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« on: December 28, 2011, 02:43:30 PM »

I thought Vespers was at all Orthodox Churches here in Athens, Greece.

I thought I would go and bite the bullet and watch my first Orthodox service, after getting my nerves out of the way.

It is nerve racking walking in to a strange church, and not speaking the language properly.

When I went to Saint John Gargarettas Orthodox Church, Athens at 4:50pm the doors was open so I duly walked in and was greeted with a smile and καλησπέρα. no problem so far!

the church had no lights on apart from candles, but i took a seat anyway, there was 2 people at the front that started to chant, the priest opened 2 doors to the inner sanctuary think it was. said a few words, then within 15 minutes the service was over.

What was it I went to? Surly vespers is not only 15 minutes long!

Confused me anyhow.
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 02:48:52 PM »

Are you sure you arrived at the beginning?  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 02:51:04 PM »

Vespers can be served in half an hour.

Nothing will surprise me after I heard about 45 min Liturgy.
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 02:54:18 PM »

Are you sure you arrived at the beginning?  Huh

It said something at 5μμ, I will check tomorrow in daylight, but I did think vespers started at 5pm in all Orthodox churches here, maybe I am wrong!  Sad
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2011, 02:55:28 PM »

Awww shucks.  Wink Well, I hope you try again.
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2011, 02:55:44 PM »

Vespers can be served in half an hour.

Nothing will surprise me after I heard about 45 min Liturgy.

Surly that was Catholic?
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2011, 02:58:13 PM »

Awww shucks.  Wink Well, I hope you try again.

I will try again tomorrow, maybe I will go to the Cathedral in Plaka on my way to Omonia, there might be someone that speaks a little English.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 04:06:41 PM »

that's 15 mins longer than the vespers service i went to at a greek orthodox church in london.
no-one else turned up (including the priest!) although the church was open.

i think not all advertised times are correct, so for the best bet call someone to check or go to a sunday morning service (i expect, though u don't want to miss Holy Communion in yr church so i understand why u would go on saturday).
i went to a lovely greek orthodox service in the south of england, so keep trying!
pray about it too, ask God to guide you.
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2011, 04:34:36 PM »

So that fifteen minutes left you wanting more right? 
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2011, 08:16:44 PM »

Are you sure you arrived at the beginning?  Huh

It said something at 5μμ, I will check tomorrow in daylight, but I did think vespers started at 5pm in all Orthodox churches here, maybe I am wrong!  Sad

Something I learned when I lived in Greece, do not believe the signs posted outside the churches. Those are only approximate times. It is best to ask the candle lady.
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 01:45:29 PM »

Vespers can be served in half an hour.

Nothing will surprise me after I heard about 45 min Liturgy.

Surly that was Catholic?

nah...back in the 'old days' when many of us were 'newbies' having arrived in Orthodoxy from Greek Catholicism, there were some priests who could zip through a Liturgy on a Holyday or weekday that fast. No more - although there are some 'faithful' who 'lament' those days!  Wink Wink
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2011, 07:58:00 PM »

maybe it was one of the hours?  Those often take 15 minutes or less.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 09:24:42 AM »

I went back to check in daylight, it said Εσπερινός 5μμ. So it was vespers, but a very short version of it.

I will go back after new year and try and talk with a Priest.

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2012, 09:31:04 AM »

I went to a very old church in the centre of Athens today, where I managed to talk with a priest through a translator.

He has invited me to Vespers tomorrow evening and has said he is getting me a book written by a British Bishop called the Orthodox way.

This will be interesting as the service will be in koine Greek.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2012, 11:30:03 AM »

I went to a very old church in the centre of Athens today, where I managed to talk with a priest through a translator.

He has invited me to Vespers tomorrow evening and has said he is getting me a book written by a British Bishop called the Orthodox way.

This will be interesting as the service will be in koine Greek.

Great book!  It is by Metropolitan Kallistos.

I can recognize only a handful of Greek words, but my experience of Greek services is that if you can set aside the desire to try to figure it out and instead just experience it, you can actually get a lot out of it.
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2012, 11:35:14 AM »

i just finished the orthodox way.
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read it slowly and pray after each chapter as it is very deep.
there is lots of good advice about keeping up an active spiritual life.
i had to keeep putting the book down to pray!
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2012, 12:00:57 PM »

i just finished the orthodox way.
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read it slowly and pray after each chapter as it is very deep.
there is lots of good advice about keeping up an active spiritual life.
i had to keeep putting the book down to pray!

I am looking forward to reading this, I read the reviews on amazon  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2012, 12:23:44 PM »

sorry, i meant 'keep', not 'keeep', my middle finger got too excited thinking about the book!
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2012, 03:18:25 PM »

I went to the Vespers, wow is it different from Vespers in the catholic church.

There was an old lady there at the church, she was talking to me in Greek, so I did not understand every word she said, but we managed a conversation all the same, When I told her it was my first Orthodox service she hugged me tight and kept saying πολύ καλά, in the end she left and the priest came out and came up to me shook my hand and said καλησπέρα with a big grin on his face.

Then the service started, I just sat back and listened as I did not understand a lot of what was being said or why they was doing things they did.

But I really enjoyed the service, the style really reminded me of the old church, I still think this is the way it should be.

I was told there is Vespers tomorrow night for John the Baptist, unfortunately I have a mass of obligation at the same time, so I will probably go on Saturday in stead.

The priest gave me a wrapped up book as a present, it is "The Orthodox Church new edition by Timothy Ware (Bishop Kallistos)" They mustn't of had the Orthodox way, but Very kind of him.

I shall read this with great interest.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2012, 03:45:47 PM »

"The Orthodox Church" is more general and IMHO better for the newbies ;P
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