Topic: Magnificat

[henrikhankhagnell]

When do Orthodoxes chant Magnificat?
and are there any recording of this canticle in Liturgical languages (other than Latin)

[PeterTheAleut]

When do Orthodoxes chant Magnificat?

During Matins between Odes 8 & 9 of the Canon

[NicholasMyra]

Russian Magnificat. Sergei Tolstokulakov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmHocZDI6w

from matins service in Bigorski monastery in Macedonia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJb6VESUSTs



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[henrikhankhagnell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmHocZDI6w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJb6VESUSTs

i like the men with long hair
did the macedonian monks sing in koine greek?

During Matins between Odes 8 & 9 of the Canon

why during matins and not during vespers?
Roman Catholic version from vespers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pqxZf4BkA4

[Iconodule]

I believe the Macedonians speak Bulgarian and so their liturgy would be in Church Slavonic

[biro]

I've always wondered why it is between Odes 8 & 9, and not after Ode 9. Does anyone know?

Thanks. 

[PeterTheAleut]

I've always wondered why it is between Odes 8 & 9, and not after Ode 9. Does anyone know?

Thanks. 

Why would it be after Ode 9? Do you think it fits better there?

[biro]

I don't know, I just thought it was so close to the end, why not put it last... oh well. Thanks. 

[PeterTheAleut]

I don't know, I just thought it was so close to the end, why not put it last... oh well. Thanks. 

Actually, I think the Magnificat is considered a part of Ode 9. We start with the biblical text of Mary's hymn, then proceed to the Church's meditation on that hymn.

[Deacon Lance]

I've always wondered why it is between Odes 8 & 9, and not after Ode 9. Does anyone know?

Thanks. 

Because originally the Canons included the Canticles.  The Canticle was sung first and the Irmos and Troparia followed.  Later the Cantilces themselves were dropped but the Irmoi and Troparia remained except for the Canticle of the Theotokos.

[Νεκτάριος]

I believe the Macedonians speak Bulgarian and so their liturgy would be in Church Slavonic

Macedonians speak <gasp> Macedonian. 

Ethnic group X must speak language Y (due to refusing to recognize language X due to petty nationalistic squabble) and therefore their liturgy must be in language Z (which is neither X nor Y).  Orthodox logic FTW! 

[biro]

Thanks, Peter and Deacon Lance.