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« on: January 06, 2012, 02:42:48 PM »
Just read on Google news that Pope Benedict has named 20 new Cardinals raising the college of Cardinals to 125. I think this bodes well for the RC The Current Pontiff is rather conservative and with all the Cardinals he has appointed I dont think the RC is going to have to worry about any loonyness in the near future. Hopefully his successor will continue the reform of the reform of the Mass.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 02:49:01 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 04:25:46 PM »
Quote from: Vlad on January 06, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
Hopefully his successor will continue the reform of the reform of the Mass.
Maybe the next pope will be gutsy enough to just go back to the pre-Vatican II liturgy, but allow for its celebration in the vernacular.  Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 05:08:53 PM »
Quote from: Apotheoun on January 06, 2012, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: Vlad on January 06, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
Hopefully his successor will continue the reform of the reform of the Mass.
Maybe the next pope will be gutsy enough to just go back to the pre-Vatican II liturgy, but allow for its celebration in the vernacular.  Cheesy

Exactly. Getting rid of the Novus Ordo and the ICEL would be good steps to take toward unifying the Latin Catholic Church because nothing good has come out of the ICEL.

If a devout and respectful translation of the Tridentine Mass were done into English and other languages, while allowing Latin chant, this might restore sanity.

BTW: Who are the 20 new Cardinal appointees?
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 05:56:29 PM »
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BTW: Who are the 20 new Cardinal appointees?

The 18 new cardinals under 80 and eligible to vote are:

Santos Abril y Castello, (Spanish), Archbishop/Archpriest of the Basilica of St. Mary Major

George Alencherry, (Indian), Major Archbishop of the Syro-Malabar Catholic Church

Giuseppe Bertello, (Italian), Archbishop/President of the Government of the Vatican City State

Giuseppe Bettori, (Italian), Archbishop of Florence

Joao Braz de Aviz, (Brazil), Archbishop/Prefect of the Congregation for Religious

Domenico Calcagno, (Italian), Archbishop/President of the Apostolic Patrimony of the Holy See

Francesco Coccopalmerio, (Italian), Archbishop/President of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts

Thomas Collins, (Canadian), Archbishop of Toronto

Timothy Dolan, (United States) Archbishop of New York

Dominik Duka, (Czech), Archbishop of Prague

Wim Eijk, (Dutch), Archbishop of Utrecht

Fernando Filoni, (Italian), Archbishop/Prefect of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples

Antonio Maria Veglio, (Italian), Archbishop/President of the Pontifical Council for Migrants and Refugees

Manuel Monteiro de Castro, (Portuguese), Archbishop/Major Penitentiary of the Apostolic Penitentiary

Edwin O'Brien, (United States), Archbishop/Grand Master of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre

John Tong Hon, (Chinese), Bishop of Hong Kong

Giuseppe Versaldi, (Italian), Archbishop/President of the Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy See

Rainer Maria Woelki, (German), Archbishop of Berlin

The 4 new cardinals over 80 and ineligible to vote are:

Lucian Muresan (Romania), Major Archbishop of Romanian Greek Catholic Church

Julien Ries, (Belgian), a monsignor and professor

Karl Becker (German), a priest and professor

Prosper Grech, (Maltese), a priest and professor
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 06:27:45 PM »
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I dont know what is funny. It is obvious to me that no Pope is going to bring back the real Mass so for my family still stuck in the Papal circus this is better than nothing.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 07:49:48 PM »
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Quote from: Vlad on January 06, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
Hopefully his successor will continue the reform of the reform of the Mass.
Maybe the next pope will be gutsy enough to just go back to the pre-Vatican II liturgy, but allow for its celebration in the vernacular.  Cheesy

I should hope so. That's what I always wanted.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 11:17:20 PM »
Quote from: Apotheoun on January 06, 2012, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: Vlad on January 06, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
Hopefully his successor will continue the reform of the reform of the Mass.
Maybe the next pope will be gutsy enough to just go back to the pre-Vatican II liturgy, but allow for its celebration in the vernacular.  Cheesy

Never happen the whole RC Church is so infected with modernism from the second vatican council that they see the old Mass as dangerous.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2012, 04:44:56 AM »
Cool that Dolan is becoming a cardinal.

I was lucky enough to see him say mass in NYC at St. Patricks. Wish I could have spoken with him.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2012, 11:38:44 PM »
Quote from: Vlad on January 06, 2012, 06:27:45 PM

I dont know what is funny. It is obvious to me that no Pope is going to bring back the real Mass so for my family still stuck in the Papal circus this is better than nothing.

A former sede/SSPXer, I sense!
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2012, 11:41:03 PM »
Quote from: neon_knights on January 08, 2012, 04:44:56 AM
Cool that Dolan is becoming a cardinal.

I was lucky enough to see him say mass in NYC at St. Patricks. Wish I could have spoken with him.

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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2012, 11:44:19 PM »
going back to the TLR isn't going to help anyone unless they translate it into english.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2012, 11:54:38 PM »
Quote from: Ortho_cat on January 08, 2012, 11:44:19 PM
going back to the TLR isn't going to help anyone unless they translate it into english.

I have a Latin-English Missal...
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2012, 04:40:08 PM »
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The Vatican has acknowledged that it used Wikipedia to produce biographies of 22 new cardinals that were sent out to journalists.

The biographies were copied from the Italian version of the user-edited online encyclopedia, word for word in some cases, and without attribution.

One clue was that many new cardinals were described as being "Catholic".
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A Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, said his staff had no advance notice of the names of the new cardinals and had been in a hurry.

Official biographies are now being put up on the website of the Holy See.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2012, 04:40:56 PM »
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I have a Latin-English Missal...

Those are nice!  Smiley
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