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« on: September 12, 2004, 04:45:54 PM »

I post this to show an apparent case of propoganda or hiding things in action (but I don't want this to go towards American political discussion which is banned on this forum).

The US says this is not a nuclear blast and one official even says "it may be a forest fire."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/09/12/nkorea.blast/index.html

Now take a look at the picture of the blast as featured in the Slovak media:

http://spravy.pravda.sk/ (front page today).

DOES THAT LOOK LIKE THE RESULT OF A FOREST FIRE?!

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2004, 08:30:15 PM »

Anastasios,

What did the Slovak paper say about this? Also, was the U.S. government aware that there were actual pictures of this blast out there?

I'll say one thing, I'm just glad that China, North Korea, et al. speak loudly but are afraid to use their stick. They could very easily cause great havoc if they wanted. Supposing they invaded--just for starters--Tawain and South Korea, warning that if the west intervened they'd drop some nukes (or maybe China could threaten to hit U.S. cities with ICBM's again--though this time the threat would be more legitimate). In such a scenario, would we make a move, knowing that we would be costing millions their lives?
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2004, 10:19:02 PM »

Anastasios, you're right to worry about connections between this and Iraq.  Of course, we're not going to do ANYthing about these guys...come on...forest fire?!

Un-friggin'-believable.  :cwm23:
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2004, 10:24:50 PM »

Well, depending on atmospheric conditions and such, it *could* be from a forest fire.  I don't know either way for sure, (not being in Korea nor an eye witness).  But being from Montana where forest fires are fairly common (The book "Young Men and Fire" was about a fire in Mann Gulch north of Helena, Montana fyi) I had a memory mark about smoke clouds.  

Here are a couple of pictures I found on-line as well as an essay by a man about forest fires that mentions mushroom clouds:

Photo of cloud in British Columbia:
http://www.recorder.ca/cp/national/030805/n080503A.html

Pictures from fire in Washington State (look near the  bottom left):
http://www.whitewolfgallery.bigstep.com/generic30.html

Essay:
http://www.ltrr.arizona.edu/~tswetnam/Cerrofireessay5.htm

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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2004, 07:44:37 PM »

You've all got it wrong.  


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The large mushroom cloud covering two miles was caused by a controlled fire, sources say.  

According to No Wey Eh of the North Korean Recreational and Agricultural Products, a regional leader was preparing a large banquet for the benefit of North Korea's President, Kim Jung Il.  "We were trying to brew President Il's favorite beer, but, since we have an overabundance of grain this year, we decided to brew a barley wine instead."

Unfortunately, they found their OG to be too low to classify as a true barley wine, and didn't want to disappoint their leader.  "He is a god to us.  Would you give your god beer that does not meet BJCP classification requirements?"  To boil the wort down, the heat required was tremendous.  "We just meant to make a big fire, not cause an international uproar."

Both President Bush and Senator Kerry expressed alarm at not being invited to the party.  "The President is serious about talks with North Korea.  This just shows that they don't want to talk."

Senator Kerry's camp stated that the lack of invitation proved that President Bush had shunned the rest of the world.  "This president has admitted that he stopped drinking.  Well, Mr. President, I drink and I'm no party pooper.  Why don't you go back to Texas and let me deal with the world's problems."

No Wey Eh stated that President Bush wasn't invited because they were afraid he may say something.  Senator Kerry wasn't invited because President Il has a great fear of Mrs. Kerry.

Then came the follow up . . .

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We are sadly reporting that No Wey Eh of the North Korean Recreational and Agricultural Products has been imprisoned for insinuating the production of grain has been below "abundance" levels in previous years.
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