« Reply #111 on: May 15, 2012, 11:05:14 PM »

Looks like the gayest city in the USA is now Washington, DC.




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Obama looks stately and regal even with that ostentatious color wheel above his head. That's what I call grace (or is it just, dare I say, fabulous?)
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There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.

But Papist has clearly suggested all through this thread that the vast majority of gay people are perverse sexual deviants; I think he is quite incorrect.  In fact, the gay people I know are no more "hypersexualised" than the straight people I know.  The only sense in which they belong to a "gay subculture" is that they are attracted to men, instead of to women, whereas the straight men I know are attracted to women, instead of men.  I think that most people in this thread are way overplaying the idea of some commonality between homosexuals, aside from that which is required to be homosexual.
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« Reply #114 on: May 16, 2012, 12:24:26 AM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.

But Papist has clearly suggested all through this thread that the vast majority of gay people are perverse sexual deviants; I think he is quite incorrect.  In fact, the gay people I know are no more "hypersexualised" than the straight people I know.  The only sense in which they belong to a "gay subculture" is that they are attracted to men, instead of to women, whereas the straight men I know are attracted to women, instead of men.  I think that most people in this thread are way overplaying the idea of some commonality between homosexuals, aside from that which is required to be homosexual.


Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.


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« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2012, 12:28:12 AM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.

But Papist has clearly suggested all through this thread that the vast majority of gay people are perverse sexual deviants; I think he is quite incorrect.  In fact, the gay people I know are no more "hypersexualised" than the straight people I know.  The only sense in which they belong to a "gay subculture" is that they are attracted to men, instead of to women, whereas the straight men I know are attracted to women, instead of men.  I think that most people in this thread are way overplaying the idea of some commonality between homosexuals, aside from that which is required to be homosexual.

Yes, to be fair, I was responding to the quoted words somewhat out of their context.
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There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.

But Papist has clearly suggested all through this thread that the vast majority of gay people are perverse sexual deviants; I think he is quite incorrect.  In fact, the gay people I know are no more "hypersexualised" than the straight people I know.  The only sense in which they belong to a "gay subculture" is that they are attracted to men, instead of to women, whereas the straight men I know are attracted to women, instead of men.  I think that most people in this thread are way overplaying the idea of some commonality between homosexuals, aside from that which is required to be homosexual.


Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.


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There is a very fun one in Berlin, afaik.
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Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.

Generally there isn't a need for "heterosexual pride" parades in America, England, etc., considering that heterosexuals weren't imprisoned, beat up, castrated, etc. for their sexual orientation as little as a generation or two ago. But if you want to see heterosexuals putting on displays of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity (it's only semi-public, because they'd be arrested otherwise, because they go much further, and do things that would be considered assault, even though all participants participate by choice), I would be more than happy to show you an annual event here in PA like that.
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« Reply #118 on: May 16, 2012, 12:57:42 AM »

Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.

Generally there isn't a need for "heterosexual pride" parades in America, England, etc., considering that heterosexuals weren't imprisoned, beat up, castrated, etc. for their sexual orientation as little as a generation or two ago. But if you want to see heterosexuals putting on displays of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity (it's only semi-public, because they'd be arrested otherwise, because they go much further, and do things that would be considered assault, even though all participants participate by choice), I would be more than happy to show you an annual event here in PA like that.


Sexual depravity is everywhere, and homosesxuals certainly do not have a monopoly on it. However, this concerted effort by the homosexual community to portray themselves victims of genocidal discrimination equal to what African Americans, Native Americans, and Jews have endured is something that I will never buy into. Heterosexuals have been victims of hatred and abuse every bit as much as heterosexuals have, and for reasons that have nothing to do with a personal lifestyle choice.


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Does your "Mystery and Meaning"  book explain  the mystery and meaning of what a "personal lifestyle choice" is? I wanna be sure before I order it.
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Ok, well let's start with this then. Would you agree that homosexuality used to be an offense punishable by death? Has heterosexuality ever had that problem?  Also, would you agree that, even in recent centuries in the west (up through the 20th century) homosexuality was something you could go to jail for? Has heterosexuality ever had that issue? (If you aren't sure, consider the case of Turing as a start).
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Does your "Mystery and Meaning"  book explain  the mystery and meaning of what a "personal lifestyle choice" is? I wanna be sure before I order it.


I don't really discuss homosexuality. I have bigger fish to fry. I accept the teachings of the Church about sexuality, and my own sinful lusts are enough for me to focus on. However, I will chime in with my opinion on threads like this, FWIW. Just to try to keep things honest and balanced.

We can debate all day long about whether or not homosexuality is a choice. I really don't know. But I will call BS on the efforts to force us to believe that it is not a choice, and that heterosexual proclivity is no more volitional than the color of one's skin which with they are born.


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« Reply #122 on: May 16, 2012, 01:21:48 AM »

Ok, well let's start with this then. Would you agree that homosexuality used to be an offense punishable by death? Has heterosexuality ever had that problem?  Also, would you agree that, even in recent centuries in the west (up through the 20th century) homosexuality was something you could go to jail for? Has heterosexuality ever had that issue? (If you aren't sure, consider the case of Turing as a start).


I'm sure you can educate me about the history of homosexual persecution. But to answer your question, yes, many heterosexuals have been executed for adultery, sexually deviant behavior, etc.


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« Reply #123 on: May 16, 2012, 01:25:45 AM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.

But Papist has clearly suggested all through this thread that the vast majority of gay people are perverse sexual deviants; I think he is quite incorrect.  In fact, the gay people I know are no more "hypersexualised" than the straight people I know.  The only sense in which they belong to a "gay subculture" is that they are attracted to men, instead of to women, whereas the straight men I know are attracted to women, instead of men.  I think that most people in this thread are way overplaying the idea of some commonality between homosexuals, aside from that which is required to be homosexual.


Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.


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How about I show you some heterosexual persons I know who are quite depraved, instead?  How about I show you any number of clubs for swingers, straight swingers?  Will that suffice you?
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« Reply #124 on: May 16, 2012, 08:55:32 AM »

Obama looks stately and regal even with that ostentatious color wheel above his head. That's what I call grace (or is it just, dare I say, fabulous?)
That's what we call spin.
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« Reply #125 on: May 16, 2012, 08:56:36 AM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.

But Papist has clearly suggested all through this thread that the vast majority of gay people are perverse sexual deviants; I think he is quite incorrect.  In fact, the gay people I know are no more "hypersexualised" than the straight people I know.  The only sense in which they belong to a "gay subculture" is that they are attracted to men, instead of to women, whereas the straight men I know are attracted to women, instead of men.  I think that most people in this thread are way overplaying the idea of some commonality between homosexuals, aside from that which is required to be homosexual.


Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.


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« Reply #126 on: May 16, 2012, 08:58:01 AM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.

But Papist has clearly suggested all through this thread that the vast majority of gay people are perverse sexual deviants; I think he is quite incorrect.  In fact, the gay people I know are no more "hypersexualised" than the straight people I know.  The only sense in which they belong to a "gay subculture" is that they are attracted to men, instead of to women, whereas the straight men I know are attracted to women, instead of men.  I think that most people in this thread are way overplaying the idea of some commonality between homosexuals, aside from that which is required to be homosexual.


Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.


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There is a very fun one in Berlin, afaik.
As far as you know?  You happen to know any details.

Missed that when I was there.  Ich bin Berliner.
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« Reply #127 on: May 16, 2012, 08:59:16 AM »

Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.

Generally there isn't a need for "heterosexual pride" parades in America, England, etc., considering that heterosexuals weren't imprisoned, beat up, castrated, etc. for their sexual orientation as little as a generation or two ago. But if you want to see heterosexuals putting on displays of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity (it's only semi-public, because they'd be arrested otherwise, because they go much further, and do things that would be considered assault, even though all participants participate by choice), I would be more than happy to show you an annual event here in PA like that.
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« Reply #128 on: May 16, 2012, 09:01:21 AM »

Ok, well let's start with this then. Would you agree that homosexuality used to be an offense punishable by death? Has heterosexuality ever had that problem?  Also, would you agree that, even in recent centuries in the west (up through the 20th century) homosexuality was something you could go to jail for? Has heterosexuality ever had that issue? (If you aren't sure, consider the case of Turing as a start).
ever hear of genocide?
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« Reply #129 on: May 16, 2012, 09:47:15 AM »

Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.

Generally there isn't a need for "heterosexual pride" parades in America, England, etc., considering that heterosexuals weren't imprisoned, beat up, castrated, etc. for their sexual orientation as little as a generation or two ago. But if you want to see heterosexuals putting on displays of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity (it's only semi-public, because they'd be arrested otherwise, because they go much further, and do things that would be considered assault, even though all participants participate by choice), I would be more than happy to show you an annual event here in PA like that.


Sexual depravity is everywhere, and homosesxuals certainly do not have a monopoly on it. However, this concerted effort by the homosexual community to portray themselves victims of genocidal discrimination equal to what African Americans, Native Americans, and Jews have endured is something that I will never buy into. Heterosexuals have been victims of hatred and abuse every bit as much as heterosexuals have, and for reasons that have nothing to do with a personal lifestyle choice.


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What is this "homosexual community" that can engage in a "concerted effort" to do anything?  When were the elections they held for their leaders, or do they have a King and Queen who pass on their title to an adopted child?  How do gays join?  Do they receive a membership card when they come out, or do they have to apply? 

Seriously though, there is no more a "homosexual community" than there is a "heterosexual community."
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« Reply #130 on: May 16, 2012, 09:47:15 AM »

Does your "Mystery and Meaning"  book explain  the mystery and meaning of what a "personal lifestyle choice" is? I wanna be sure before I order it.


I don't really discuss homosexuality. I have bigger fish to fry. I accept the teachings of the Church about sexuality, and my own sinful lusts are enough for me to focus on. However, I will chime in with my opinion on threads like this, FWIW. Just to try to keep things honest and balanced.

We can debate all day long about whether or not homosexuality is a choice. I really don't know. But I will call BS on the efforts to force us to believe that it is not a choice, and that heterosexual proclivity is no more volitional than the color of one's skin which with they are born.


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« Reply #131 on: May 16, 2012, 10:01:31 AM »

There is a very large "gay pride" parade in Albuquerque every year. Let me tell you, they are not out parading gay doctors, lawyers, parents, or responsible citizens. They parade nearly naked men, the leather community, etc. The gay community is soaked in sexuality. While one might argue that straight men and women are increasingly sexualizing life (which is true), they do not reach the degree of gay men. For gay men, everything is sexualized and everything is an opportunity for eroticisms of the most depraved nature.

And Catholics are all Pope worshipers...ex-Catholics will testify to this.

I think it's clear as day that the "gay subculture" is hypersexualised and certainly not straight-laced (in my opinion, it is also rather vacuous).

To observe such is not to say anything about particular homosexuals, "practising" or otherwise.
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« Reply #133 on: May 16, 2012, 10:06:52 AM »

Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.

Generally there isn't a need for "heterosexual pride" parades in America, England, etc., considering that heterosexuals weren't imprisoned, beat up, castrated, etc. for their sexual orientation as little as a generation or two ago. But if you want to see heterosexuals putting on displays of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity (it's only semi-public, because they'd be arrested otherwise, because they go much further, and do things that would be considered assault, even though all participants participate by choice), I would be more than happy to show you an annual event here in PA like that.


Sexual depravity is everywhere, and homosesxuals certainly do not have a monopoly on it. However, this concerted effort by the homosexual community to portray themselves victims of genocidal discrimination equal to what African Americans, Native Americans, and Jews have endured is something that I will never buy into. Heterosexuals have been victims of hatred and abuse every bit as much as heterosexuals have, and for reasons that have nothing to do with a personal lifestyle choice.


Selam

What is this "homosexual community" that can engage in a "concerted effort" to do anything?  When were the elections they held for their leaders, or do they have a King and Queen who pass on their title to an adopted child?  How do gays join?  Do they receive a membership card when they come out, or do they have to apply? 

Seriously though, there is no more a "homosexual community" than there is a "heterosexual community."
There is a heterosexual community.  We call it normal society.  That is why disruption of it, say, as in no fault divorce, affects the whole.

As for the homosexual community, some branches:
http://www.nambla.org/
http://www.facebook.com/gaypridecommunity
http://www.democrats.org/issues/civil_rights
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« Reply #134 on: May 16, 2012, 10:08:53 AM »

Show me a "heterosexual pride" parade that rivals the public display of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity that is rampant in the typical "gay pride" parade.

Generally there isn't a need for "heterosexual pride" parades in America, England, etc., considering that heterosexuals weren't imprisoned, beat up, castrated, etc. for their sexual orientation as little as a generation or two ago. But if you want to see heterosexuals putting on displays of depravity, nudity, and open sexual activity (it's only semi-public, because they'd be arrested otherwise, because they go much further, and do things that would be considered assault, even though all participants participate by choice), I would be more than happy to show you an annual event here in PA like that.


Sexual depravity is everywhere, and homosesxuals certainly do not have a monopoly on it. However, this concerted effort by the homosexual community to portray themselves victims of genocidal discrimination equal to what African Americans, Native Americans, and Jews have endured is something that I will never buy into. Heterosexuals have been victims of hatred and abuse every bit as much as heterosexuals have, and for reasons that have nothing to do with a personal lifestyle choice.


Selam

What is this "homosexual community" that can engage in a "concerted effort" to do anything?  When were the elections they held for their leaders, or do they have a King and Queen who pass on their title to an adopted child?  How do gays join?  Do they receive a membership card when they come out, or do they have to apply? 

Seriously though, there is no more a "homosexual community" than there is a "heterosexual community."
There is a heterosexual community.  We call it normal society.  That is why disruption of it, say, as in no fault divorce, affects the whole.

As for the homosexual community, some branches:
http://www.nambla.org/
http://www.facebook.com/gaypridecommunity
http://www.democrats.org/issues/civil_rights
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