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« on: January 16, 2012, 01:21:21 AM »

When do Orthodoxes chant Magnificat?
and are there any recording of this canticle in Liturgical languages (other than Latin)
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 01:52:16 AM »

When do Orthodoxes chant Magnificat?
During Matins between Odes 8 & 9 of the Canon
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 02:06:31 AM »

Russian Magnificat. Sergei Tolstokulakov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmHocZDI6w

from matins service in Bigorski monastery in Macedonia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJb6VESUSTs



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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 09:01:12 AM »

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did the macedonian monks sing in koine greek?
During Matins between Odes 8 & 9 of the Canon
why during matins and not during vespers?
Roman Catholic version from vespers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pqxZf4BkA4
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 10:20:47 AM »

I believe the Macedonians speak Bulgarian and so their liturgy would be in Church Slavonic
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 10:27:49 AM »

I've always wondered why it is between Odes 8 & 9, and not after Ode 9. Does anyone know?

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 10:41:48 AM »

I've always wondered why it is between Odes 8 & 9, and not after Ode 9. Does anyone know?

Thanks.  Smiley
Why would it be after Ode 9? Do you think it fits better there?
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 11:23:45 AM »

I don't know, I just thought it was so close to the end, why not put it last... oh well. Thanks.  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 01:07:36 PM »

I don't know, I just thought it was so close to the end, why not put it last... oh well. Thanks.  Smiley
Actually, I think the Magnificat is considered a part of Ode 9. We start with the biblical text of Mary's hymn, then proceed to the Church's meditation on that hymn.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 01:53:00 PM »

I've always wondered why it is between Odes 8 & 9, and not after Ode 9. Does anyone know?

Thanks.  Smiley

Because originally the Canons included the Canticles.  The Canticle was sung first and the Irmos and Troparia followed.  Later the Cantilces themselves were dropped but the Irmoi and Troparia remained except for the Canticle of the Theotokos.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2012, 06:54:03 AM »

I believe the Macedonians speak Bulgarian and so their liturgy would be in Church Slavonic

Macedonians speak <gasp> Macedonian. 

Ethnic group X must speak language Y (due to refusing to recognize language X due to petty nationalistic squabble) and therefore their liturgy must be in language Z (which is neither X nor Y).  Orthodox logic FTW! 
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2012, 09:19:42 AM »

Thanks, Peter and Deacon Lance.  Smiley
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